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Redistributing confiscated money through government programs is the opposite of economic growth.
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...by giving money to the poor to consume more they create a demand...
You can't take money out of the economy, run it through a government bureaucracy, then redistribute it to poor people and call that stimulus. That's akin to me robbing the local grocery store of their till, handing that money to a local bum and when he goes to buy beer, calling that stimulative. It doesn't work that way.
You have fallen victim to the fallacy of breaking windows. Look it up.
Democrats have been fighting a "War on Poverty" for 3 generation now and we have more poor people than ever. That's a Fail
The Communist Peoples Republic of Vietnam has rejected Democrats Redisrtibutive Economics in favor of Free Enterprise and in a few short years, not generations, they went from having to import 1 million tons of rice annually to now being the second largest EXPORTER of rice on the planet. That's a success
Maybe you Libs can tell the Vietnamese that they're wrong and government knows best?
Actually when Democrats where in power poverty went from 50% to 12%, then the GOP took control and poverty went from 12% to 14%/
typical treasonous Marxist brainwashing from a liberal. Why not tell us the great crimes that Gates, Jobs, and Ford committed??
Let me guess, Gates made PC software possible and affordable, Jobs made the Iphone possible and affordable, and Ford made the car possible and affordable. Oh, and they employed 10's of millions!!
The liberal says, lets hang them all!!!!
Democrats have been fighting a "War on Poverty" for 3 generation now and we have more poor people than ever. That's a Fail
The Communist Peoples Republic of Vietnam has rejected Democrats Redisrtibutive Economics in favor of Free Enterprise and in a few short years, not generations, they went from having to import 1 million tons of rice annually to now being the second largest EXPORTER of rice on the planet. That's a success
Maybe you Libs can tell the Vietnamese that they're wrong and government knows best?
Actually when Democrats where in power poverty went from 50% to 12%, then the GOP took control and poverty went from 12% to 14%/
What?
Actually when Democrats where in power poverty went from 50% to 12%, then the GOP took control and poverty went from 12% to 14%/
What?
Just ignore him, starcraftzzz is a troll.
What?
Just ignore him, starcraftzzz is a troll.
Star seemingly has the brain power of a liberal; that's true but can can you tell me which liberal here is better, if anyone. I find them all the same. In one way or the other they merely support more and more welfare and have no growth plan.
Just ignore him, starcraftzzz is a troll.
Star seemingly has the brain power of a liberal; that's true but can can you tell me which liberal here is better, if anyone. I find them all the same. In one way or the other they merely support more and more welfare and have no growth plan.
At least most of the libs here have some pretty decent debates and are not trolls.
Star seemingly has the brain power of a liberal; that's true but can can you tell me which liberal here is better, if anyone. I find them all the same. In one way or the other they merely support more and more welfare and have no growth plan.
At least most of the libs here have some pretty decent debates and are not trolls.
don't you know that everyone you don't like on the net is a troll? Please don't use the word anymore. It identifies you as a child who is impressed by the first insult word you have learned.
If a liberal ever made a good point in a debate please tell us what it was or admit such a thing never happened.
At least most of the libs here have some pretty decent debates and are not trolls.
don't you know that everyone you don't like on the net is a troll? Please don't use the word anymore. It identifies you as a child who is impressed by the first insult word you have learned.
If a liberal ever made a good point in a debate please tell us what it was or admit such a thing never happened.
This is the first time I have ever called someone on this board a troll.
And no, not everyone you don't like on the net is a troll.
Troll
One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument
Noun
A member of an internet forum who continually harangues and harasses others. Someone with nothing worthwhile to add to a certain conversation, but rather continually threadjacks or changes the subject, as well as thinks every member of the forum is talking about them and only them.
It's a matter of opinion if some are or are not making a good point.
don't you know that everyone you don't like on the net is a troll? Please don't use the word anymore. It identifies you as a child who is impressed by the first insult word you have learned.
If a liberal ever made a good point in a debate please tell us what it was or admit such a thing never happened.
This is the first time I have ever called someone on this board a troll.
And no, not everyone you don't like on the net is a troll.
Troll
One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument
Noun
A member of an internet forum who continually harangues and harasses others. Someone with nothing worthwhile to add to a certain conversation, but rather continually threadjacks or changes the subject, as well as thinks every member of the forum is talking about them and only them.
It's a matter of opinion if some are or are not making a good point.
and can you present to us even one good point that a liberal has made
in debate here as you claimed? I can see why you want to split hairs on the meaning of trolls. Substance is tough for a liberal isn't it?
Do you think I'm a liberal?
Do you think I'm a liberal?
Democrats have been fighting a "War on Poverty" for 3 generation now and we have more poor people than ever. That's a Fail
The Communist Peoples Republic of Vietnam has rejected Democrats Redisrtibutive Economics in favor of Free Enterprise and in a few short years, not generations, they went from having to import 1 million tons of rice annually to now being the second largest EXPORTER of rice on the planet. That's a success
Maybe you Libs can tell the Vietnamese that they're wrong and government knows best?
I am amazed by your twisted reasoning.
First of all, nobody gives rich people money.
Rich people give money to everyone else.
Nobody gets a job from a poor person.
Rich people create most of the jobs in the US.
Although 30% of millionaires have inherited their fortune, they still must earn money or they will go broke. Even if they just put their money in the bank, they will be paid interest and the money that they deposit will be loaned out to people who are not rich. These loans make it possible for people to buy cars, homes and businesses all of which create jobs.
Also, studies show that most lottery winners lose all of their winnings within 5 years. This is because most of them do not know how to manage money. Spending all of their money does little good for them or for the economy because once the money is gone, it is gone.
If we taxed all of the rich people 100%. There will be no more rich people, there will be no more jobs and no more money to lend.
First of all, I doubt whether these two purses cost the same.
The more expensive purse probably is real leather instead of plastic, for instance, which Im sure requires not only more labor but more skilled labor. But that aside, lets see where this goes. The Walmart purse is made in a low-wage factory, and is sold by a minimum wage employee. End of the story.
The Coach purse, on the other hand, supports a more skilled production force; intense marketing campaigns, which support designers, videographers, television and print production people; not only high-end sales employees (who earn a living wage) at upscale department stores, but also at Coachs mall stores. Its not all just additional profit, although the margins probably are higher. See, consumption is not just about the product, but also the product support, which we also consume. Which jobs do we want? More Walmart/McDonalds type jobs? Which is likely to produce more US jobs? Low skill production jobs are supported by the $10 purse, and those are going to China or other low-wage countries in droves.
Your approach assumes we want to reduce ourselves to the lowest common denominator. We didnt become the richest nation on the planet by accepting that fate. We became the richest nation on the planet by not accepting less than we could achieve, by aiming higher, and in the process raising the lowest common denominator to a new level.
you said liberals have made some good points in debates here. I asked you 4 times to present an example. You have been afraid try to
support your statement that a liberal made a good point.
That must tell you something about liberalism?