The Republicans can only wreck healthcare...

[dfens]

they will never come up with a workable plan of their own.

You get what you asked for, conservatives! Your ideology is that everybody should be free to screw each other over in the wild west, unregulated free market.

As such, the insurers and hospitals will screw you over. It's your ideology, it's what you believe in.

 

[Camp]

Trumpcare is nothing more than a scam to give huge tax breaks to the wealthy.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Trumpcare is nothing more than a scam to give huge tax breaks to the wealthy.

Tax breaks, sounds awful!!!
Tell me more.

 

[007]

You can't break what's already broken.

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

Trumpcare is nothing more than a scam to give huge tax breaks to the wealthy.

Why you always hatin' on us / me?

I'll spend it local on hookers and blow

 

[007]

Trumpcare is nothing more than a scam to give huge tax breaks to the wealthy.

Why you always hatin' on us / me?

I'll spend it local on hookers and blow

I'll be meetin' up with ya bro... sounds like a good times.

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

Trumpcare is nothing more than a scam to give huge tax breaks to the wealthy.

Why you always hatin' on us / me?

I'll spend it local on hookers and blow

I'll be meetin' up with ya bro... sounds like a good times.

We'll make America great again

 

[sealybobo]

they will never come up with a workable plan of their own.

You get what you asked for, conservatives! Your ideology is that everybody should be free to screw each other over in the wild west, unregulated free market.

As such, the insurers and hospitals will screw you over. It's your ideology, it's what you believe in.

A single young guy making $100k will see his rates go down from about $200 a month to $78 a month but a 60 year old couple will go up $43000. That's right.

Don't forget we will all get old.

 

[mudwhistle]

they will never come up with a workable plan of their own.

You get what you asked for, conservatives! Your ideology is that everybody should be free to screw each other over in the wild west, unregulated free market.

As such, the insurers and hospitals will screw you over. It's your ideology, it's what you believe in.

So you dumbasses break something and then claim we can't fix it.
Noted.

 

[Eloy]

The principal reason the Republican politicians cannot craft a workable health care bill is their ideological preference of the free market over government.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The principal reason the Republican politicians cannot craft a workable health care bill is their ideological preference of the free market over government.

I know, when you look at all the things the government gets right......how could we?

 

[MarcATL]

The principal reason the Republican politicians cannot craft a workable health care bill is their ideological preference of the free market over government.

What does this even mean?

 

[Camp]

The principal reason the Republican politicians cannot craft a workable health care bill is their ideological preference of the free market over government.

It is not a genuinely free market. The government has a long list of tax breaks, subsidies, and laws that protect businesses that come under the heading of health care. Big pharma is an example. Drugs produced under license and inspected in foreign countries sell for a fraction of US prices all over Europe and Canada. Health care cost would drop drastically if US drug manufacturers had to compete with foreign manufacturers, even if they are made under strict inspections and certified as being the same quality of US manufactured products.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The principal reason the Republican politicians cannot craft a workable health care bill is their ideological preference of the free market over government.

It is not a genuinely free market. The government has a long list of tax breaks, subsidies, and laws that protect businesses that come under the heading of health care. Big pharma is an example. Drugs produced under license and inspected in foreign countries sell for a fraction of US prices all over Europe and Canada. Health care cost would drop drastically if US drug manufacturers had to compete with foreign manufacturers, even if they are made under strict inspections and certified as being the same quality of US manufactured products.

Drugs produced under license and inspected in foreign countries sell for a fraction of US prices all over Europe and Canada.

Why would evil drug companies sell for less in Europe and Canada? Can you explain?

 

[Camp]

The principal reason the Republican politicians cannot craft a workable health care bill is their ideological preference of the free market over government.

I know, when you look at all the things the government gets right......how could we?

It is a myth that private industry has a better record for quality and success in programs than the government. You can read stories of private industry screw-ups and failures every day.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The principal reason the Republican politicians cannot craft a workable health care bill is their ideological preference of the free market over government.

I know, when you look at all the things the government gets right......how could we?

It is a myth that private industry has a better record for quality and success in programs than the government. You can read stories of private industry screw-ups and failures every day.

You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs, eh comrade?

 

[Camp]

The principal reason the Republican politicians cannot craft a workable health care bill is their ideological preference of the free market over government.

