The "Secure America" Pledge

[Dr Grump]

Well, since you didn't tell us who the right people are or what actions, in your opinion, you think we should be taking, I'll assume you're just another wacko who has joined the board and will pass on any of your posts in the future.

Weak....very weak.... :duh3:

 

[nibor]

["Well, since you didn't tell us who the right people are or what actions, in your opinion, you think we should be taking, I'll assume you're just another wacko who has joined the board and will pass on any of your posts in the future."]


What the hell is with people in this country anymore,because I didn't come out in one sentence and give you everything including my sexual preferences,I'm ASS/UMED to be a wacko???????


I think maybe there's something else that maybe,should be dicussed FIRST and that may be WHAT THE HELL YOU'RE MISSING AA,how brainwashed are YOU "wacko",that you can find ANY FREAKIN' SOLACE in the gubmental "representation" befalling this nation???? :duh3:


You must be one o them party geeks!!!!!!!!

 

[Annie]

["Well, since you didn't tell us who the right people are or what actions, in your opinion, you think we should be taking, I'll assume you're just another wacko who has joined the board and will pass on any of your posts in the future."]


What the hell is with people in this country anymore,because I didn't come out in one sentence and give you everything including my sexual preferences,I'm ASS/UMED to be a wacko???????


I think maybe there's something else that maybe,should be dicussed FIRST and that may be WHAT THE HELL YOU'RE MISSING AA,how brainwashed are YOU "wacko",that you can find ANY FREAKIN' SOLACE in the gubmental "representation" befalling this nation???? :duh3:


You must be one o them party geeks!!!!!!!!

Gee, I wasn't thinking of you taking it up the arnse, rather just a freaking troll, shows what I know!

 

[nibor]

["Gee, I wasn't thinking of you taking it up the arnse, rather just a freaking troll, shows what I know!"] :fifty:



I'm NOT exactly sure what you're trying to say Kathianne?

 

[Adam's Apple]

I think it's true that our representatives are *supposed* to represent us. The problem arises where voters were pretty close to split 50/50 and the guys who won by a nose decide that they don't have to cut deals or address the concerns of the other party. That's when reaching out to those representatives becomes like shouting into the wind. Ya know?

You are correct, Jillian, that they are supposed to be representing us. It is too bad that we have to keep on their rear ends to get them to do what they are supposed to be doing. By golly, we send them to Washington to get done what we want done, and we have to keep their feet to the fire until they either comply or we send someone else to Washington who will. Perhaps that's the part of the equation that has been missing.

I would imagine that when the next election campaign begins, those who are up for re-election are going to get an ear full at all their campaign stops. At least I hope people will get out and challenge them on their voting records and public stances they have taken on major issues that people have not supported. A little public humiliation and embarrassment is the only way to make them understand that we are serious when we expect them to keep their campaign promises once they land in Washington instead of becoming "part and parcel" of that partisan environment.

 

[Adam's Apple]

Weak....very weak.... :duh3:

Give me one good reason why I should waste my time reading posts that offer nothing of substance--and for the most part do not even address the topic.

 

[Adam's Apple]

I think maybe there's something else that maybe,should be dicussed FIRST and that may be WHAT THE HELL YOU'RE MISSING AA,how brainwashed are YOU "wacko",that you can find ANY FREAKIN' SOLACE in the gubmental "representation" befalling this nation????

Now that you've enjoyed your little rant, go back and read my original post and tell me how I found "any freakin' solace in the gubmental "representation" befalling this nation".

 

[nibor]

AA first and foremost it MUST BE ESTABLISHED WHO'S BREAKING THE RULES OF THIS PLEDGE!!!!


And it happens to be THE VERY SAME REPRESENTAION that you are suggesting,we follow AND BEG representation from, like sheep to the slaughter!!!!!


WHOM created this situtation...........YOU.............ME.............?

 

[Adam's Apple]

AA first and foremost it MUST BE ESTABLISHED WHO'S BREAKING THE RULES OF THIS PLEDGE!!!!

The original post identifies who's breaking the rules of this pledge. Re-read--if you even read the post in the first place.

And it happens to be THE VERY SAME REPRESENTAION that you are suggesting we follow AND BEG representation from, like sheep to the slaughter!!!!!

"BEG representation from, like sheep to the slaughter" ? Somehow, in reading the items outlined in the "Pledge", I don't get the idea that begging is involved at all. You'll have to explain to me how you came up with that one.

 

[nibor]

The original post indentifies identifies no such thing!




1. The purpose of U.S. immigration policy is to benefit the citizens of the United States.

2. Since immigration policy can profoundly shape a country, it should be set by deliberate actions, not by accident or acquiescence, with careful consideration to ensure that it does not adversely affect the quality of life of American citizens and their communities.


3. Immigration policy should be based on and adhere to the rule of law. Immigration laws must be enforced consistently and uniformly throughout the United States.

4. Non-citizens enter the United States as guests and must obey the rules governing their entry. The U.S. government must track the entry, stay, and departure of all visa-holders to ensure that they comply fully with the terms of their visas, or to remove them if they fail to comply.

5. The borders of the United States must be physically secured at the earliest possible time. An effective barrier to the illegal entry of both aliens and contraband is vital to U.S. security.

6. Those responsible for facilitating illegal immigration shall be sought, arrested and prosecuted to the full extent of the law and shall forfeit any profits from such activity. This applies to smugglers and traffickers of people, as well as to those involved in the production, procurement, distribution, or use of fraudulent or counterfeit documents.

7. U.S. employers shall be given a simple and streamlined process to determine whether employees are legally eligible to work. Employers who obey the law shall be protected both from liability and from unfair competition by those who violate immigration law. The violators shall be subject to fines and taxes in excess of what they would have paid to employ U.S. citizens and legal residents for the same work.

8. Those who enter or remain in the United States in violation of the law shall be detained and removed expeditiously. Illegal aliens shall not accrue any benefit, including U.S. citizenship, as a result of their illegal entry or presence in the United States.

9. No federal, state or local entity shall reward individuals for violating immigration laws by granting public benefits or services, or by issuing or accepting any form of identification, or by providing any other assistance that facilitates unlawful presence or employment in this country. All federal and law enforcement agencies shall cooperate fully with federal immigration authorities, and shall report to such authorities any information they receive indicating that an individual may have violated immigration laws.

10. Illegal aliens currently in the United States may be afforded a one-time opportunity to leave the United States without penalty and seek permission to reenter legally if they qualify under existing law. Those who do not take advantage of this opportunity will be removed and permanently barred from returning.



This whole paper is an exercise in redundancy,like it hasn't ever been thought about,planned for,"LAWED",OR "ALLOWED" TO HAPPEN BY THOSE "LAW" MAKERS AND THE CORPORATE INTERESTS THEY REPRESENT~!?


Come off it AA,explain to you????????? :duh3:

If the situation that we've been MADE/FORCED to endure,by the total non representation of OUR interests,by a bunch of profiteering shanks and SLAVE MASTERS,who profess to be gubmental representation,you've GOT TO BE ONE OF THEM!!!


You're presenting this piece of redundant garbage in an attempt to what....................pass the blame of what's happening onto the poor people of the world trying to feed their families AFTER THEY'VE BEEN ADVERTISED FOR AND CONTRACTED????? :duh3:


GET REAL OR GET OUT OF THE ARGUEMENT!