Ernie S.
Diamond Member
tax food stamps.
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The Times admits taxing the rich is not enough and calls for higher taxes for everyone.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/07/opinion/sunday/the-truth-about-taxes.html
flat tax for ALL! Rich. poor, corporation or what ever..... no exemptions, no loop holes.
I don't give a shit if you make $1 a year.... the government is going to take its cut.... what ever that % is.
Part of the problem is that 50% of the people in this country pay not one dime in federal tax... but its that same 50% that put their hand out for MORE.
Were you in favor or letting the Bush tax cuts expire? Funny because people love to rail against those who are in that 50% who "pay nothing" yet they were the strongest supporters of extending the tax cuts for them. Odd how that works.
The first thing that needs to be done ... For example tax breaks for companies to offshore jobs.
The first thing that needs to be done is do away with loopholes that are contrary to US growth and stability.
For example tax breaks for companies to offshore jobs.
Why exempt the first 30k?The only person who said that is you.
You're full of shit.
Conservatives here at USMB won't state ONE sacrifice that the Rich should make among the sacrifices that need to be made to straighten out the fiscal mess.
The question has been asked in the past.
Why do you have such difficulty treating everyone equally? All people should pay the same percentage. Exempt the first 30k.
Where is the logic in saying that because taxing the rich can't fix the entire problem, therefore the rich should be exempted from helping fix any part of the problem?
The only person who said that is you.
You're full of shit.
Conservatives here at USMB won't state ONE sacrifice that the Rich should make among the sacrifices that need to be made to straighten out the fiscal mess.
The question has been asked in the past.
The Times admits taxing the rich is not enough and calls for higher taxes for everyone.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/07/opinion/sunday/the-truth-about-taxes.htmlA week later and we are still amazed at how the Republicans in Congress pulled it off. They held the economy hostage, won some cheap political points, and all of us will spend the next decade paying the ransom as government programs $900 billion over 10 years in the first round are slashed and the recovery is put at risk. The only glimmer of hope is that the battle is not completely over if President Obama is finally willing to fight.
Under the terms of the ill-conceived debt agreement, Congress has to propose another $1.5 trillion in deficit reduction measures by December. Just to ensure that rationality does not have a chance, Republican leaders said they would not put anyone on the deficit-cutting super-committee who might entertain the idea of raising taxes.
A week later and we are even more amazed by the failure of Mr. Obama and the Democratic leadership to stand up to this intransigence. If they do not start pushing back, with the same ferocity, the results will be disastrous.
LET THE BUSH CUTS EXPIRE
MAKE REAL REFORMS
TARGET TAX BREAKS AND LOWER RATES
OTHER TAXES
So let's get this straight. You're now in favor of letting the Bush tax cuts expire?
Why exempt the first 30k?You're full of shit.
Conservatives here at USMB won't state ONE sacrifice that the Rich should make among the sacrifices that need to be made to straighten out the fiscal mess.
The question has been asked in the past.
Why do you have such difficulty treating everyone equally? All people should pay the same percentage. Exempt the first 30k.
Tax all income equally. No deductions, etc.
Think of how much re could reduce the IRS headcount. smaller govt.
Filing would consist of verifying all your income was reported or reporting the extra income and paying the taxes on it.
Where is the logic in saying that because taxing the rich can't fix the entire problem, therefore the rich should be exempted from helping fix any part of the problem?
The only person who said that is you.
It's called an inference, and I agree with his assesment. You and your kind want to tax those who net less than $30,000 a year, yet protect those who net $250,000 a year, and you call that a fair tax. Every bit of extra revenue, yes taxes, helps, but not if doing so puts the working poor on supplemental aid paid for by the states.
The Times admits taxing the rich is not enough and calls for higher taxes for everyone.
A week later and we are still amazed at how the Republicans in Congress pulled it off. They held the economy hostage, won some cheap political points, and all of us will spend the next decade paying the ransom as government programs — $900 billion over 10 years in the first round — are slashed and the recovery is put at risk. The only glimmer of hope is that the battle is not completely over — if President Obama is finally willing to fight.
Under the terms of the ill-conceived debt agreement, Congress has to propose another $1.5 trillion in deficit reduction measures by December. Just to ensure that rationality does not have a chance, Republican leaders said they would not put anyone on the deficit-cutting “super-committee” who might entertain the idea of raising taxes.
A week later and we are even more amazed by the failure of Mr. Obama and the Democratic leadership to stand up to this intransigence. If they do not start pushing back, with the same ferocity, the results will be disastrous.
LET THE BUSH CUTS EXPIRE
MAKE REAL REFORMS
TARGET TAX BREAKS AND LOWER RATES
OTHER TAXES
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/07/opinion/sunday/the-truth-about-taxes.html
Let'em all expire. Are we serious about fixing this problem? Or only to the extent that "someone else" pays for it?
Where is the logic in saying that because taxing the rich can't fix the entire problem, therefore the rich should be exempted from helping fix any part of the problem?
The only person who said that is you.
You're full of shit.
Conservatives here at USMB won't state ONE sacrifice that the Rich should make among the sacrifices that need to be made to straighten out the fiscal mess.
The question has been asked in the past.
The only person who said that is you.
It's called an inference, and I agree with his assesment. You and your kind want to tax those who net less than $30,000 a year, yet protect those who net $250,000 a year, and you call that a fair tax. Every bit of extra revenue, yes taxes, helps, but not if doing so puts the working poor on supplemental aid paid for by the states.
