The quality of threads and debates has dropped on this board

[Procrustes Stretched]

Oops those thread creators are all right wingers...

Is Gramps calling for the righties here to be more civil/above-board in their threads

Are you being intelectually dishonest or retarded?

He didn't say he didn't like those threads.

anyone with critical thinking skills can read between the lines.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Is Gramps calling for the righties here to be more civil/above-board in their threads

Are you being intelectually dishonest or retarded?

He didn't say he didn't like those threads.

anyone with critical thinking skills can read between the lines.

No need to speak for me. I haven't clicked on those threads so i have no opinion of them.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Are you being intelectually dishonest or retarded?

He didn't say he didn't like those threads.

anyone with critical thinking skills can read between the lines.

No need to speak for me. I haven't clicked on those threads so i have no opinion of them.

interpretation is in the eye of the beholder. it's like writing a law. the author does not get to say what the law means. happens all the time. people write things that contain interpretations and meanings that go beyond the original intent.

true story

 

[Rocko]

anyone with critical thinking skills can read between the lines.

No need to speak for me. I haven't clicked on those threads so i have no opinion of them.

interpretation is in the eye of the beholder. it's like writing a law. the author does not get to say what the law means. happens all the time. people write things that contain interpretations and meanings that go beyond the original intent.

true story

so you get to tell people what they're thinking, based on no evidence??

cmon Dante

 

[Big Fitz]

Used to be really fun to debate on here. Is this a normal decline around election time? There are so many Jerry Springer style topics now that earnest debate is rare unless a thread is derailed.

Election years always suck with the shills, frauds and hacks that come in, last a few months (if that long) and are gone, with their party's victory or defeat.

Needless to say, every year it seems after the election cycle, the debate level does not recover to where it was before either. The nation is polarizing, and less interested in anything but the utter defeat of their political enemies.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

No need to speak for me. I haven't clicked on those threads so i have no opinion of them.

interpretation is in the eye of the beholder. it's like writing a law. the author does not get to say what the law means. happens all the time. people write things that contain interpretations and meanings that go beyond the original intent.

true story

so you get to tell people what they're thinking, based on no evidence??

cmon Dante

what they're thinking? where did you get that? critical thinking skill set left at home?

when people write things their words often have more meaning than they intended. ever see what happens when legislators write a law and then complain that what is interpreted is not what they meant?

take the day off


dD

 

[Rocko]

interpretation is in the eye of the beholder. it's like writing a law. the author does not get to say what the law means. happens all the time. people write things that contain interpretations and meanings that go beyond the original intent.

true story

so you get to tell people what they're thinking, based on no evidence??

cmon Dante

what they're thinking? where did you get that? critical thinking skill set left at home?

when people write things their words often have more meaning than they intended. ever see what happens when legislators write a law and then complain that what is interpreted is not what they meant?

take the day off

dD

Didn't know you where my boss. I quit. I don't want to work for a dishonest piece of shit.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

so you get to tell people what they're thinking, based on no evidence??

cmon Dante

what they're thinking? where did you get that? critical thinking skill set left at home?

when people write things their words often have more meaning than they intended. ever see what happens when legislators write a law and then complain that what is interpreted is not what they meant?

take the day off

dD

Didn't know you where my boss. I quit. I don't want to work for a dishonest piece of shit.

and please stay principled, don't file for that socialist piece of shit known as unemployment benefits. don't lose your freedom, stay free. die like a man.

 

[Rocko]

what they're thinking? where did you get that? critical thinking skill set left at home?

when people write things their words often have more meaning than they intended. ever see what happens when legislators write a law and then complain that what is interpreted is not what they meant?

take the day off

dD

Didn't know you where my boss. I quit. I don't want to work for a dishonest piece of shit.

and please stay principled, don't file for that socialist piece of shit known as unemployment benefits. don't lose your freedom, stay free. die like a man.

that was very funny actually.

 

[Rocko]

But if I quit I can't file for UE. You need to do a better job of critical thinking..

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

but if i quit i can't file for ue. You need to do a better job of critical thinking..

lol

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

"You suck at debate!"

"No. YOU suck at debate."

"No. I post meaningful threads and you derail them to avoid being exposed."

"No! You!"

Add a little highlighting, larger font size, color, some centering (if you don't have She-male on ignore, that is), a smiley or two and maybe an image or video and POW, there you have it.

I have spoken.

Well, written, actually. But you get the gist.

You paid hack! You government agent. We demand the truth be heard.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

But if I quit I can't file for UE. You need to do a better job of critical thinking..

see? you really are a conservative tool. In many states that favor workers, you can quit and then claim it was a forced resignation under duress or because of some violation of labor laws. you get a hearing. seriously. been there done that. I'm a pink diaper baby on steroids.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

but if i quit i can't file for ue. You need to do a better job of critical thinking..

lol

see teh above post. you ain't so smaht.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Used to be really fun to debate on here. Is this a normal decline around election time? There are so many Jerry Springer style topics now that earnest debate is rare unless a thread is derailed.

