The truth about Truman’s bombing Japan

[Unkotare]

Anyone who would talk about AMERICAN CITIZENS like that ^^^^^^ is NOT a real American, just another scumbag.

Sorry moron, but a third of them were not citizens, and were never going to be, shithead, and the rest were huge fans of their home country's conquests and butchery, had the parades celebrating them, had charities sending their beloved troops care packages, the whole works, and had Japanese in Hawaii helping downed pilots to boot, so the precaution of interning them was completely justified, you sick gimp. Tough shit your parents spent your reparations, because you ain't getting any more.

Illogic, dishonesty and stupidity from the anti-American scumbag - again.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The best American value is that many Americans didn't die in the invasion of Japan.

Yeah...mass murder civilians of a defenseless nation ready to surrender, based on inaccurate information.

Ike said don’t drop those bombs. Admiral Leahy said don’t drop those bombs.

Japan's Government REFUSED to surrender even after 2 atomic Bombs and then when the Emperor intervened and ordered the surrender the Army tried a Coup to stop that. This bullshit claim that Japan was ready to surrender is simply a LIE, a poorly done lie easily shown to be a lie and yet you RETARDS keep claiming it.

 

[fncceo]

As for the 'separate peace' speculation, that wasn't going to happen,

Of course, it's only speculation. But, if Truman hadn't had a nuclear option, and was facing another five years of Pacific War with increasing American casualties, I don't believe he could have sold it.

My opinion.

 

[fncceo]

Anyone who would talk about AMERICAN CITIZENS like that ^^^^^^ is NOT a real American, just another scumbag.

Sorry moron, but a third of them were not citizens, and were never going to be, shithead, and the rest were huge fans of their home country's conquests and butchery, had the parades celebrating them, had charities sending their beloved troops care packages, the whole works, and had Japanese in Hawaii helping downed pilots to boot, so the precaution of interning them was completely justified, you sick gimp. Tough shit your parents spent your reparations, because you ain't getting any more.

Make yourself familiar with the German American Bund in pre-war America.

German American Bund - Wikipedia

 

[Picaro]

Anyone who would talk about AMERICAN CITIZENS like that ^^^^^^ is NOT a real American, just another scumbag.

Sorry moron, but a third of them were not citizens, and were never going to be, shithead, and the rest were huge fans of their home country's conquests and butchery, had the parades celebrating them, had charities sending their beloved troops care packages, the whole works, and had Japanese in Hawaii helping downed pilots to boot, so the precaution of interning them was completely justified, you sick gimp. Tough shit your parents spent your reparations, because you ain't getting any more.

Make yourself familiar with the German American Bund in pre-war America.

German American Bund - Wikipedia

I am familiar with them; we interned Germans and Italians as well, in both wars. My grandfather hired them from the Feds to work on the family farm during the war. m,any were released, the same as the Japanese were. They only interned those Japanese on the West Coast,, anyway, and given the war they were a lot safer interned; their fellow Asians were attacking them in the streets, especially Fillipinos. in California. Japanese in the Midwest and east coast weren't affected.

While Americans were 'tired of the war', what they wanted was a quicker ending, not peace treaties; they wanted them wiped out and thought our leaders were somehow dragging their feet or something, which wasn't true. They wouldn't have tolerated anything short of total victory.

Don't know what needed to be 'sold'; before the bombs, everyone was resigned to having to invade the Japanese home islands. My father was there in the Philippines, airborne, and they all knew they were going in and would probably take heavy casualties. nobody was predicting anything like 5 more years, that I know of.

 

[Picaro]

Anyone who would talk about AMERICAN CITIZENS like that ^^^^^^ is NOT a real American, just another scumbag.

Sorry moron, but a third of them were not citizens, and were never going to be, shithead, and the rest were huge fans of their home country's conquests and butchery, had the parades celebrating them, had charities sending their beloved troops care packages, the whole works, and had Japanese in Hawaii helping downed pilots to boot, so the precaution of interning them was completely justified, you sick gimp. Tough shit your parents spent your reparations, because you ain't getting any more.

Make yourself familiar with the German American Bund in pre-war America.

German American Bund - Wikipedia

I am familiar with them; we interned Germans and Italians as well, in both wars. My grandfather hired them from the Feds to work on the family farm during the war. m,any were released, the same as the Japanese were. They only interned those Japanese on the West Coast,, anyway, and given the war they were a lot safer interned; their fellow Asians were attacking them in the streets, especially Fillipinos. in California. Japanese in the Midwest and east coast weren't affected.

