The right to a job.

[grunt11b]

I dont understand how those on the left can sit there and say out of one side of their mouths that everybody has a right to a job, but then say out of the other side of their mouths that nobody has the right to work. Can anyone answer this strange phenomenon for me?

 

[Lakhota]

It might be helpful if your question made more sense.

 

[S.J.]

Good question. I'd also like to know why they think it makes sense to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

 

[Lakhota]

Unions aren't perfect, but they are the goose that lays the golden eggs for labor.

Unions benefit all workers - union and non-union alike. That's why Republicans hate them.

The Kochsuckers want to dilute all wages, which is why they're trying so hard to kill unions.

And you dumbass righties are too fucking dumb to understand.

 

[koshergrl]

Everybody has the right to work, but nobody is OBLIGATED to work.

So if nobody works, and everybody has the RIGHT to work, but there are no employers...because they've chosen not to work...how does that work?

Does the government then force people to work, in order to supervise/pay the few who chose to exercise their RIGHT to work and get paid?

It makes no sense at all. Which is to say, it comes straight from minds like noomi and lackoda's..

 

[Lakhota]

Oh, we have a Zen riddle retard on board...

 

[Darkwind]

There is no right to work.

That closes down any and all other discussion regarding the right to job or nonsense about unions benefiting all employees....

 

[Politico]

No one has a right to a job.

 

[Lakhota]

Why We Need Labor Unions After All | Daily Ticker - Yahoo! Finance

 

[grunt11b]

It might be helpful if your question made more sense.

Well, Unions have been screaming for years that everybody has a right to a job, so has alot of people on the left. But when it comes to the right to work "As in the right to work laws" then they say that is not exceptable. What they really mean is, you have a right to a job as long as you join their union and pay the piper.

 

[grunt11b]

Why We Need Labor Unions After All | Daily Ticker - Yahoo! Finance

We needed unions back in the day when miners where sent into the mines in unsafe conditions, we dont need them today, there are already labor laws in effect that protect workers. Unions these days are nothing more than democrat finance institutions and lobbyists. If unions backed the GOP instead of the democrats you guys would be screaming the same bloody murder that everybody else is right now. Koch brothers anyone?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Why We Need Labor Unions After All | Daily Ticker - Yahoo! Finance

We needed unions back in the day when miners where sent into the mines in unsafe conditions, we dont need them today, there are already labor laws in effect that protect workers.

January 29, 2013

Record Profit-Sharing Checks​

"Ford Motor Co.'s record North American profit in 2012 will have a ripple effect on auto communities across the country and especially here in Southeast Michigan.

Roughly 45,800 hourly United Auto Workers members who work at Ford plants in the United States will receive record profit-sharing checks of $8,300 on average in March.

"The expected increase in profit-sharing checks for autoworkers this March is good news for Michigan's economy," said Robert Dye, chief economist at Comerica Bank. "It will help to buffer households from the drag of higher payroll taxes," which increased 2 percent for all working Americans on Jan. 1.

On average, the $8,300 profit-sharing check will have an economic impact of $20,750 per worker, when factoring a multiplying ripple effect, said David Sowerby, portfolio manager for Loomis Sayles in Bloomfield Hills."

. . . . . . ​

 

[theDoctorisIn]

It might be helpful if your question made more sense.

Well, Unions have been screaming for years that everybody has a right to a job, so has alot of people on the left. But when it comes to the right to work "As in the right to work laws" then they say that is not exceptable. What they really mean is, you have a right to a job as long as you join their union and pay the piper.

Well, the answer would be that "Right to Work" laws have nothing to do with a right to work.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Unions (imho) are like many things in this country. They served an important role in the beginning but could not limit themselves to just that role. They had to expand their role (and their power) beyond what is justified.

In terms of improving workplace safety and in terms of improving working conditions beyond slave-like situations, they serve a useful purpose. In terms of telling an employer who he can and who he cannot hire, they have far exceeded their justifiable role.

Just MHO

 

[nodoginnafight]

Good question. I'd also like to know why they think it makes sense to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

so 60 hour work weeks, ignoring worker safety, company stores, etc are golden eggs?
Golden for who?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Unions (imho) are like many things in this country. They served an important role in the beginning but could not limit themselves to just that role. They had to expand their role (and their power) beyond what is justified.

In terms of improving workplace safety and in terms of improving working conditions beyond slave-like situations, they serve a useful purpose. In terms of telling an employer who he can and who he cannot hire, they have far exceeded their justifiable role.

Just MHO

It's part of the human condition to consolidate and hoard power.

I support organized labor because management shouldn't be the only ones at the table.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

"Right to Work" laws are implemented to take whatever leverage labor has in the workplace away so that businesses can continue the race to the bottom. Low wages, long hours, high production and no benefits are the goal.

 

[Gadawg73]

No one has a right to a job.
A job has to be earned.
I am not obligated to hire anyone.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

"Right to Work" is a BS term. It has nothing to do with the "right to have a job". But you know what? As long as we need money just to survive on this planet, and that is the prevailing way to get the basics for staying alive, jobs will be necessary for all... so in a way, you could say that yes, everyone has the right to a way to get the resources necessary for basic survival. Depends on how you look at it.

 

[Gadawg73]

"Right to Work" laws are implemented to take whatever leverage labor has in the workplace away so that businesses can continue the race to the bottom. Low wages, long hours, high production and no benefits are the goal.

Total Bull Shit.
I own businesses in a Right to Work State.
Our cost of living is 20-25% lower in many areas such as housing because competition for the labor, not unions, stretches a workers' pay here more than any union state.
Federal law bans long hours unless time and a half or double time is paid.
NO employer that wants good employees fucks them. That is the liberal myth.
No benefits, you are right on that one. It is the responsibility of the employee to take care of themselves. Health care benefits increases have run 450% above the inflation rate for the last 20 years.
Take a wild guess who that hurts the most in wages? THE UNION WORKER because his benefits cost so much their jobs are BEING ELIMINATED.
We need to go back to where the consumer buys their own health care benefits. That way wages would rise dramatically.