The unimaginable ignorance regarding U.S. government

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    The left still hasn’t figured out that the federal government has three distinctive branches and that all three have vastly different responsibilities. The left truly believes that the President of the United States “controls” the nation much like Saddam Hussein did in Iraq or Fidel Castro did in Cuba.
    Let’s think about this logically for just a second. Since President Trump is in the executive branch, and Paul Ryan is in the legislative branch, President Trump is constitutionally required to “leave legislation to House Speaker Paul Ryan”.

    Until the left is taught the U.S. Constitution, they will continue to perpetuate this type of insanity.

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    I don't think this is at all limited to any political affiliation. Americans in general seem to think of the president as having more power than he does. To be fair, the president does have quite a bit of influential rather than direct power. Still, regardless of party or political leaning, people give presidents more credit and place more blame than their actual power deserves.

    To speak to the specific point in the OP, while the president does not legislate, the president does have influence regarding what legislation is proposed or passed.
     
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    The left ?

    Save your sanctimonious speech for the right wing . Ya know , the ones who constantly act like the judicial branch shouldn’t exist .
     
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    But constitutionally he absolutely shouldn’t. Just because we morphed into this mess doesn’t mean it’s ok.

    The president’s job is to lead the executive branch. Nothing more.
     
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    How do you figure? I’ve never heard a single conservative claim that the judicial branch shouldn’t exist.
     
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    Where does the Constitution say anything about the president not having influence?
     
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    In the part that says legislation is the responsibility of the legislative branch.
     
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    So he’s just a figurehead? I can live with that. I mean, I wish he would stop tweeting, but as long as he isn’t – oh wait. What about all those quiet little executive orders he’s been signing into existence. Where do they fall, within the confines of him being a figurehead.
     
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    The president can influence the legislative branch and still leave the actual legislating up to them. Influence is not the same as having the power of legislation. So no, the Constitution does not say that the president cannot have influence over the legislature.
     
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    can you please show me how you were worried obama was doing this also? or is this only because it's trump now that it's wrong?

    trump so far, 58.
    List of executive actions by Donald Trump - Wikipedia

    obama:
    List of executive actions by Barack Obama - Wikipedia

    now a bulk of trumps are to overturn obama but yes, he's on a fast n furious pace also. *IF* this is being misused by either President then we need to care about the actions being done / abused, not who is doing it and if we like it, it's ok.

    that's how we get into this crap to begin with. my guy can do things your guy can't, neener neener.
     
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