The REAL truth about the Town Hall Activist

[OneWorld]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl91YF1d3Kg]YouTube - Rachel Maddow Exposes "Fake" Protesters At Health Care Town Halls[/ame]

And Republicans still don't believe they are being directed and told what to think?

Look, on the left they have begun groups like this over the past 10 years to model what Repubs have been doing for quite some time. This strategy is just bad for America period. The only difference that I see between the two groups is that on the left they are not largely funded by corporate interest (some are), and not seeing blatant lies being told to them. But regardless, it's not right.

So if you can watch that video, and still say you're not being lied to, and there is not an orchestrated effort to mis-inform and shut down legitimate conversation... you will forever be blind.

 

[DiveCon]

didn't you already create a thread on this?

 

[jreeves]

YouTube - Rachel Maddow Exposes "Fake" Protesters At Health Care Town Halls

And Republicans still don't believe they are being directed and told what to think?

Look, on the left they have begun groups like this over the past 10 years to model what Repubs have been doing for quite some time. This strategy is just bad for America period. The only difference that I see between the two groups is that on the left they are not largely funded by corporate interest (some are), and not seeing blatant lies being told to them. But regardless, it's not right.

So if you can watch that video, and still say you're not being lied to, and there is not an orchestrated effort to mis-inform and shut down legitimate conversation... you will forever be blind.

Now I actually pulled up the website she was referring to in the video. Clicked on my state and here is the page that pulled up. Now where in this does it tell followers to disrupt town hall meetings and act pissed off? It doesn't.
Maryland Recess Rally : RECESS RALLY :: Nationwide Rally against Socialized Medicine
The default time and location for each of the Recess Rallies is Noon local time out in front of each of the 1000+ congressional offices. If you are unsure, you can just show up at the location. In the event there is a different location and time set for the event, that information will be listed beneath the specific district. If you are an organizer in your area and would like to be listed as a local contact, please contact us at [email protected].

The Nationwide Recess Rally takes place on Saturday, August 22nd, 2009. If you believe your liberty, your hard earned money and your way of life is under attack through dangerous healthcare legislation currently being proposed, get to your local Representative office on August 22nd and make sure he/she knows.

 

[jreeves]

YouTube - Rachel Maddow Exposes "Fake" Protesters At Health Care Town Halls

And Republicans still don't believe they are being directed and told what to think?

Look, on the left they have begun groups like this over the past 10 years to model what Repubs have been doing for quite some time. This strategy is just bad for America period. The only difference that I see between the two groups is that on the left they are not largely funded by corporate interest (some are), and not seeing blatant lies being told to them. But regardless, it's not right.

So if you can watch that video, and still say you're not being lied to, and there is not an orchestrated effort to mis-inform and shut down legitimate conversation... you will forever be blind.

Dr. Evil-Soros injects millions into healthcare debate
s George Soros Dr. Evil? He's Dr. Feel Good to Health Care for America Now.

Health Care for America Now, one of those "grassroots" organizations Dems usually love, just got a lotta love - five million dollars worth - from the MoveOn.org financier. Greg Sargent's The Plum Line reports HCAN's effectiveness has been questioned, although HCAN is highly organized. Soros funds grassroots organizing for progressive causes and candidates.

MoveOn.org is a Soros favorite. Five million members financed Barack Obama's Presidential campaign. They've also been willing to donate on a dime, responding instantly to urgent appeals for money to support a variety of progressive causes.

MoveOn.org is a mouthpiece for progressive propagandizing, according to Capital Research Center.

Apparently there are good grassroots and bad grassroots, according to everyone on the left. Progressives attacked spontaneous disruptions of their thoughtful, intelligent town hall health care discussions, aka indoctrination. The attackers are the bad seeds of the grassroots movements, aka old people, not obedient to the health care manifesto.

President Obama and everyone on the left are fighting back against the bad seeds. The mantra is the old people are financed by the insurance companies, lobbyists and big money interests, like George Soros.

Perhaps a blind date (even though we know they are too old for him) should be arranged for George Soros and those big money donors on the right?

Sadly, such a meeting would end up in a no show, since George Soros is one of a kind. There is no George Soros on the right. The opposition is more spontaneous combustion than deliberate construction.

The mystery is how President Obama and everyone he likes think they can get away with the criticism of an authentic uprising as well financed and most puzzling, organized.

Aren't they smart enough? They think they are, you can see it in their videos. That smirk that says We won. Barack Obama got elected using double talk, disinformation and outright lies.

