The revelation of Christ Nazarene part4

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    1)the first and fallen christ would be the forbiden lucifer, impostering the Moshiach to come. THE first fallen can't say watch out for the next deemed Shiloh(one who's right it is), saying he comes as anti christ(Lucifer).
    This would be like listening to Saddam call us the great satan.
    2)Lucifer the morning star representing him being the fallen arc(h) =Jesus in Rev 22:16, the only fallen to hades messiah claimed a god as warned about in the OT-Ezekiel 28.
    The Morning Star is Baal's son, so they are admitting falling for another god one deemed devil worship.

    3)Lucifer in Ezekiel 28 can only be Jesus, nobody was ever rediculously called perfect and a god nor came as first fallen Messiah.

    Ezekiel 28:8 They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths of [them that are] slain in the midst of the ‘seas’ (i.e.Rome). =Jesus 1 peter 3:19, Acts 2:27

    Eze 28:9 Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I [am] God? but thou [shalt be] a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee. =Jesus
    (John 8:57, 10:25-36, Psalm 82:1-8)
    Later he rose from the Pit declared as God fulfilling the AntiChrist warnings.

    Ezekiel 28:2 Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart [is] lifted up, and thou hast said, I [am] a God, I sit [in] the seat of God, in the midst of the seas(Rome); yet thou [art] a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God (this is like how the Popes claim to be viceroy and gods in Rome, set up as imposters of the Jerusalem Temple and throne and TRUE Authority)

    Ezekiel 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the *king of Tyrus*(Tyrus meaning Rock, Jesus was the King of the Rock (the Church) and popular in TYRE according to the NT as in deemed a Prince of Tyre), and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
    (similar- Isaiah 44 talks about the carpenter making an idol of a beautiful man (sinless-whitewashed image)and placing it on walls in homes and bowing to it.)
    Ezekiel 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone [was] thy covering,
    (The image of his man was formed from borrowed mythology of Mithra which came out of ancient persia thus literally been in the garden of eden describing the region in ancient Persia.)

    Ezekiel 28:14 Thou [art] the anointed (christ) cherub (guardian=nazarene) that covereth; and I have set thee [so]: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

    28:15 Thou [wast] perfect(sinless) in thy ways from the day that thou wast created(his image/icon was created with this intention), till iniquity was found in thee(till the information age exposed what the preachers avoided or whitewashed over).

    No other prophet was ever deemed perfect, nor called christ (anointed) Cherub(nazarei) therefore nobody but Jesus fulfills lucifer.
    Coming first as the first and fallen messiah should make it obvious enough as Lucifer comes first and is overturned by the Shiloh, (one who's right it is.) If jesus was Messiah there would be no Shiloh.

    4)Satan would have 3 1/2 years which is exactly the length of time the image Jesus missionized.

    5)the fallen Star= Lucifer would bring 1/3 the fish to die in the sea(Rome)=1/3 Christians died in Rome.
    6)lucifer would lead 1/3 to him 1/3 World is Christian=Luciferian
    7)lucifer means phosphorus mystical rays of light and Constantine and Paul both had visitations from this luciferous light claimed Jesus. So Either Jesus is Lucifer or Lucifer wants you to worship the false prophet over God or you admit they lie and make up insane stories.
    8)the followers even admit the false prophet will be lifted by Rome to create a one world religion, and JOHN OF Patmos was writing present tense that it was happening in his era. That 1 world religion being Christianity=those who follow a christ figure.
    Before that there was the HaNotzrim (followers of Yeshu), the Yehudites or Galilean followers, the Nazarenes(Theudite followers?), Followers of Benjamin the Egyptian, Followers of Christos (Krishna), followers of Mithra, and still Baal worship and temples existed as well as other Babylonian mystery cults. There was no singular Christianity, it was made the compilation of all those figures and followers as one new world religion under the image of the fallen Lucifer (Morning star).
     
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    And this is why he's Satan's prophet, lucifer being used to displace blame from
    Rome to Jerusalem. Your post choice is the reason why Israel was made the suffering servant of Isaiah 53 and why you satanists killed over 50 million people, portion being Jews who never lived in the era having anything to do with a fictional cartoon character called Jesus.
     
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    That verse from Mathew is rather interesting as most people are hen pecked into doing something they may or may not want to... The fact is that book the New Testament which was pushed by a Roman dictator(constantine) hen pecked all the other groups of the Roman Empire to follow their lead... The problem for the Romans and the early developers of Christianity was that the Jews would not follow suit and live under the Roman wing... That verse is very telling and shows the true intent and devious mind of the founders of Christianity and whoever wrote that passage in Mathew...
     
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    I know, like on the other thread I noted the apostles of the ad era christ all became martyrs slain by Rome for their revolt.
    They just proved Matthew was not written by A Jew or as historical...clear cit propaganda, the kind that killed millions of people. The fact they have no clue what they are implying and instigating is like having novclue how Isis uses propaganda to incite violence. They are the same act of hate mongering causeing the same result.
    Hence over 50 million murders in Jesus name on people who never knew of or lived in the fictitious characters era to be blamed and neither is his life greater then 50 million innocents =epic fail.
     
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    Yah....lol... Hens don't live very long so Rome could gather up all the ones who hid there under that wing and easily slaughter them as they were all in one place if they dared to disagree with the Roman wishes...Called control and it works to keep the masses in line...
     
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    The fact the apostles weren't even prophets in the technical sense also hasn't even been touched, but if we asked which actual prophets Matthew meant by listing them then the fun will start.
    Hey Irish Ram, please provide actual names of prophets and why you think this is what Matthew is refering to. Thanks. :)
     
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    No sources as usual, we got another post and run.
     