It is not a genuinely free market. The government has a long list of tax breaks, subsidies, and laws that protect businesses that come under the heading of health care. Big pharma is an example. Drugs produced under license and inspected in foreign countries sell for a fraction of US prices all over Europe and Canada. Health care cost would drop drastically if US drug manufacturers had to compete with foreign manufacturers, even if they are made under strict inspections and certified as being the same quality of US manufactured products.

Drugs produced under license and inspected in foreign countries sell for a fraction of US prices all over Europe and Canada.

Why would evil drug companies sell for less in Europe and Canada? Can you explain?

They have to actually compete with each other. That, and the government does not allow gouging, or at least prevents gouging by allowing the competition. In the US, companies are protected under the guise that without those protections the profit margin will make the production of products unprofitable and cause the product to not be produced. In other countries, the attitude is that there will be competition and entrepreneurs willing to produce the product for less profit margin. That is how a free market is supposed to work.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The principal reason the Republican politicians cannot craft a workable health care bill is their ideological preference of the free market over government.

It is not a genuinely free market. The government has a long list of tax breaks, subsidies, and laws that protect businesses that come under the heading of health care. Big pharma is an example. Drugs produced under license and inspected in foreign countries sell for a fraction of US prices all over Europe and Canada. Health care cost would drop drastically if US drug manufacturers had to compete with foreign manufacturers, even if they are made under strict inspections and certified as being the same quality of US manufactured products.

Drugs produced under license and inspected in foreign countries sell for a fraction of US prices all over Europe and Canada.

Why would evil drug companies sell for less in Europe and Canada? Can you explain?

They have to actually compete with each other. That, and the government does not allow gouging, or at least prevents gouging by allowing the competition. In the US, companies are protected under the guise that without those protections the profit margin will make the production of products unprofitable and cause the product to not be produced. In other countries, the attitude is that there will be competition and entrepreneurs willing to produce the product for less profit margin. That is how a free market is supposed to work.

They have to actually compete with each other.

They don't compete here?

That is how a free market is supposed to work.

You think drugs are cheaper in Europe and Canada because they have a freer market?

 

[Camp]

The principal reason the Republican politicians cannot craft a workable health care bill is their ideological preference of the free market over government.

It is not a genuinely free market. The government has a long list of tax breaks, subsidies, and laws that protect businesses that come under the heading of health care. Big pharma is an example. Drugs produced under license and inspected in foreign countries sell for a fraction of US prices all over Europe and Canada. Health care cost would drop drastically if US drug manufacturers had to compete with foreign manufacturers, even if they are made under strict inspections and certified as being the same quality of US manufactured products.

Drugs produced under license and inspected in foreign countries sell for a fraction of US prices all over Europe and Canada.

Why would evil drug companies sell for less in Europe and Canada? Can you explain?

They have to actually compete with each other. That, and the government does not allow gouging, or at least prevents gouging by allowing the competition. In the US, companies are protected under the guise that without those protections the profit margin will make the production of products unprofitable and cause the product to not be produced. In other countries, the attitude is that there will be competition and entrepreneurs willing to produce the product for less profit margin. That is how a free market is supposed to work.

They have to actually compete with each other.

They don't compete here?

That is how a free market is supposed to work.

You think drugs are cheaper in Europe and Canada because they have a freer market?

In Europe, the governments negotiate drug prices and have options about which companies they can deal with. The Epipen that was in the news not long ago cost over $600 in the US. Medicaid and Medicare are by law forbidden to negotiate the price. In Great Britain, the product negotiated for a cost of less than $70. How can the cost of medicine in the US be "free market" when there is a law that forbids the largest buyer of a product, Medicaid, and Medicare from negotiating a price and not allowing the manufacturer that produces the product for Great Britain to enter the competition?

 

[debbiedowner]

they will never come up with a workable plan of their own.

You get what you asked for, conservatives! Your ideology is that everybody should be free to screw each other over in the wild west, unregulated free market.

As such, the insurers and hospitals will screw you over. It's your ideology, it's what you believe in.

A single young guy making $100k will see his rates go down from about $200 a month to $78 a month but a 60 year old couple will go up $43000. That's right.

Don't forget we will all get old.

Only if he purchases a bare bones policy with no hospital coverage, high deductible and high max out of pocket.