If it ain't broke, why fix it?
Hmmm....

 

[jreeves]

YouTube - Rachel Maddow Exposes "Fake" Protesters At Health Care Town Halls

And Republicans still don't believe they are being directed and told what to think?

Look, on the left they have begun groups like this over the past 10 years to model what Repubs have been doing for quite some time. This strategy is just bad for America period. The only difference that I see between the two groups is that on the left they are not largely funded by corporate interest (some are), and not seeing blatant lies being told to them. But regardless, it's not right.

So if you can watch that video, and still say you're not being lied to, and there is not an orchestrated effort to mis-inform and shut down legitimate conversation... you will forever be blind.

Dr. Evil-Soros injects millions into healthcare debate
s George Soros Dr. Evil? He's Dr. Feel Good to Health Care for America Now.

Health Care for America Now, one of those "grassroots" organizations Dems usually love, just got a lotta love - five million dollars worth - from the MoveOn.org financier. Greg Sargent's The Plum Line reports HCAN's effectiveness has been questioned, although HCAN is highly organized. Soros funds grassroots organizing for progressive causes and candidates.

MoveOn.org is a Soros favorite. Five million members financed Barack Obama's Presidential campaign. They've also been willing to donate on a dime, responding instantly to urgent appeals for money to support a variety of progressive causes.

MoveOn.org is a mouthpiece for progressive propagandizing, according to Capital Research Center.

Apparently there are good grassroots and bad grassroots, according to everyone on the left. Progressives attacked spontaneous disruptions of their thoughtful, intelligent town hall health care discussions, aka indoctrination. The attackers are the bad seeds of the grassroots movements, aka old people, not obedient to the health care manifesto.

President Obama and everyone on the left are fighting back against the bad seeds. The mantra is the old people are financed by the insurance companies, lobbyists and big money interests, like George Soros.

Perhaps a blind date (even though we know they are too old for him) should be arranged for George Soros and those big money donors on the right?

Sadly, such a meeting would end up in a no show, since George Soros is one of a kind. There is no George Soros on the right. The opposition is more spontaneous combustion than deliberate construction.

The mystery is how President Obama and everyone he likes think they can get away with the criticism of an authentic uprising as well financed and most puzzling, organized.

Aren't they smart enough? They think they are, you can see it in their videos. That smirk that says We won. Barack Obama got elected using double talk, disinformation and outright lies.

If it ain't broke, why fix it?
Hmmm....

Health Care for America NOW - About Us
Health Care for America Now and its principles for reform are supported by President Obama, Vice President Biden, and more than 190 Members of Congress. HCAN has more than 1,000 member organizations in 46 states. We are doctors, nurses, community organizations, labor unions, small business owners, faith-based groups, people of color, seniors, and children’s and women’s rights groups.

For the complete list of HCAN members, view our membership list.

Our Steering Committee includes: ACORN, AFL-CIO, AFSCME, AFT, Americans United for Change, Campaign for America’s Future, Center for American Progress Action Fund, Campaign for Community Change, Children’s Defense Fund Action Council, Communications Workers of America, International Union, United Automobile, Aerospace & Agricultural Implement Workers of America (UAW), MoveOn.org, NAACP, National Council of La Raza, National Education Association, National Women’s Law Center, SEIU, UFCW, USAction, Women's Voices, Women's Vote and Working America.

 

[jreeves]

YouTube - Rachel Maddow Exposes "Fake" Protesters At Health Care Town Halls

And Republicans still don't believe they are being directed and told what to think?

Look, on the left they have begun groups like this over the past 10 years to model what Repubs have been doing for quite some time. This strategy is just bad for America period. The only difference that I see between the two groups is that on the left they are not largely funded by corporate interest (some are), and not seeing blatant lies being told to them. But regardless, it's not right.

So if you can watch that video, and still say you're not being lied to, and there is not an orchestrated effort to mis-inform and shut down legitimate conversation... you will forever be blind.

Dr. Evil-Soros injects millions into healthcare debate
s George Soros Dr. Evil? He's Dr. Feel Good to Health Care for America Now.

Health Care for America Now, one of those "grassroots" organizations Dems usually love, just got a lotta love - five million dollars worth - from the MoveOn.org financier. Greg Sargent's The Plum Line reports HCAN's effectiveness has been questioned, although HCAN is highly organized. Soros funds grassroots organizing for progressive causes and candidates.

