Karateka
Rookie
How is asking questions "spouting shit?" Are you always this rude, or is it only when you don't have answers to relatively simple questions at hand?
mentioning what other nations pay for health care whether it be as a part of their GNP or taxes or whatever is spouting shit because it is usually taken out of all context and oput out as a red herring.
Excuse me, but you're the one who provided the "Five Democratic Countries" link - Vast LWC was talking about Canada, therefore, I was talking about Canada. We were comparing how they do it to how WE do it. If that's "spouting shit," then you need to pay closer attention to the context of the discussion he and I were having, thank you very much.
And while I would absolutely agree that given the chance, we could come up with some great solutions, we will likely never get that chance because it is in the hands of people who want to keep the power they have acquired. The promise of healthcare reform is now being used as a carrot; once the healthcare reform is passed, it will become more and more a government controlled object, and come election time, it will start being used not as a stick, but as a threat - vote for us, or the evil Republicans will take your healthcare away, and you'll all die. You can take it to the bank.