The Truth About 'Net Neutrality'

[OnePercenter]

You mean a Republican appointed judge returning the favor.

 

[Sunni Man]

 

[Steinlight]

The only people I see supporting net neutrality are nerds who think their garbage traffic(like torrenting their anime and dr.who all day) should be treated equally to worthwhile traffic and major companies like Google who want to further corner the market. Opposing nerds and giant megacorps is reason enough in my mind for any decent american to oppose this.

 

[longknife]

I don't know why I even bother to post this stuff - the socialists will get out their scripted responses to flood the thread with their garbage.

“Net Neutrality” is Anything But

I know I'm writing against the spammers bent on supporting this attack on more of our freedoms, but someone has to. Any surprises that this claims that Soros is behind it? Not me.


Read the full story WITH LINKS @ Net Neutrality is Anything But The Foxhole

 

[OnePercenter]

There is no free market you idiot, it's a fixed market.

 

[OnePercenter]

The only people I see supporting net neutrality are nerds who think their garbage traffic(like torrenting their anime and dr.who all day) should be treated equally to worthwhile traffic and major companies like Google who want to further corner the market. Opposing nerds and giant megacorps is reason enough in my mind for any decent american to oppose this.

What about ISP profiteering?

 

[OnePercenter]

I don't know why I even bother to post this stuff - the socialists will get out their scripted responses to flood the thread with their garbage.

It eliminates profiteering by ISP's. PERIOD!

 

[Care4all]

Absolutely amazing that a 332 page bill could be passed in total secrecy. Both Democrats and Republicans should be up in arms that a bill is not made public.
How can anyone be for it it they do not know what is in it? This is a nightmare for anyone that loves the freedom now on the internet.

FYI- It's not a Bill, and the FCC HAS NEVER posted any rules to any regulations until the regulation has passed, and then it is released within a week of so from passage.

the FCC did post their ideas on net neutrality, as the agency is suppose to do with the public, and they got over 4 MILLION comments and responses from the public.

So this implication that the FCC was doing something wrong or different or out of the ordinairy by not having the rules posted on line before the regulations even passed is SIMPLY A LIE perpetrated by those who are against net neutrality, but falls short on truth....the truth is, f the FCC posted the rules before the regulation was even passed, it would have been ABNORMAL.

 

[Steinlight]

The only people I see supporting net neutrality are nerds who think their garbage traffic(like torrenting their anime and dr.who all day) should be treated equally to worthwhile traffic and major companies like Google who want to further corner the market. Opposing nerds and giant megacorps is reason enough in my mind for any decent american to oppose this.

What about ISP profiteering?

Nothing wrong with ISPs making a profit. What I have a problem with is monopolization of ISPs, which is essentially what net neutrality does. Only large corporations will be able to afford treating all data equally and it will create a barrier to entry essentially for smaller ISPs.

 

[Care4all]

The only people I see supporting net neutrality are nerds who think their garbage traffic(like torrenting their anime and dr.who all day) should be treated equally to worthwhile traffic and major companies like Google who want to further corner the market. Opposing nerds and giant megacorps is reason enough in my mind for any decent american to oppose this.

What about ISP profiteering?

Nothing wrong with ISPs making a profit. What I have a problem with is monopolization of ISPs, which is essentially what net neutrality does. Only large corporations will be able to afford treating all data equally and it will create a barrier to entry essentially for smaller ISPs.

could you please explain how net neutrality does what you are saying it will do?

 

[Skylar]

Absolutely amazing that a 332 page bill could be passed in total secrecy. Both Democrats and Republicans should be up in arms that a bill is not made public.
How can anyone be for it it they do not know what is in it? This is a nightmare for anyone that loves the freedom now on the internet.

Why is it a 'nightmare'? What restriction to your freedom are you lamenting? What has been taken away from you?

Specifically.

 

[Skylar]

The only people I see supporting net neutrality are nerds who think their garbage traffic(like torrenting their anime and dr.who all day) should be treated equally to worthwhile traffic and major companies like Google who want to further corner the market. Opposing nerds and giant megacorps is reason enough in my mind for any decent american to oppose this.

What about ISP profiteering?

Nothing wrong with ISPs making a profit. What I have a problem with is monopolization of ISPs, which is essentially what net neutrality does. Only large corporations will be able to afford treating all data equally and it will create a barrier to entry essentially for smaller ISPs.

How does Net Neutrality monopoloze ISPs or create barriers for smaller ISPs?

Specifically.

 

[Desperado]

Absolutely amazing that a 332 page bill could be passed in total secrecy. Both Democrats and Republicans should be up in arms that a bill is not made public.
How can anyone be for it it they do not know what is in it? This is a nightmare for anyone that loves the freedom now on the internet.

Why is it a 'nightmare'? What restriction to your freedom are you lamenting? What has been taken away from you?

Specifically.

That is just the point! The specific have not been made public yet.

 

[Skylar]

Absolutely amazing that a 332 page bill could be passed in total secrecy. Both Democrats and Republicans should be up in arms that a bill is not made public.
How can anyone be for it it they do not know what is in it? This is a nightmare for anyone that loves the freedom now on the internet.

Unfortunately, it's Democrats and Republicans who are working in unison to steal more of our freedom. It's what they do -- it's why they're called "lawmakers."

What freedom has been taken from you?

I see lots and lots of really vague platitudes to freedom, 'outrage' at the loss of it, and condemnation of net neutrality. All surprsingly similiar and suprisingly vague. But when I ask WHICH freedoms were lost, what was taken....

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Its just crickets.