MoveOn.org is a Soros favorite. Five million members financed Barack Obama's Presidential campaign. They've also been willing to donate on a dime, responding instantly to urgent appeals for money to support a variety of progressive causes.

MoveOn.org is a mouthpiece for progressive propagandizing, according to Capital Research Center.

Apparently there are good grassroots and bad grassroots, according to everyone on the left. Progressives attacked spontaneous disruptions of their thoughtful, intelligent town hall health care discussions, aka indoctrination. The attackers are the bad seeds of the grassroots movements, aka old people, not obedient to the health care manifesto.

President Obama and everyone on the left are fighting back against the bad seeds. The mantra is the old people are financed by the insurance companies, lobbyists and big money interests, like George Soros.

Perhaps a blind date (even though we know they are too old for him) should be arranged for George Soros and those big money donors on the right?

Sadly, such a meeting would end up in a no show, since George Soros is one of a kind. There is no George Soros on the right. The opposition is more spontaneous combustion than deliberate construction.

The mystery is how President Obama and everyone he likes think they can get away with the criticism of an authentic uprising as well financed and most puzzling, organized.

Aren't they smart enough? They think they are, you can see it in their videos. That smirk that says We won. Barack Obama got elected using double talk, disinformation and outright lies.

If it ain't broke, why fix it?
Hmmm....

Health Care for America NOW - About Us
Health Care for America Now and its principles for reform are supported by President Obama, Vice President Biden, and more than 190 Members of Congress. HCAN has more than 1,000 member organizations in 46 states. We are doctors, nurses, community organizations, labor unions, small business owners, faith-based groups, people of color, seniors, and children’s and women’s rights groups.

For the complete list of HCAN members, view our membership list.

Our Steering Committee includes: ACORN, AFL-CIO, AFSCME, AFT, Americans United for Change, Campaign for America’s Future, Center for American Progress Action Fund, Campaign for Community Change, Children’s Defense Fund Action Council, Communications Workers of America, International Union, United Automobile, Aerospace & Agricultural Implement Workers of America (UAW), MoveOn.org, NAACP, National Council of La Raza, National Education Association, National Women’s Law Center, SEIU, UFCW, USAction, Women's Voices, Women's Vote and Working America.

Capital Research Center: MoveOn.org
MoveOn.org
How Grassroots Activists Succeeded When Their Leaders Failed

By Sean Higgins | Aug 2009

The leftist advocacy group MoveOn.org is a well-oiled, well-funded propaganda machine. During the past decade it has done much to shape the Democratic Party’s agenda and advance the party’s electoral prospects. MoveOn was succeeding while the Democratic Party was failing in the late 1990s and early 2000s. Perhaps out-of-power conservatives today can learn something from its accomplishments.

 

[OneWorld]

didn't you already create a thread on this?

No, I did not. There was another video that someone posted on here that I posted inside of another thread, but completely different video (same topic).

 

[OneWorld]

Now I actually pulled up the website she was referring to in the video. Clicked on my state and here is the page that pulled up. Now where in this does it tell followers to disrupt town hall meetings and act pissed off? It doesn't.
Maryland Recess Rally : RECESS RALLY :: Nationwide Rally against Socialized Medicine
The default time and location for each of the Recess Rallies is Noon local time out in front of each of the 1000+ congressional offices. If you are unsure, you can just show up at the location. In the event there is a different location and time set for the event, that information will be listed beneath the specific district. If you are an organizer in your area and would like to be listed as a local contact, please contact us at

Were you looking for something like this:

GO TO TOWNHALL MEETINGS AND BEAT UP PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH YOU. YELL AT YOUR REPRESENTATIVE, THROW THINGS, AND BE DISRUPTIVE AS POSSIBLE SO THEY CAN'T GET THE FACTS TO YOU.

Is that what you were looking for?

They are feeding them false information (lies), riling them up, telling them where to show up at the townhalls, and in some cases busing people in.

They result will be obvious, and they know because they are artist at this. They orchestrated these things during 2000 elections, and countless other times.

 

[DiveCon]

didn't you already create a thread on this?