While Americans were 'tired of the war', what they wanted was a quicker ending, not peace treaties; they wanted them wiped out and thought our leaders were somehow dragging their feet or something, which wasn't true. They wouldn't have tolerated anything short of total victory.

Don't know what needed to be 'sold'; before the bombs, everyone was resigned to having to invade the Japanese home islands. My father was there in the Philippines, airborne, and they all knew they were going in and would probably take heavy casualties. nobody was predicting anything like 5 more years, that I know of.

I'll add that German and Italian Americans also had no qualms about reporting Nazi and fascist sympathizers either, while the Japanese didn't even report the Japanese agents sent over before Pearl to recruit saboteurs among the Jap communities here, another reason they weren't trusted. That ans other facts played a role, like the Niheiu incident made the first decisions viable. No time during wartime emergencies to play tag with the ACLU commies and all that handwringing rubbish, and rightfully so.

 

[Markle]

The best American value is that many Americans didn't die in the invasion of Japan.

Yeah...mass murder civilians of a defenseless nation ready to surrender, based on inaccurate information.

Ike said don’t drop those bombs. Admiral Leahy said don’t drop those bombs.

They were no where close to surrender

Wrong

You're being foolish.

Why do you throw up such nonsense when even you know better?

Days after the bomb dropped on Nagasaki, their six-person board or whatever it was called, were divided 3 to 3. The Emperor (God) himself had to cast the deciding vote. Thousands of military and civilians either continued to fight or committed suicide.

 

[Aponi]

The best American value is that many Americans didn't die in the invasion of Japan.

Yeah...mass murder civilians of a defenseless nation ready to surrender, based on inaccurate information.

Ike said don’t drop those bombs. Admiral Leahy said don’t drop those bombs.

Japan's Government REFUSED to surrender even after 2 atomic Bombs and then when the Emperor intervened and ordered the surrender the Army tried a Coup to stop that. This bullshit claim that Japan was ready to surrender is simply a LIE, a poorly done lie easily shown to be a lie and yet you RETARDS keep claiming it.

Agreed even knowing we had the bomb after dropping the first they refused to surrender.

 

[Unkotare]

The best American value is that many Americans didn't die in the invasion of Japan.

Yeah...mass murder civilians of a defenseless nation ready to surrender, based on inaccurate information.

Ike said don’t drop those bombs. Admiral Leahy said don’t drop those bombs.

Japan's Government REFUSED to surrender even after 2 atomic Bombs and then when the Emperor intervened and ordered the surrender the Army tried a Coup to stop that. This bullshit claim that Japan was ready to surrender is simply a LIE, a poorly done lie easily shown to be a lie and yet you RETARDS keep claiming it.

What was General MacArthur’s motivation for lying about it? You are full of shit.

 

[harmonica]

Americans need to come to the realization that the bombings of civilians was really mass murder, not unlike what Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan were guilty of.

Great column on the subject.

Actually, it was just another weapon in war that had seen so many of them built and used.

Most of this Angst after the war came when both the US and USSR built enough bombs to end civilization, and then we got all worked up about it.

I've said this before. The Japanese Empire was the most fanatical enemy the US has ever faced. They make ISIS look like Care Bears. In just over three years, Japan threw 5,000 suicide attacks at Allied forces. They engaged in chemical and biological warfare. They executed Allied prisoners of war and starved thousands more to death.

The application to two, rather small, nuclear devices, killing 170,000 persons, quickly changed Japan from a fanatical, fascist state to pacifist capitalists.

As weapons of war go, this has to be one of the most efficient ever created and quite effective when used on a small scale.

Is that a justification for mass murdering thousands of defenseless women and children?

Think before posting.

learn some history before making yourself look stupid

And you?

and me what??
I know WW2 history more than you/etc!
it's right there in my post--CANNOT be denied or argued
I have MORE than proved my point

 

[harmonica]

The best American value is that many Americans didn't die in the invasion of Japan.

Yeah...mass murder civilians of a defenseless nation ready to surrender, based on inaccurate information.

Ike said don’t drop those bombs. Admiral Leahy said don’t drop those bombs.

Japan's Government REFUSED to surrender even after 2 atomic Bombs and then when the Emperor intervened and ordered the surrender the Army tried a Coup to stop that. This bullshit claim that Japan was ready to surrender is simply a LIE, a poorly done lie easily shown to be a lie and yet you RETARDS keep claiming it.

whoever thinks Japan was ready to surrender obviously has no knowledge of WW2

 

[Unkotare]

The best American value is that many Americans didn't die in the invasion of Japan.