I have posted in multiple threads asking those on the Right to explain their ideas and positions so we could discuss them, and seldom do they ever. You're guilty of that in fact.

I think if you want to have a better level of debate, then start by personally offering a better level of debate.

You have been beaten down in those threads as a matter of fact.

 

[Rocko]

But if I quit I can't file for UE. You need to do a better job of critical thinking..

see? you really are a conservative tool. In many states that favor workers, you can quit and then claim it was a forced resignation under duress or because of some violation of labor laws. you get a hearing. seriously. been there done that. I'm a pink diaper baby on steroids.

so you admit you're an asshole boss.

 

[Katiegrrl0]

The reason for this might be that most are so rooted in their beliefs they will not even hear another side. The debate quickly turns to I am correct and you are wrong. This is not debate. Considerable understanding is required in debate and the more one understands the position of their opponent the better the quality of the discussion.
If we only hear one side (the side we agree with) we learn nothing and grow ignorant. In hearing both sides one can make an educated choice on a topic.
It comes down to lack of hearing.
I also find there are a considerable number of people who do not understand the meanings of the terms they use. That represents an intellectual gap and makes it impossible to have excellent discussion or debate.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

but if i quit i can't file for ue. You need to do a better job of critical thinking..

lol

see teh above post. you ain't so smaht.

That's way too many hoops to jump through. Wouldn't it just be easier to find another job?

Just a thought

 

[candycorn]

The reason for this might be that most are so rooted in their beliefs they will not even hear another side. The debate quickly turns to I am correct and you are wrong. This is not debate. Considerable understanding is required in debate and the more one understands the position of their opponent the better the quality of the discussion.
If we only hear one side (the side we agree with) we learn nothing and grow ignorant. In hearing both sides one can make an educated choice on a topic.
It comes down to lack of hearing.
I also find there are a considerable number of people who do not understand the meanings of the terms they use. That represents an intellectual gap and makes it impossible to have excellent discussion or debate.

What do I hear most often about my "middle of the road" views? It hasn't been said here that I know of but often times I'm told that there is nothing in the middle except a long stripe; painted yellow. I guess they are inferring that I'm scared to take a stand or something. LOL.

You're right for the most part. I would take issue with your "lack of hearing" comment. I don't think it is a lack of hearing; I think people on both sides are intellectually dishonest with themselves.

Warrior said that Bush gave up golf during the Gulf War. There are videos--I posted them--of him saying "watch this drive" then Teeing off. The result? No retraction, no apology, nothing. Obviously, this wasn't some sort of stunning exposee on my part; the whole world knew it. Bripat said, "You need to get shot at to have combat pay." I showed him where it wasn't the case at all. Still he sticks by the error (or lie if you will) he made.

As for "lack of hearing", you're right in some cases. People assume they are right about everything and seek not to understand but demand to be understood.

 

[Katiegrrl0]

The reason for this might be that most are so rooted in their beliefs they will not even hear another side. The debate quickly turns to I am correct and you are wrong. This is not debate. Considerable understanding is required in debate and the more one understands the position of their opponent the better the quality of the discussion.
If we only hear one side (the side we agree with) we learn nothing and grow ignorant. In hearing both sides one can make an educated choice on a topic.
It comes down to lack of hearing.
I also find there are a considerable number of people who do not understand the meanings of the terms they use. That represents an intellectual gap and makes it impossible to have excellent discussion or debate.

What do I hear most often about my "middle of the road" views? It hasn't been said here that I know of but often times I'm told that there is nothing in the middle except a long stripe; painted yellow. I guess they are inferring that I'm scared to take a stand or something. LOL.

You're right for the most part. I would take issue with your "lack of hearing" comment. I don't think it is a lack of hearing; I think people on both sides are intellectually dishonest with themselves.

Warrior said that Bush gave up golf during the Gulf War. There are videos--I posted them--of him saying "watch this drive" then Teeing off. The result? No retraction, no apology, nothing. Obviously, this wasn't some sort of stunning exposee on my part; the whole world knew it. Bripat said, "You need to get shot at to have combat pay." I showed him where it wasn't the case at all. Still he sticks by the error (or lie if you will) he made.

As for "lack of hearing", you're right in some cases. People assume they are right about everything and seek not to understand but demand to be understood.

I am speaking about both sides when it comes to "lack of hearing", and it doesn't go for everyone. There are those who will never hear. Your term "intellectually dishonest" is very true.