No, I did not. There was another video that someone posted on here that I posted inside of another thread, but completely different video (same topic).

ok, my bad

 

[DiveCon]

Now I actually pulled up the website she was referring to in the video. Clicked on my state and here is the page that pulled up. Now where in this does it tell followers to disrupt town hall meetings and act pissed off? It doesn't.
Maryland Recess Rally : RECESS RALLY :: Nationwide Rally against Socialized Medicine
The default time and location for each of the Recess Rallies is Noon local time out in front of each of the 1000+ congressional offices. If you are unsure, you can just show up at the location. In the event there is a different location and time set for the event, that information will be listed beneath the specific district. If you are an organizer in your area and would like to be listed as a local contact, please contact us at

Were you looking for something like this:

GO TO TOWNHALL MEETINGS AND BEAT UP PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH YOU. YELL AT YOUR REPRESENTATIVE, THROW THINGS, AND BE DISRUPTIVE AS POSSIBLE SO THEY CAN'T GET THE FACTS TO YOU.

Is that what you were looking for?

They are feeding them false information (lies), riling them up, telling them where to show up at the townhalls, and in some cases busing people in.

They result will be obvious, and they know because they are artist at this. They orchestrated these things during 2000 elections, and countless other times.

none of that has ever been substantiated

 

[jreeves]

Now I actually pulled up the website she was referring to in the video. Clicked on my state and here is the page that pulled up. Now where in this does it tell followers to disrupt town hall meetings and act pissed off? It doesn't.
Maryland Recess Rally : RECESS RALLY :: Nationwide Rally against Socialized Medicine
The default time and location for each of the Recess Rallies is Noon local time out in front of each of the 1000+ congressional offices. If you are unsure, you can just show up at the location. In the event there is a different location and time set for the event, that information will be listed beneath the specific district. If you are an organizer in your area and would like to be listed as a local contact, please contact us at

Were you looking for something like this:

GO TO TOWNHALL MEETINGS AND BEAT UP PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH YOU. YELL AT YOUR REPRESENTATIVE, THROW THINGS, AND BE DISRUPTIVE AS POSSIBLE SO THEY CAN'T GET THE FACTS TO YOU.

Is that what you were looking for?

They are feeding them false information (lies), riling them up, telling them where to show up at the townhalls, and in some cases busing people in.

They result will be obvious, and they know because they are artist at this. They orchestrated these things during 2000 elections, and countless other times.

Proof??

 

[OneWorld]

Health Care for America Now, one of those "grassroots" organizations Dems usually love, just got a lotta love - five million dollars worth - from the MoveOn.org financier. Greg Sargent's The Plum Line reports HCAN's effectiveness has been questioned, although HCAN is highly organized. Soros funds grassroots organizing for progressive causes and candidates.

MoveOn.org is a Soros favorite. Five million members financed Barack Obama's Presidential campaign. They've also been willing to donate on a dime, responding instantly to urgent appeals for money to support a variety of progressive causes.

MoveOn.org is a mouthpiece for progressive propagandizing, according to Capital Research Center.

Apparently there are good grassroots and bad grassroots, according to everyone on the left. Progressives attacked spontaneous disruptions of their thoughtful, intelligent town hall health care discussions, aka indoctrination. The attackers are the bad seeds of the grassroots movements, aka old people, not obedient to the health care manifesto.

President Obama and everyone on the left are fighting back against the bad seeds. The mantra is the old people are financed by the insurance companies, lobbyists and big money interests, like George Soros.

Give me an example of a moveon.org campaign that functioned like what the Republicans are doing.

And when you figure that out, I'm going to ask you something very serious, like what is the mis-information that the movement was given and how was it used.

Because there's a HUGE difference between funded movements that are protesting illegal wars/occupations, and a funded movement by the directly effected market involved that is spreading lies, and purposely trying to orchestrate chaos.

 

[OneWorld]

Now I actually pulled up the website she was referring to in the video. Clicked on my state and here is the page that pulled up. Now where in this does it tell followers to disrupt town hall meetings and act pissed off? It doesn't.
Maryland Recess Rally : RECESS RALLY :: Nationwide Rally against Socialized Medicine
The default time and location for each of the Recess Rallies is Noon local time out in front of each of the 1000+ congressional offices. If you are unsure, you can just show up at the location. In the event there is a different location and time set for the event, that information will be listed beneath the specific district. If you are an organizer in your area and would like to be listed as a local contact, please contact us at

Were you looking for something like this:

GO TO TOWNHALL MEETINGS AND BEAT UP PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH YOU. YELL AT YOUR REPRESENTATIVE, THROW THINGS, AND BE DISRUPTIVE AS POSSIBLE SO THEY CAN'T GET THE FACTS TO YOU.

Is that what you were looking for?

They are feeding them false information (lies), riling them up, telling them where to show up at the townhalls, and in some cases busing people in.