 

[Skylar]

Absolutely amazing that a 332 page bill could be passed in total secrecy. Both Democrats and Republicans should be up in arms that a bill is not made public.
How can anyone be for it it they do not know what is in it? This is a nightmare for anyone that loves the freedom now on the internet.

Why is it a 'nightmare'? What restriction to your freedom are you lamenting? What has been taken away from you?

Specifically.

That is just the point! The specific have not been made public yet.

Then how can you complain about the loss of freedom when you don't know what the regulation is?

You're shitting yourself on cue. Not because anything has been taken from you. Not because you've lost any freedom. But because you were told to.

 

[Desperado]

Absolutely amazing that a 332 page bill could be passed in total secrecy. Both Democrats and Republicans should be up in arms that a bill is not made public.
How can anyone be for it it they do not know what is in it? This is a nightmare for anyone that loves the freedom now on the internet.

Unfortunately, it's Democrats and Republicans who are working in unison to steal more of our freedom. It's what they do -- it's why they're called "lawmakers."

What freedom has been taken from you?

I see lots and lots of really vague platitudes to freedom, 'outrage' at the loss of it, and condemnation of net neutrality. All surprsingly similiar and suprisingly vague. But when I ask WHICH freedoms were lost, what was taken....

I firmly believe that no law, regulation or bill should be adopted in secrecy and the specifics not made public until after it is adopted.

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Its just crickets.

Again the regulations have not been made public....

 

[Skylar]

The only people I see supporting net neutrality are nerds who think their garbage traffic(like torrenting their anime and dr.who all day) should be treated equally to worthwhile traffic and major companies like Google who want to further corner the market. Opposing nerds and giant megacorps is reason enough in my mind for any decent american to oppose this.

Yeah, I'm still stuck on your claim that net neutrality monopolizes ISPs and is a barriers to smaller ones.

How does that work exactly? Or is it just another bizarre polemic against 'nerds'.

 

[Skylar]

Absolutely amazing that a 332 page bill could be passed in total secrecy. Both Democrats and Republicans should be up in arms that a bill is not made public.
How can anyone be for it it they do not know what is in it? This is a nightmare for anyone that loves the freedom now on the internet.

Unfortunately, it's Democrats and Republicans who are working in unison to steal more of our freedom. It's what they do -- it's why they're called "lawmakers."

What freedom has been taken from you?

I see lots and lots of really vague platitudes to freedom, 'outrage' at the loss of it, and condemnation of net neutrality. All surprsingly similiar and suprisingly vague. But when I ask WHICH freedoms were lost, what was taken....

........

.......

....

..

Its just crickets.

Again the regulations have not been made public....

Again, how can you rail against the loss of freedom when you haven't seen the regulation? Its simple: either the regulation is your source on your 'loss of freedom', or you are. And since you haven't seen the regulation, then you're just citing yourself on your 'loss of freedom'.

Not the regulation.

You can't even *describe* what freedoms you've lost. Let alone factually establish that they were lost.

 

[Desperado]

Absolutely amazing that a 332 page bill could be passed in total secrecy. Both Democrats and Republicans should be up in arms that a bill is not made public.
How can anyone be for it it they do not know what is in it? This is a nightmare for anyone that loves the freedom now on the internet.

Unfortunately, it's Democrats and Republicans who are working in unison to steal more of our freedom. It's what they do -- it's why they're called "lawmakers."

What freedom has been taken from you?

I see lots and lots of really vague platitudes to freedom, 'outrage' at the loss of it, and condemnation of net neutrality. All surprsingly similiar and suprisingly vague. But when I ask WHICH freedoms were lost, what was taken....

........

.......

....

..

Its just crickets.

Again the regulations have not been made public....

Again, how can you rail against the loss of freedom when you haven't seen the regulation? Its simple: either the regulation is your source on your 'loss of freedom', or you are. And since you haven't seen the regulation, then you're just citing yourself on your 'loss of freedom'.

Not the regulation.

You can't even *describe* what freedoms you've lost. Let alone factually establish that they were lost.

And since you haven't seen the regulation, then you're just blowing smoke that there is no loss of freedom.
At this point the regulations have been passed and we have to wait til the FCC publishes them to seem what is in them.

 

[Skylar]

Absolutely amazing that a 332 page bill could be passed in total secrecy. Both Democrats and Republicans should be up in arms that a bill is not made public.
How can anyone be for it it they do not know what is in it? This is a nightmare for anyone that loves the freedom now on the internet.

Unfortunately, it's Democrats and Republicans who are working in unison to steal more of our freedom. It's what they do -- it's why they're called "lawmakers."

What freedom has been taken from you?

I see lots and lots of really vague platitudes to freedom, 'outrage' at the loss of it, and condemnation of net neutrality. All surprsingly similiar and suprisingly vague. But when I ask WHICH freedoms were lost, what was taken....

........

.......

....

..

Its just crickets.

Again the regulations have not been made public....

Again, how can you rail against the loss of freedom when you haven't seen the regulation? Its simple: either the regulation is your source on your 'loss of freedom', or you are. And since you haven't seen the regulation, then you're just citing yourself on your 'loss of freedom'.

Not the regulation.

You can't even *describe* what freedoms you've lost. Let alone factually establish that they were lost.

And since you haven't seen the regulation, then you're just blowing smoke that there is no loss of freedom.
At this point the regulations have been passed and we have to wait til the FCC publishes them to seem what is in them.

I'm asking what freedom was lost. How is that 'blowing smoke'?

My question doesn't magically become invalid just because it stumps you cold. What freedom does the new FCC regulation take from you.

We both already know the answer: you don't know. Nor do you know if it takes away any freedom.

Just admit it.