Yeah...mass murder civilians of a defenseless nation ready to surrender, based on inaccurate information.

Ike said don’t drop those bombs. Admiral Leahy said don’t drop those bombs.

Japan's Government REFUSED to surrender even after 2 atomic Bombs and then when the Emperor intervened and ordered the surrender the Army tried a Coup to stop that. This bullshit claim that Japan was ready to surrender is simply a LIE, a poorly done lie easily shown to be a lie and yet you RETARDS keep claiming it.

whoever thinks Japan was ready to surrender obviously has no knowledge of WW2

Like General MacArthur?

 

[gipper]

The best American value is that many Americans didn't die in the invasion of Japan.

Yeah...mass murder civilians of a defenseless nation ready to surrender, based on inaccurate information.

Ike said don’t drop those bombs. Admiral Leahy said don’t drop those bombs.

Japan's Government REFUSED to surrender even after 2 atomic Bombs and then when the Emperor intervened and ordered the surrender the Army tried a Coup to stop that. This bullshit claim that Japan was ready to surrender is simply a LIE, a poorly done lie easily shown to be a lie and yet you RETARDS keep claiming it.

whoever thinks Japan was ready to surrender obviously has no knowledge of WW2

You are merely a typical uninformed propagandized American. Sadly, there are too many like you.

72nd Anniversary of Hiroshima’s Gratuitous Mass Murder
By Stephen Lendman

StephenLendman.org

August 8, 2017you are not informed. T

The best American value is that many Americans didn't die in the invasion of Japan.

Yeah...mass murder civilians of a defenseless nation ready to surrender, based on inaccurate information.

Ike said don’t drop those bombs. Admiral Leahy said don’t drop those bombs.

Japan's Government REFUSED to surrender even after 2 atomic Bombs and then when the Emperor intervened and ordered the surrender the Army tried a Coup to stop that. This bullshit claim that Japan was ready to surrender is simply a LIE, a poorly done lie easily shown to be a lie and yet you RETARDS keep claiming it.

You are not informed. Please cease and desist from posting in my thread.

The Japanese tried to surrender several times. FDR and Truman ignored them. FDR’s tyrannical unjust and terribly deadly dictate of UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER, lead to the unnecessary deaths of thousands of Americans and Japanese.

For this, FDR and Truman should burn in Hell for eternity.

 

[gipper]

The best American value is that many Americans didn't die in the invasion of Japan.

Yeah...mass murder civilians of a defenseless nation ready to surrender, based on inaccurate information.

Ike said don’t drop those bombs. Admiral Leahy said don’t drop those bombs.

Japan's Government REFUSED to surrender even after 2 atomic Bombs and then when the Emperor intervened and ordered the surrender the Army tried a Coup to stop that. This bullshit claim that Japan was ready to surrender is simply a LIE, a poorly done lie easily shown to be a lie and yet you RETARDS keep claiming it.

whoever thinks Japan was ready to surrender obviously has no knowledge of WW2

Get informed. Then you won’t be a dumb fucker anymore. If you refuse to learn, you will be banned.

Hiroshima’s Gratuitous Mass Murder - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

 

[rightwinger]

The best American value is that many Americans didn't die in the invasion of Japan.

Very true

But why did we bomb the way we did?
Why TWO civilian targets?

Why not a demonstration on an uninhabited target with a warning the next would be on Tokyo?

Why was Nagasaki necessary? Why was it dropped so soon without allowing time for negotiations after Hiroshima?

 

[Unkotare]

What some willful idiots fail to grasp is that there were obviously different voices in Japan’s wartime government. Some of the more level-headed were looking for ways to negotiate a surrender, but fdr dropped the ball and strengthened the hardliners, while screwing those in the government and among the public who had grown to oppose the war and sought to find a way out.

But at least Truman got to kill hundreds of thousands more civilians.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The best American value is that many Americans didn't die in the invasion of Japan.

Yeah...mass murder civilians of a defenseless nation ready to surrender, based on inaccurate information.

Ike said don’t drop those bombs. Admiral Leahy said don’t drop those bombs.

Japan's Government REFUSED to surrender even after 2 atomic Bombs and then when the Emperor intervened and ordered the surrender the Army tried a Coup to stop that. This bullshit claim that Japan was ready to surrender is simply a LIE, a poorly done lie easily shown to be a lie and yet you RETARDS keep claiming it.

whoever thinks Japan was ready to surrender obviously has no knowledge of WW2

You are merely a typical uninformed propagandized American. Sadly, there are too many like you.