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    I can list the false prophets:
    FAILED END-OF-THE-WORLD PREDICTIONS WHICH WERE TO OCCUR BEFORE 1998
    From 30-90 ad the gospels recorded many failed predictions of end times:in Matthew 16:28: "...there shall be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." Since the life expectancy in those days was little over 30 years, Jesus predicted his second coming sometime during the 1st century CE. It didn't happen. more failed end time rants can be found in (I Cor. 10:11 -KJV) (Heb. 1:2 -KJV) (I Peter 1:20 -KJV) (I Peter 4:7 -KJV)(1 John 2:15-17) (I John 2:18 -KJV)
    Remember you can't claim the kingdom to come before the desciples deaths and then fail to deliver if you want to be considered a prophet of G-d.
    You can't claim to be Messiah if you can't liberate or deliver your people instead you cause them to scatter and be slain that's not a savior that's the result of false cult leaders through the ages.




    Lets review the long list of other false prophets:
    400 CE. 500 CE: This was the first year-with-a-nice-round-number-panic.

    The antipope Hippolytus and an earlier Christian academic Sextus Julius Africanus had predicted Armageddon
    at about this year 992: Good Friday coincided with the Feast of the Annunciation; this had long been believed to be the event that would bring forth the Antichrist, and thus the end-times events foretold in the book of Revelation.


    1000-JAN-1: Many Christians in Europe had predicted the end of the world on this date. As the date approached, Christian armies waged war against some of the Pagan countries in Northern Europe. The motivation was to convert them all to Christianity, by force if necessary, before Christ returned in the year 1000. Meanwhile, some Christians had given their possessions to the Church in anticipation of the end. Fortunately, the level of education was so low that many citizens were unaware of the year. They did not know enough to be afraid. Otherwise, the panic might have been far worse than it was. Unfortunately, when Jesus did not appear, the church did not return the gifts. Serious criticism of the Church followed. The Church reacted by exterminating some heretics.



    1033: Some believed this to be the 1000th anniversary of the death and resurrection of Jesus. His second coming was anticipated. Jesus' actual date of execution is unknown, but is believed to be in the range of 27 to 33 CE only because they weren't educated to know of the story of Yeshu ben Pandera who lived a century before the dating of the icon.

    1147: Gerard of Poehlde decided that the millennium had actually started in 306 CE during Constantine's reign. Thus, the world end would happen in 1306 CE.
    **Notice a pattern where people displace why the events didn't occur, they keep pushing the dates farther and farther rather then admit they have been deceived. **


    1179: John of Toledo predicted the end of the world during 1186. This estimate was based on the alignment of many planets.

    1205: Joachim of Fiore predicted in 1190 that the Antichrist was already in the world, and that King Richard of England would defeat him. The Millennium would then begin, sometime before 1205.

    1284: Pope Innocent III computed this date by adding 666 years onto the date the Islam was founded. 1346 and later: The black plague spread across Europe, killing one third of the population. This was seen as the prelude to an immediate end of the world. If they knew what SEA meant they would have known that 1/3 the fish (Christians) in the sea (Rome) meant Christians in Roman teritory who did die when Rome was trying to remove Christianity before they adopted the sect to mask their unity movement similar to the one you see today. Most unexecusable was the fact they diplaced the blame onto the Jews for the Plague to hide the fact it was their fault as the Christians had previously killed many of the cats, fearing that they might be familiars of Witches. The fewer the cats, the more the rats. It was the rat fleas that spread the black plague.

    16XX Mother Shipton, a 16th century mystic predicted the end of the world: "The world to an end shall come; in eighteen hundred and eighty-one."

    1669: The Old Believers in Russia believed that the end of the world would occur in this year. 20 thousand burned themselves to death from 1669 to 1690 to protect themselves from the Antichrist. *Yikes*

    1794: Charles Wesley, one of the founders of Methodism, thought Doomsday would be in this year.

    1832: Joseph Smith, the founder of the Mormon movement, heard a voice and interpreted it as implying that if he lived to the age of 85, Jesus would return. This would be the year 1890. Unfortunately, by that year, Smith had been dead for almost a half century.


    1936: Herbert W Armstrong, founder of the Worldwide Church of God, predicted that the Day of the Lord would happen sometime in 1936. When the prediction failed, he made a new estimate: 1975.

    1959: The Branch Davidians of Waco TX believed that they would be killed, resurrected and transferred to heaven by APR-22.



    1967: During the six day war, the Israeli army captured all of Jerusalem. Many conservative Christians believed that the rapture would occur quickly. However, the final Biblical prerequisite for the second coming is that the Jews resume ritual animal sacrifices in the temple at Jerusalem. That never happened.

    1970's: The late Moses David (formerly David Berg) was the founder of the Christian religious group, The Children of God. He predicted that a comet would hit the earth, probably in the mid 1970's and destroy all life in the United States. One source indicated that he believed it would happen in 1973.

    Back in the 70's Pastor Arnold Murray of Shepherds Chapel predicted that the Antichrist would appear before 1981.

    1978: Chuck Smith, Pastor had a false prophecy (truncated to long a list)
    Conclusion: Christianity was founded by false prophecy and produced many many false prophecy and profit makers.
     
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    No refutation, because most all pastors use Ezekiel 28 when discussing prophecy on Lucifer. But ask yourselves why they use the word Christ all over the NT where they talk about anointed, but when they translate Ezekiel 28 they keep the word "anointed" to hide the fact Ezekiel calls Lucifer
    "Christ Nazarene"?
     

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