The Push to Censor Half of America is ON!!!!!

You seem to think encouraging people that either the Germ isn't a big deal or that we can't do anything to stop it, is somehow essential to our civil liberties?


Like I said.. THe theories and actions have been tested by about 63 countries around the globe. They ALL FAILED.. Maybe we CANT "stop it". Or promise to "SHUT IT DOWN" like Biden did without a vaccine and better tools.. Just like MAYBE -- we can't STOP GWarming and MAYBE there's no impending doom. Just a problem to be worked.

For DECADES doctors flipped/flopped over how to bed a baby.. back, stomach, side.

For a century our theories about land masses moving was completely wrong until Techtonic theory took hold in about the 1920s.

For 30 years, we believed GWarming was the SOLE CAUSE of glacial melting and acceleration in Western coastal Antarctica. Until about 3 years ago when it was discovered that the volcanic rifts BELOW the glaciers were ACTUALLY ACTIVE.. So the irony of spending $TRILLS trying to reduce the risk of flooding most of Florida and the subways in NYC by decreasing CO2 would be that someday SOON -- we'll be told that those glaciers are shooting lava 300 ft above the rifts. And we have maybe ONE YEAR to fix that..

This is all goes back to my Unified Theory about why you and I think differently.. Major different between the left and the REST of America is that RISK is a dirty word.. Leftists want the power to REMOVE risk from every facet of life. They BELIEVE that's possible..

When in the REAL world -- risk is something to be MANAGED and ESSENTIAL to a thriving country or population.. Like the RISK that corporations, investors and small biz owners take every day..

To a scientist/engineer -- risk analysis is just part of the job.. To a leftist it's a bunch of laws and money that haven't been written yet or spent.
Regardless of your obvious passionate feelings about all this, you don't know better than the epidemiologists of the world. Sorry. And doing the typical "This is what the Left thinks" is not appreciated.

I would suggest that you've committed a logical fallacy here. Those who are non-politically advocating mask usage do so using studies they admit are not that good. This isn't to say they don't work. It's just to say there is nothing hugely convincing (yet) that they do. And many things printed about masks these days are very politically slanted. Just sayin'......my main point is next.

As to what the left or right thinks....regarding COVID and masks isn't the point of this thread and I can't sort out the issue for all this smoke.
 
Should WE be CANCELED by all the hands strangling free expression in America right now?
With rights come responsibilities, a willingness to evaluate how our actions affect others. There is a pandemic that is killing people, putting people in the hospital, multiplying exponentially again. You seem to think encouraging people that either the Germ isn't a big deal or that we can't do anything to stop it, is somehow essential to our civil liberties? Our survival as a nation? The top epidemiologists in the world are working their asses off to save us, and you are advocating Tom, Dick and Harry telling us they're full of shit because RIGHTS.

I don't agree.

I don't see how he encouraged anything.

And since you don't know if that has anything to do with the Conservative Treehouse being deplatformed, I wonder how you can expect to make this argument.

Covid certainly was not mentioned in the justification by WordPress to deplatform.. But I believe that OF COURSE -- some aspects of Covid WERE covered by Sundance.. It's a blog.. The REAL CONTENT GENERATOR and OWNER is one person.. The "comment sections" under every article are HEAVILY moderated.. But by specific and PUBLISHED rules.

And to be rigorous about this -- the site makes it CLEAR that it IS a Conservative "refuge" and discourages all others from joining in.. This is DIFFERENT than Twitter, FB, and now Wordpress which not only HOSTS the site -- but apparently now will just jettison anyone THEY disagree with.

It's possible that's the reason WordPress is shutting them down.. Because of "irreconcilable" differences of opinion and the BLATANT partisanship of the moderation at CTH..

If that's the case -- we all would like to see that enforced for all blogs on WordPress that discriminate in who they have as members in their comment sections.

Yes...this gets to the point of your OP.

And thank you.

The idea it is related to a specific issue is (as Old Lady says) guessing.

I am still looking to understand the site itself.

