The Scum Also Rises...Yet Again

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    <blockquote><b><a href=http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/201771_torture01.html>U.S. lawyers file complaint over abuses in Abu Ghraib</a>
    Rumsfeld, others named in case taken to German court</b>

    SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER NEWS SERVICES

    BERLIN -- A group of American civil rights attorneys filed a criminal complaint in German court yesterday against top U.S. authorities, including Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, for acts of torture committed at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

    The complaint also names former CIA Director George Tenet; the former commander in Iraq, Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez; and seven other military leaders.

    Attorneys from the New York-based Center for Constitutional Rights said they filed the complaint because they were disappointed in U.S. investigations into the Abu Ghraib abuses and hoped the filing would prompt an investigation by German authorities.</blockquote>

    Just how wrong have things gone in this country, when a foreign government is asked to look into the misdeeds of our own government? Ever since the attrocities at Abu Ghraib were revealed, the Bush administration ahs stone-walled or quashed any investigation into it.

    But with the revelations of the DOJ memos approved by Alberto Gonzales and IRC reports of conditions at Guantanamo Bay being nothing short of torture, the moral bankruptcy of Dubbyuh's administration is being revealed. The attrocities at Abu Ghraib and the mistreatment and torture of detainees at Gitmo show a government dedicated, not to the ideals of "freedom loving people", but rather one dedicated to power at any cost...achievement of the ends by any means necessary...a callous disregard for human suffering. To win the "War on Terror", our government must live up to the ideals it so blatantly pays lip service to. Otherwise the war is lost, the terrorists will have won, not because of their moral or military superiority, but because of the weakness, the shortsightedness, the hypocrisy and utter moral bankruptcy of our elected leaders.
     
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    Which of the three monkeys are you?

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    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

    Right. The Germans are going to "investigate". You bet.

    Send them. It might even be entertaining. Wonder if a German lawyer yodels when he gets his head cut off?

    Get some help Bully. I think you're suffering post-election trauma.
     
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    Well hey..there ya go, Bully is correct, it did. I'd like to add this... scum only rises in stagnant areas. :gross2:
     
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    Bully has a point. Rumsfeld took "full responsibility" for the Abu Ghraib incidents. What did being "fully responsible" for torture entail...NOTHING. That IS NOT RIGHT.
     
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    Who cares what they file in a German court? They have no jurisdiction over any Americans.

    Even if they were found guilty it wouldn't be valid because of the lack of constitutional due process. if the case is so strong file it in the States.
     
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    Guess again. German law permits prosecution for war crimes outside their borders. If the case comes to trial the defendants will be able to to defend themselves. But if they choose to disregard international law, as the administration has done from the gitgo, and they are found guilty, they may be arrested if they leave US territory. But that wouldn't be any great inconvenience for Dubbyuh. Before he was selected in 2000 he had never traveled outside the country. He only does do now because he has to.
     
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    When did German law become International Law? I thought they lost WWII?
    I hereby declare US law as International law....so there!
     
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    No kidding? I guess he wasn't President before he was selected and elected...maybe that has something to do with it. I know a lot of folks who never travelled outside this country and probably never will. So what?
     
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    Abu Ghraib was not war crimes, it was good soldiers doing a duty for their country. To win this war we cannot fight by this mythical moral high ground we keep talking about, we must get in the mud and beat these people at their own game. May god bless the soldiers of Abu Ghraib.

    Bully you are a stupid fuck. Selected in 2000, what a tool.
     

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