The Utter defeat of the Radical wing of the GOP.

[Avatar4321]

Actually; not even then. Bush 43 solved a problem we didn't have: surplus, which is what's needed to pay down the debt.

You do realize that the surplus never actually existed, right?

 

[Harry Dresden]

It's the defeat of us all, but it certainly feels good to democrats and that's what counts.

Well no.

The Tea Party has been trying to crater the recovery for quite some time, parrotting the whims of Rush Limbaugh and the "We hope he fails" crowd.

It's becomes evident, well moreso, with the clownish attempt at trying to embrass President Obama.

Instead..it was them that were embrassed. Congress' approval rating is at 9%. In the history of this country, there's never been that sort of approval rating for any part of the government.

did you vote for the same guy as you did before Sallow?...

 

[Koios]

It is when Boehner's Congress votes to pass it. You do realized that all spending by the Executive must be made law by the Congress; yeah?

Just checking.

Pelosi agreed to overspend...

Under bush and Obama.

Yes. But now it's what Boehner is doing.

Oops, with one exception: 2010 (spending decreased to below that of 2009). Then Boehner came to town, and spending went up, percentage wise, over that of the 2 years Obama and Pelosi were running things.

Imagine that. New Tea Party-infused GOP, and spending GOES UP!!! Golly; ain't actual history funny as shit?

 

[Oddball]

BTW I agree that the GOP should be targetting and identifying what they want to cut

Well, they now have another two months to come up with a list.

Bet the tree farm that they're far to gutless to actually do it.

 

[Koios]

Actually; not even then. Bush 43 solved a problem we didn't have: surplus, which is what's needed to pay down the debt.

You do realize that the surplus never actually existed, right?

No. But then, it did, since deficit / surplus is a function of actual revenue v. outlays in a fiscal year. No shit. Google (verb) it.

 

[SniperFire]

Actually; not even then. Bush 43 solved a problem we didn't have: surplus, which is what's needed to pay down the debt.

You do realize that the surplus never actually existed, right?

They know the truth. They just choose not to operate in it.

I mean, they are liberals, afterall.

 

[Avatar4321]

BTW I agree that the GOP should be targetting and identifying what they want to cut

Well, they now have another two months to come up with a list.

Bet the tree farm that they're far to gutless to actually do it.

Even if I gambled, I wouldn't be foolish enough to take that bet. Our leaders lack the character do what is right despite posibilities that it may be unpopular.

Unfortunately, that's because we as a people are unwilling to do what is right despite lack of popularity. We need to fix our culture.

 

[SniperFire]

Actually; not even then. Bush 43 solved a problem we didn't have: surplus, which is what's needed to pay down the debt.

You do realize that the surplus never actually existed, right?

No. But then, it did, since deficit / surplus is a function of actual revenue v. outlays in a fiscal year. No shit. Google (verb) it.

Which year did the revenues exceed outlays and not add to our cumulative debt, then?

 

[Avatar4321]

Actually; not even then. Bush 43 solved a problem we didn't have: surplus, which is what's needed to pay down the debt.

You do realize that the surplus never actually existed, right?

No. But then, it did, since deficit / surplus is a function of actual revenue v. outlays in a fiscal year. No shit. Google (verb) it.

A projected surplus in 10 years that never materializes is not a real surplus.

Oh and a surplus is what we have after debt has been paid. If we have a surplus it means the government isn't paying down the debt with it. It means the government is keeping the money for itself.

 

[bodecea]

He just raised taxes on many of the parents whose children were shot and also on many of the devasted from Sandy. he's so frickin compassionate.

I'm sorry. Are you pretending to care about them? Now?

 

[Koios]

You do realize that the surplus never actually existed, right?

No. But then, it did, since deficit / surplus is a function of actual revenue v. outlays in a fiscal year. No shit. Google (verb) it.

Which year did the revenues exceed outlays and not add to our cumulative debt, then?