They result will be obvious, and they know because they are artist at this. They orchestrated these things during 2000 elections, and countless other times.

Proof??

Umm... watch the video.

This is a lie: Obama's health care plan has a death panel.

Would you like a list of your media sources that have spread this lie?

They spread the talking point lies, and tell them to go to these web sites.

 

[OneWorld]

none of that has ever been substantiated

Are you purposely ignoring the facts?

It has been proven many times over and over. Some of it is in that video. Type it in google and you'll find plenty more.

 

[jreeves]

Health Care for America Now, one of those "grassroots" organizations Dems usually love, just got a lotta love - five million dollars worth - from the MoveOn.org financier. Greg Sargent's The Plum Line reports HCAN's effectiveness has been questioned, although HCAN is highly organized. Soros funds grassroots organizing for progressive causes and candidates.

MoveOn.org is a Soros favorite. Five million members financed Barack Obama's Presidential campaign. They've also been willing to donate on a dime, responding instantly to urgent appeals for money to support a variety of progressive causes.

MoveOn.org is a mouthpiece for progressive propagandizing, according to Capital Research Center.

Apparently there are good grassroots and bad grassroots, according to everyone on the left. Progressives attacked spontaneous disruptions of their thoughtful, intelligent town hall health care discussions, aka indoctrination. The attackers are the bad seeds of the grassroots movements, aka old people, not obedient to the health care manifesto.

President Obama and everyone on the left are fighting back against the bad seeds. The mantra is the old people are financed by the insurance companies, lobbyists and big money interests, like George Soros.

Give me an example of a moveon.org campaign that functioned like what the Republicans are doing.

And when you figure that out, I'm going to ask you something very serious, like what is the mis-information that the movement was given and how was it used.

Because there's a HUGE difference between funded movements that are protesting illegal wars/occupations, and a funded movement by the directly effected market involved that is spreading lies, and purposely trying to orchestrate chaos.

I really don't know what you are referring to, exercising free speech?

BTW could you provide the link, that shows recess rally is funded by the health care industry? Other than Maddow or other leftist?

 

[jreeves]

Were you looking for something like this:

GO TO TOWNHALL MEETINGS AND BEAT UP PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH YOU. YELL AT YOUR REPRESENTATIVE, THROW THINGS, AND BE DISRUPTIVE AS POSSIBLE SO THEY CAN'T GET THE FACTS TO YOU.

Is that what you were looking for?

They are feeding them false information (lies), riling them up, telling them where to show up at the townhalls, and in some cases busing people in.

They result will be obvious, and they know because they are artist at this. They orchestrated these things during 2000 elections, and countless other times.

Proof??

Umm... watch the video.

This is a lie: Obama's health care plan has a death panel.

Would you like a list of your media sources that have spread this lie?

They spread the talking point lies, and tell them to go to these web sites.

A Panel that meets with people about end of life decisions, what would that be called? End of life aka death...

 

[DiveCon]

none of that has ever been substantiated

Are you purposely ignoring the facts?

It has been proven many times over and over. Some of it is in that video. Type it in google and you'll find plenty more.

i watched the video
they point out ONE person, thats it

 

[DiveCon]

Proof??

Umm... watch the video.

This is a lie: Obama's health care plan has a death panel.

Would you like a list of your media sources that have spread this lie?

They spread the talking point lies, and tell them to go to these web sites.

A Panel that meets with people about end of life decisions, what would that be called? End of life aka death...

common sense tells MOST people that

 

[OneWorld]

I really don't know what you are referring to, exercising free speech?

BTW could you provide the link, that shows recess rally is funded by the health care industry? Other than Maddow or other leftist?

I don't want to be rude, but are you playing dumb on purpose?

I will repeat one more time and spell it out slowly. How these republican groups are functioning:
Telling lies. Spreading talking point lies. Posting only democratic town hall meetings to their websites. Sending representatives to these meetings that are lying about their identities and disrupting Q&A. Bussing people into these meetings.

And no I won't because you can look it up if you care to know the truth. I really don't think you have an honest desire to do so though. You just want to confirm your belief over and over.

 

[OneWorld]

A Panel that meets with people about end of life decisions, what would that be called? End of life aka death...

The private insurance companies have this that exist today.

There is no panel in the Obama plan for God's sake. God, read it for yourself. I have read it several times. The only thing that exist is a provision for Medicare to counsel you about your end of life decisions (which you make) IF you want them to. That's it.

Would you like to concede that you are a mindless drone yet, just regurgitating Republican talking point lies?