I can't seem to navigate it very well.
 
First off -- I've never logged on to Conservative Treehouse blog.. Never actually even lurked there. I know about it only because my wife is a member there and spends 2 or 3 hours a day on that site.. Today the blogger who runs with name Sundance announced that CTH will be deplatformed by 1st week December.

CTH is one of highest volume Conservative blog sites in the country. They like to be a "refuge" for conservative speech and opinion.. They do PRUNE their members. That's their RIGHT to do so.. Of all the stuff I've read from there -- it's high quality research and analysis and the members are FAR BETTER behaved and civil than on USMB.. :stir: The excuse given was completely nebulous.. It reads like "we're not compatible with your content and opinions". And the move was announced after Sundance pulled together some strings on the strength of "one world" globalists that NOW feel empowered to act..

They have a HUGE PROBLEM.. Which is the Wordpress business model.. Their site is DESIGNED to suck in wantabee bloggers with low rent and services -- but like Hotel California -- "You can never leave".. Because their site is based on open sourced S/ware that incompatible with most other hosting.. I looked into WordPress -- and I would never make that mistake..

So now with decades of content and discussion -- the left is moving them to wander towards Siberia and the "camps".. And essentially confiscating their work.

IMO -- half of America is NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE.. I imagine the right will learn to protest and organize and WHINE about free speech that makes THEM uncomfortable. Good possibility that WordPress will have several thousand people picketing and protest.. It's the last stand before the war goes hot.., The doxxing and canceling and deplatforming and shadow banning and fact checking goes both ways.. It's just that the OTHER HALF is gonna have to invest in their OWN resources.. And there's plenty of money and skill to do just that... With THAT effort -- the polarization reaches nuclear warfare potential...

So much for Biden's plea that NOW the left wants to heal the country.. I'm CERTAIN that high elements of the left power elite are involved in selecting the targets here.. And we'll SEE THAT when Biden packs his "potential" administration with same tyrannical high tech oligarchs..

Ignorant nonsense.

No one is ‘playing Nazi.’

Private websites, hosting platforms, and blogging software developers are at liberty to edit their content as they see fit – where such editing is in no manner ‘censorship.’

The internet is infinite; conservatives have ample other online opportunities to spread their ignorance, fear, hate, and lies – this being one of many examples.

Such name calling is foolish.

Why would they be deplatformed ? If you can start with the answer to that question, it would be useful.
No name calling – the thread premise is ignorant nonsense.

Why Conservative Treehouse is being deplatformed has nothing to do with ‘censorship’ or ‘Nazis.’

As a private entity WordPress is not required to provide an explanation as to why – however wrong, capricious, or unwarranted that decision might be perceived to be by conservatives.

The remedy is for conservatives to find another hosting site.

Of course, conservatives will continue to pursue the false narrative of rightwing victimhood.
Ok bright BOY, name ONE left leaning site that has ever been shut down, deplatformed or censored. One will do.

Careful -- they MAY have shutdown one or two.. I'd ask for about 20.. :biggrin: Considering that the Conservative casualties are now in the THOUSANDS if not 10s of THOUSANDS.. Score is about 115,000 to 24 by my reckoning.
 
You seem to think encouraging people that either the Germ isn't a big deal or that we can't do anything to stop it, is somehow essential to our civil liberties?


Like I said.. THe theories and actions have been tested by about 63 countries around the globe. They ALL FAILED.. Maybe we CANT "stop it". Or promise to "SHUT IT DOWN" like Biden did without a vaccine and better tools.. Just like MAYBE -- we can't STOP GWarming and MAYBE there's no impending doom. Just a problem to be worked.

For DECADES doctors flipped/flopped over how to bed a baby.. back, stomach, side.

For a century our theories about land masses moving was completely wrong until Techtonic theory took hold in about the 1920s.