1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 (Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary)

 

[Koios]

You do realize that the surplus never actually existed, right?

No. But then, it did, since deficit / surplus is a function of actual revenue v. outlays in a fiscal year. No shit. Google (verb) it.

A projected surplus in 10 years that never materializes is not a real surplus.

Oh and a surplus is what we have after debt has been paid. If we have a surplus it means the government isn't paying down the debt with it. It means the government is keeping the money for itself.

Correct. That's why I look at actual reciepts / outlays.

 

[SniperFire]

No. But then, it did, since deficit / surplus is a function of actual revenue v. outlays in a fiscal year. No shit. Google (verb) it.

Which year did the revenues exceed outlays and not add to our cumulative debt, then?

1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 (Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary)

Nope. Our National debt went up in each of those years.


Surely you can come up with a year in which we paid down on our debt thanks to the surplus we had?


Which year, and give us the exact numbers.

(laughing my ass off)

 

[Harry Dresden]

Watch the Democrats win more seats in Congress?

very good sallow, as long as they win the hell with the people..
sad sad sad

I think the people are looking for another surplus.

Which Clinton was able to accomplish. And without help from Republicans.

Sallow a hell of a lot of the surplus was because of the so called Dot-Com boom and all the money pumped into the Economy......and Clinton had jack shit to do with that.....that was because of the American entrepreneur......

 

[SniperFire]

very good sallow, as long as they win the hell with the people..
sad sad sad

I think the people are looking for another surplus.

Which Clinton was able to accomplish. And without help from Republicans.

Sallow a hell of a lot of the surplus was because of the so called Dot-Com boom and all the money pumped into the Economy......and Clinton had jack shit to do with that.....that was because of the American entrepreneur......

There was no surplus.

It is a lie.

Fiscal
Year Year
Ending National Debt Deficit
FY1993 09/30/1993 $4.411488 trillion
FY1994 09/30/1994 $4.692749 trillion $281.26 billion
FY1995 09/29/1995 $4.973982 trillion $281.23 billion
FY1996 09/30/1996 $5.224810 trillion $250.83 billion
FY1997 09/30/1997 $5.413146 trillion $188.34 billion
FY1998 09/30/1998 $5.526193 trillion $113.05 billion
FY1999 09/30/1999 $5.656270 trillion $130.08 billion
FY2000 09/29/2000 $5.674178 trillion $17.91 billion
FY2001 09/28/2001 $5.807463 trillion $133.29 billion

 

[Koios]

In red:

Which year did the revenues exceed outlays and not add to our cumulative debt, then?

1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 (Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary)

Nope. Our National debt went up in each of those years.

That's different from deficit / surplus. So when you're done laughing, and have better composed yourself, maybe try learning something.

Just a thought (also hope)

Surely you can come up with a year in which we paid down on our debt thanks to the surplus we had?

Throughout the 1950s, and into the 60s.

Which year, and give us the exact numbers.

I've given you the year that, more recently, had surplus, which you've ignored. Thus, before digging them up from post-WWII years, I'd simply ask: why do want them; and will you at least acknowledge them, and maybe even respond?

(laughing my ass off)

Glad to hear it; Nothing better than a good belly laugh.

 

[Koios]

Which year did the revenues exceed outlays and not add to our cumulative debt, then?

1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 (Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary)

Nope. Our National debt went up in each of those years.


Surely you can come up with a year in which we paid down on our debt thanks to the surplus we had?


Which year, and give us the exact numbers.

(laughing my ass off)

Jane you ignorant slut! Deficit/Surplus and Debt are different. You haven't the basest understanding of political economics. So keep laughing. It'll help with your comfortable oblivion of your inpetitude.

 

[SniperFire]

Our National debt went up each and every year under Clinton.

Gingrich bitchslapped him and came close, but we never actually had a surplus.

Facts can be a real mofo to Lefty meme.


