The Real Cause of This War

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    So many people are trying to analyze why there's been such a huge explosion of violence in the Middle East. There's been hatred and animosity for years, so why only now does it break out into yet another full scale war?

    Democrats and other peaceniks are blaming Bush foreign policy of all things, as well as how 'cruel' Israel is to the 'Palestinians.'

    First off, let's get one thing straight. There's two sides to this war: Israel and bloodthirsty barbarians. Hamas and Hezbollah have publicly stated that their sworn goal is the eradication of Israel. Everything they do is towards that end. Every time they pretend to toss that goal aside is only an attempt to buy them time to prepare for yet another homocidal assault on Israel...usually against civilians.

    So, what is the true cause of this war, you ask? Let's take a look. One of the main reasons the terrorists don't attack Israel openly a lot is because it's HARD. Israel, out of sheer necessity, is absolutely vicious on defense, and suicide bombers, more often than not, get gunned down before they get to murder all the poor Jewish kids. What they were doing recently with these 'negotiations' was bide their time, looking for the opportune moment. Then, it appeared to come. Israel publicly stated that they were 'tired' of the fighting and conceded the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. 'Tired,' huh? Well, the terrorists took that to mean 'weak,' and began to prepare. Now, they're in full jihad mode and trying to finish what Israel started by conceding land to the barbarians. The 'official' governments of the countries they're from are taking advantage of another 'weakness,' our willingness to negotiate with them. Lebanon, Hamas, and Syria have said that they're not responsible for the actions of the terrorists, all the while funding them and letting them set up headquarters and rocket batteries on their land. It doesn't matter how ludicrous this claim is, the peaceniks again show the terrorrists their weakness by condemning Israel's attacks. Even the hawks among us are encouraging 'restraint.' Then there's the third weakness. The barbarians have watched us as the news is so quick to condemn the U.S. military and Israel for 'civilian' casualties, even going to far as to include ununiformed combatants to skew their statistics. The being said, Hamas and Hezbollah are setting up rockets and headquarters in the middle of residential areas so that any attempt to destroy them will result in civilians. The civilians end up on the evening news. The international community condemns Israel. Nobody comes to their aid.

    The terrorrists have seen our weaknesses and instead of trying to embrace peace, which is what so many claim their religion means, they are taking advantage of every chink in our armor. If Israel goes down, Europe is next. The barbarians see them as ripe for the picking, just like in the fourth century. Just watch.
     
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    Crusades II - Finishing the Job...
     
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    I think it would be easier to take out Europe now and leave Israel for later. i mean they already have tons of immigrants in European nations who would be supportive.
     
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    But they don't hate Europe as much as they hate Israel.
     
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    They can't take out Israel.
     
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    In retrospect, if they do, then it's the apocalypse and Europe is the least of our troubles. Still, Europe needs to watch out for itself. If God doesn't bless the Israelis in this conflict, then the Muslims, energized by their victory over Israel, will roll over Europe like so many armies before them.
     
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    Hobbit--they can't do it. Arab leaders peck at it to appear to be strong to the Islamic masses. It's like saying you are pro-abortion to get the democratic vote.
     
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    Pretty much there is no chance in Hell of even the combined Arab forces defeating the Israeli army. Why? Two words: Air Power.
     
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    We now know who the liberal media is rooting for...............


    Mitchell: Hezbollah Chief 'Charismatic Leader' & 'Populist' Who 'Provides Social Services'
    Posted by Brent Baker on July 17, 2006 - 21:07.

    NBC's Andrea Mitchell asked on Monday's NBC Nightly News: “What is Hezbollah and what is its end game?” Mitchell first answered that “experts say to prove it can damage Israel in ways Arab countries couldn't.” But then she proceeded to refer to “Hezbollah's charismatic leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah,” also describing him as “a Shiite populist” who she relayed, over video of kids, “provides social services where Lebanon's weak new government cannot.” Mitchell refrained from labeling Hezbollah as “terrorist” -- or mentioning how its real "end game" is the destruction of Israel -- going no further than to say it “operates militias." (Transcripts follows)

    The MRC's Brad Wilmouth corrected the closed-captioning against the video to provide this transcript of the July 17 “In Depth” NBC Nightly News piece on what Hezbollah, Iran, Syria and Israel hope to “get” out of the conflict:


    Anchor Brian Williams, in Israel: "Back with you from Tel Aviv where today here we were given a mostly off-the-record briefing by a high-ranking Israeli General mostly on Hezbollah and this current military campaign. The General described them as very capable and very dangerous. But what else is known about the other side in this conflict? More tonight 'In Depth' from our chief foreign affairs correspondent Andrea Mitchell."

    Andrea Mitchell, from Washington, DC: "As Hezbollah rockets reach farther into Israel, what is Hezbollah and what is its end game? Experts say to prove it can damage Israel in ways Arab countries couldn't. Since Syria was forced out of Lebanon a year and a half ago, Hezbollah's charismatic leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah has become Lebanon's best known and most controversial politician. A Shiite populist, Nasrallah provides social services where Lebanon's weak new government cannot, has ministers in the cabinet and operates militias."

    Martin Indyk, former U.S. Ambassador to Israel: "It has developed a terrorist cadre, an international terrorist infrastructure, and a powerful militia with weapons and capabilities provided by Iran and Syria."

    Mitchell: "What does Iran get out of this fight? It gets a proxy war that damages Israel and tells the world: Don't get too aggressive in the nuclear showdown."

    Daniel Benjamin, terrorism analyst: "I think that's very clearly one of the messages we're getting here: Don't mess with us, you'll pay a big price."

    Mitchell: "Syria also has an end game to reassert control through Hezbollah of Lebanon's fledgling democracy. But what does Israel get out of this conflict?"

    Benjamin: "They need to show that this cannot stand. Israel simply can't leave its citizens undefended in the face of all these missiles."

    Mitchell: "And why has the U.S. given Israel a green light? Experts say since the administration won't deal with Iran or Syria, having Israel fight Hezbollah is the only way to control the terror group and indirectly strike a blow at its chief sponsor, Iran. The risk? Instead of helping Lebanon's government crack down on Hezbollah, Israel's barrage could cause that government to collapse, creating even more danger for Israel. Andrea Mitchell, NBC News at the State Department."

    http://newsbusters.org/node/6459
     

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