The Real Meaning of the IRS Scandal: Anti-Rule of Law

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    Many people, including me, have noted that one of the biggest threats to our liberty is the growth of the fourth branch of government, the permanent bureaucracy. We're at the stage where the regulations created by the fourth branch significantly outnumber the laws passed by Congress...and the trend is to do end runs around Congress when the latter refuses to pass a law.

    The aspect to this which is most chilling is that under such regulations, the individual usually has to prove his innocence. As we see in the current IRS scandal, the bureaucrats are able to engage in expensive and intimidating witch hunts without a shred of real evidence. This voids the Rule of Law. It's no better than organized crime.

    The specific individuals in the IRS, DOJ, EPA etc abuses of power don't matter....the entire fourth branch is the problem.
     
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    The other problem is this 4th branch is overwhelmingly in favor of one party, the Democrats. This is for the simple reason that they know which party is in favor of bigger government, and bigger government means a bigger buracracy.
     
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    Indeed. That's why there is no so-called "smoking gun". The system itself is designed to take cues from political leaders...and it exists solely to perpetuate itself.
     
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    It's worse.

    Mobsters don't preach to you about how they're doing you a big fat favor with their meddling in your life.
     
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    Oh Snap! Yes, do gooder lecturers harping that it's for one's own good are worse.
     
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    You are sorta right but not in the way you think.

    The law states that 501 cs are exclusively to be involved in Social Welfare activities while the IRS regulation states that they are primarily to be involved in Social Welfare activities.

    The IRS and 501cs have been breaking the law for 50 years.

    I wonder if there will be a push to get all that uncollected tax revenue.

    :eusa_whistle:
     
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    Sallow, my friend. Trees, Forest, and all that.
     
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    The real meaning of the IRS scandal is that the IRS is the American version of the KGB. The value of citizens and their groups is determined by party loyalty.
     
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    Got news for you: BOTH Parties are for Big Government.

    Democrats want Government to control Business. (Communism)
    Republicans want Business to control Government. (Fascism)

    Do you see any thing about "The People controlling Government"? (Liberty, Freedom) When you vote for one party you vote to take away your freedoms.

    The rhetoric is different but the goals are the same.
     
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    It is unconstitutional for bureaucrats to write laws. The first words of the constitution after the preamble are

    "All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives."

    Likewise with laws written by the SCOTUS.
     

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