LOL


Fiscal
Year Year
Ending National Debt Deficit
FY1993 09/30/1993 $4.411488 trillion
FY1994 09/30/1994 $4.692749 trillion $281.26 billion
FY1995 09/29/1995 $4.973982 trillion $281.23 billion
FY1996 09/30/1996 $5.224810 trillion $250.83 billion
FY1997 09/30/1997 $5.413146 trillion $188.34 billion
FY1998 09/30/1998 $5.526193 trillion $113.05 billion
FY1999 09/30/1999 $5.656270 trillion $130.08 billion
FY2000 09/29/2000 $5.674178 trillion $17.91 billion
FY2001 09/28/2001 $5.807463 trillion $133.29 billion

 

[Koios]

Our National debt went up each and every year under Clinton.

Gingrich bitchslapped him and came close, but we never actually had a surplus.

Facts can be a real mofo to Lefty meme.


LOL


Fiscal
Year Year
Ending National Debt Deficit
FY1993 09/30/1993 $4.411488 trillion
FY1994 09/30/1994 $4.692749 trillion $281.26 billion
FY1995 09/29/1995 $4.973982 trillion $281.23 billion
FY1996 09/30/1996 $5.224810 trillion $250.83 billion
FY1997 09/30/1997 $5.413146 trillion $188.34 billion
FY1998 09/30/1998 $5.526193 trillion $113.05 billion
FY1999 09/30/1999 $5.656270 trillion $130.08 billion
FY2000 09/29/2000 $5.674178 trillion $17.91 billion
FY2001 09/28/2001 $5.807463 trillion $133.29 billion

Maybe try first to employ a concept used in business: cashflow. That's how it works in the federal government (ours) now, since while Reagan was president, with some urging from David Stockman, we no longer fund SS from the trust fund, entirely. It's part of the general fund, in essence, even with some funds still suspended in the "trust" fund, which was where SS checks were drawn funds from, previous to Reagan. But now that obligation is a general fund priority, in essence, since your future SS checks are backed not by the trust fund, but the full faith and credit of the United States of America.

So in that light, and as result of changes under the Reagan Admin, when receipts exceed outlays, as they did from 1998 to 2001, we call that a surplus, due to positive cashflow.

That help?

 

[SniperFire]

Our National debt went up each and every year under Clinton.

Gingrich bitchslapped him and came close, but we never actually had a surplus.

Facts can be a real mofo to Lefty meme.


LOL


Fiscal
Year Year
Ending National Debt Deficit
FY1993 09/30/1993 $4.411488 trillion
FY1994 09/30/1994 $4.692749 trillion $281.26 billion
FY1995 09/29/1995 $4.973982 trillion $281.23 billion
FY1996 09/30/1996 $5.224810 trillion $250.83 billion
FY1997 09/30/1997 $5.413146 trillion $188.34 billion
FY1998 09/30/1998 $5.526193 trillion $113.05 billion
FY1999 09/30/1999 $5.656270 trillion $130.08 billion
FY2000 09/29/2000 $5.674178 trillion $17.91 billion
FY2001 09/28/2001 $5.807463 trillion $133.29 billion

Maybe try first to employ a concept used in business: cashflow. That's how it works in the federal government (ours) now, since while Reagan was president, with some urging from David Stockman, we no longer fund SS from the trust fund, entirely. It's part of the general fund, in essence, even with some funds still suspended in the "trust" fund, which was where SS checks were drawn funds from, previous to Reagan. But now that obligation is a general fund priority, in essence, since your future SS checks are backed not by the trust fund, but the full faith and credit of the United States of America.

So in that light, and as result of changes under the Reagan Admin, when receipts exceed outlays, as they did from 1998 to 2001, we call that a surplus, due to positive cashflow.

That help?

The National debt grew each and every year under Clinton.

There were no surpluses, creative accounting, not withstanding.


Sorry about your luck.