He's denying that anyone here has ever said that taxing the rich is not the answer because even if you took all their money it wouldn't balance the budget.
That has only been said here, in various ways, about a zillion times.
The Times admits taxing the rich is not enough and calls for higher taxes for everyone.
A week later and we are still amazed at how the Republicans in Congress pulled it off. They held the economy hostage, won some cheap political points, and all of us will spend the next decade paying the ransom as government programs $900 billion over 10 years in the first round are slashed and the recovery is put at risk. The only glimmer of hope is that the battle is not completely over if President Obama is finally willing to fight.
Under the terms of the ill-conceived debt agreement, Congress has to propose another $1.5 trillion in deficit reduction measures by December. Just to ensure that rationality does not have a chance, Republican leaders said they would not put anyone on the deficit-cutting super-committee who might entertain the idea of raising taxes.
A week later and we are even more amazed by the failure of Mr. Obama and the Democratic leadership to stand up to this intransigence. If they do not start pushing back, with the same ferocity, the results will be disastrous.
LET THE BUSH CUTS EXPIRE
MAKE REAL REFORMS
TARGET TAX BREAKS AND LOWER RATES
OTHER TAXES
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/07/opinion/sunday/the-truth-about-taxes.html
The Times admits taxing the rich is not enough and calls for higher taxes for everyone.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/07/opinion/sunday/the-truth-about-taxes.html
Let'em all expire. Are we serious about fixing this problem? Or only to the extent that "someone else" pays for it?
Who do you mean when you say "we"?
If you are talking about the people then I would say for the most part we are serious. If you are talking about the people whom we put in power, I would have to laugh at anyone that actually thought either party gave a shit about the debt issue or the downgrade.
Immie
The only person who said that is you.
You're full of shit.
Conservatives here at USMB won't state ONE sacrifice that the Rich should make among the sacrifices that need to be made to straighten out the fiscal mess.
The question has been asked in the past.
Why do you have such difficulty treating everyone equally? All people should pay the same percentage. Exempt the first 30k.
The Times admits taxing the rich is not enough and calls for higher taxes for everyone.
A week later and we are still amazed at how the Republicans in Congress pulled it off. They held the economy hostage, won some cheap political points, and all of us will spend the next decade paying the ransom as government programs $900 billion over 10 years in the first round are slashed and the recovery is put at risk. The only glimmer of hope is that the battle is not completely over if President Obama is finally willing to fight.
Under the terms of the ill-conceived debt agreement, Congress has to propose another $1.5 trillion in deficit reduction measures by December. Just to ensure that rationality does not have a chance, Republican leaders said they would not put anyone on the deficit-cutting super-committee who might entertain the idea of raising taxes.
A week later and we are even more amazed by the failure of Mr. Obama and the Democratic leadership to stand up to this intransigence. If they do not start pushing back, with the same ferocity, the results will be disastrous.
LET THE BUSH CUTS EXPIRE
MAKE REAL REFORMS
TARGET TAX BREAKS AND LOWER RATES
OTHER TAXES
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/07/opinion/sunday/the-truth-about-taxes.html
My God, you people are so dense you couldn't survive in the real world. If you don't recognize that republicans forced Barry to come to grips with spending you might as well surf with the sharks.
I'd be more in favor of implementing protectionist trade policies that make it more profitable to operate within the US than to export into the US. If you create jobs and expand the taxpayer base, you can reduce corporate taxes. The US is the world's greatest consumer, leverage that fact to force corporations to make an opportunity cost valuation and choose between the sales revenue generated via operating within the US or the reduction of operational expense overseas. There will be bidding wars for US commercial real estate.
The Times admits taxing the rich is not enough and calls for higher taxes for everyone.
A week later and we are still amazed at how the Republicans in Congress pulled it off. They held the economy hostage, won some cheap political points, and all of us will spend the next decade paying the ransom as government programs $900 billion over 10 years in the first round are slashed and the recovery is put at risk. The only glimmer of hope is that the battle is not completely over if President Obama is finally willing to fight.
Under the terms of the ill-conceived debt agreement, Congress has to propose another $1.5 trillion in deficit reduction measures by December. Just to ensure that rationality does not have a chance, Republican leaders said they would not put anyone on the deficit-cutting super-committee who might entertain the idea of raising taxes.
A week later and we are even more amazed by the failure of Mr. Obama and the Democratic leadership to stand up to this intransigence. If they do not start pushing back, with the same ferocity, the results will be disastrous.
LET THE BUSH CUTS EXPIRE
MAKE REAL REFORMS
TARGET TAX BREAKS AND LOWER RATES
OTHER TAXES
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/07/opinion/sunday/the-truth-about-taxes.html
flat tax for ALL! Rich. poor, corporation or what ever..... no exemptions, no loop holes.
I don't give a shit if you make $1 a year.... the government is going to take its cut.... what ever that % is.
Part of the problem is that 50% of the people in this country pay not one dime in federal tax... but its that same 50% that put their hand out for MORE.
Let'em all expire. Are we serious about fixing this problem? Or only to the extent that "someone else" pays for it?
Who do you mean when you say "we"?
If you are talking about the people then I would say for the most part we are serious. If you are talking about the people whom we put in power, I would have to laugh at anyone that actually thought either party gave a shit about the debt issue or the downgrade.
Immie
IMO any politician is terrified to propose tax increases, no matter how drastically and obviously necessary they are. In today's climate they'd be run out of town with torches and pitchforks.
Part of the problem is that 50% of the people in this country pay not one dime in federal tax... but its that same 50% that put their hand out for MORE.
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