72nd Anniversary of Hiroshima’s Gratuitous Mass Murder
By Stephen Lendman

StephenLendman.org

August 8, 2017you are not informed. T

The best American value is that many Americans didn't die in the invasion of Japan.

Yeah...mass murder civilians of a defenseless nation ready to surrender, based on inaccurate information.

Ike said don’t drop those bombs. Admiral Leahy said don’t drop those bombs.

Japan's Government REFUSED to surrender even after 2 atomic Bombs and then when the Emperor intervened and ordered the surrender the Army tried a Coup to stop that. This bullshit claim that Japan was ready to surrender is simply a LIE, a poorly done lie easily shown to be a lie and yet you RETARDS keep claiming it.

You are not informed. Please cease and desist from posting in my thread.

The Japanese tried to surrender several times. FDR and Truman ignored them. FDR’s tyrannical unjust and terribly deadly dictate of UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER, lead to the unnecessary deaths of thousands of Americans and Japanese.

For this, FDR and Truman should burn in Hell for eternity.

I have linked numerous times to SOURCE documents that PROVE your tripe is wrong.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The best American value is that many Americans didn't die in the invasion of Japan.

Very true

But why did we bomb the way we did?
Why TWO civilian targets?

Why not a demonstration on an uninhabited target with a warning the next would be on Tokyo?

Why was Nagasaki necessary? Why was it dropped so soon without allowing time for negotiations after Hiroshima?

LOL after 2 cities were destroyed the Japanese Government still refused to surrender, explain in detail what bombing a non military target would have done to convince them when 2 cites were not enough dumb ass. And the cites were war producing cities AND BOTH were Army Headquarters organizing the local areas into fighting the coming Invasion. NOT civilian targets at all.

 

[Unkotare]

The best American value is that many Americans didn't die in the invasion of Japan.

Yeah...mass murder civilians of a defenseless nation ready to surrender, based on inaccurate information.

Ike said don’t drop those bombs. Admiral Leahy said don’t drop those bombs.

Japan's Government REFUSED to surrender even after 2 atomic Bombs and then when the Emperor intervened and ordered the surrender the Army tried a Coup to stop that. This bullshit claim that Japan was ready to surrender is simply a LIE, a poorly done lie easily shown to be a lie and yet you RETARDS keep claiming it.

whoever thinks Japan was ready to surrender obviously has no knowledge of WW2

You are merely a typical uninformed propagandized American. Sadly, there are too many like you.

72nd Anniversary of Hiroshima’s Gratuitous Mass Murder
By Stephen Lendman

StephenLendman.org

August 8, 2017you are not informed. T

The best American value is that many Americans didn't die in the invasion of Japan.

Yeah...mass murder civilians of a defenseless nation ready to surrender, based on inaccurate information.

Ike said don’t drop those bombs. Admiral Leahy said don’t drop those bombs.

Japan's Government REFUSED to surrender even after 2 atomic Bombs and then when the Emperor intervened and ordered the surrender the Army tried a Coup to stop that. This bullshit claim that Japan was ready to surrender is simply a LIE, a poorly done lie easily shown to be a lie and yet you RETARDS keep claiming it.

You are not informed. Please cease and desist from posting in my thread.

The Japanese tried to surrender several times. FDR and Truman ignored them. FDR’s tyrannical unjust and terribly deadly dictate of UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER, lead to the unnecessary deaths of thousands of Americans and Japanese.

For this, FDR and Truman should burn in Hell for eternity.

I have linked numerous times to SOURCE documents that PROVE your tripe is wrong.

And you still don’t understand it. What a dope.

 

[Unkotare]

The best American value is that many Americans didn't die in the invasion of Japan.

Very true

But why did we bomb the way we did?
Why TWO civilian targets?

Why not a demonstration on an uninhabited target with a warning the next would be on Tokyo?

Why was Nagasaki necessary? Why was it dropped so soon without allowing time for negotiations after Hiroshima?

LOL after 2 cities were destroyed the Japanese Government still refused to surrender, explain in detail what bombing a non military target would have done to convince them when 2 cites were not enough dumb ass. And the cites were war producing cities AND BOTH were Army Headquarters organizing the local areas into fighting the coming Invasion. NOT civilian targets at all.

I guess those hundreds of thousands of civilians just happened to be there for a tour of the military installations, huh? Idiot.