For 30 years, we believed GWarming was the SOLE CAUSE of glacial melting and acceleration in Western coastal Antarctica. Until about 3 years ago when it was discovered that the volcanic rifts BELOW the glaciers were ACTUALLY ACTIVE.. So the irony of spending $TRILLS trying to reduce the risk of flooding most of Florida and the subways in NYC by decreasing CO2 would be that someday SOON -- we'll be told that those glaciers are shooting lava 300 ft above the rifts. And we have maybe ONE YEAR to fix that..

This is all goes back to my Unified Theory about why you and I think differently.. Major different between the left and the REST of America is that RISK is a dirty word.. Leftists want the power to REMOVE risk from every facet of life. They BELIEVE that's possible..

When in the REAL world -- risk is something to be MANAGED and ESSENTIAL to a thriving country or population.. Like the RISK that corporations, investors and small biz owners take every day..

To a scientist/engineer -- risk analysis is just part of the job.. To a leftist it's a bunch of laws and money that haven't been written yet or spent.
Regardless of your obvious passionate feelings about all this, you don't know better than the epidemiologists of the world. Sorry. And doing the typical "This is what the Left thinks" is not appreciated.

What have i contradicted about the "epidemiologists" of the world here? And have i just done MORE DAMAGE to the public good than the epidemologists at W.H.O. who waffled on masks when this whole thing began??

You never answer my questions? Why is that? I asked whether USMB should be strangled to death in the public good because WE allow cranks from BOTH SIDES to spread rumors and promulgate dangerous theories about Russian dossiers and crap?? I asked several.. GOt NO answers.. I'm answering you..

Simply stated the answer to your question is NO.

I try to stay away from the flash zone (politics) as it is simply not worth much except for people to talk past each other in ugly terms.

Other forums are much more meaningful.
 
First off -- I've never logged on to Conservative Treehouse blog.. Never actually even lurked there. I know about it only because my wife is a member there and spends 2 or 3 hours a day on that site.. Today the blogger who runs with name Sundance announced that CTH will be deplatformed by 1st week December.

CTH is one of highest volume Conservative blog sites in the country. They like to be a "refuge" for conservative speech and opinion.. They do PRUNE their members. That's their RIGHT to do so.. Of all the stuff I've read from there -- it's high quality research and analysis and the members are FAR BETTER behaved and civil than on USMB.. :stir: The excuse given was completely nebulous.. It reads like "we're not compatible with your content and opinions". And the move was announced after Sundance pulled together some strings on the strength of "one world" globalists that NOW feel empowered to act..

They have a HUGE PROBLEM.. Which is the Wordpress business model.. Their site is DESIGNED to suck in wantabee bloggers with low rent and services -- but like Hotel California -- "You can never leave".. Because their site is based on open sourced S/ware that incompatible with most other hosting.. I looked into WordPress -- and I would never make that mistake..

So now with decades of content and discussion -- the left is moving them to wander towards Siberia and the "camps".. And essentially confiscating their work.

IMO -- half of America is NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE.. I imagine the right will learn to protest and organize and WHINE about free speech that makes THEM uncomfortable. Good possibility that WordPress will have several thousand people picketing and protest.. It's the last stand before the war goes hot.., The doxxing and canceling and deplatforming and shadow banning and fact checking goes both ways.. It's just that the OTHER HALF is gonna have to invest in their OWN resources.. And there's plenty of money and skill to do just that... With THAT effort -- the polarization reaches nuclear warfare potential...

So much for Biden's plea that NOW the left wants to heal the country.. I'm CERTAIN that high elements of the left power elite are involved in selecting the targets here.. And we'll SEE THAT when Biden packs his "potential" administration with same tyrannical high tech oligarchs..

Ignorant nonsense.

No one is ‘playing Nazi.’

Private websites, hosting platforms, and blogging software developers are at liberty to edit their content as they see fit – where such editing is in no manner ‘censorship.’

The internet is infinite; conservatives have ample other online opportunities to spread their ignorance, fear, hate, and lies – this being one of many examples.

Such name calling is foolish.

Why would they be deplatformed ? If you can start with the answer to that question, it would be useful.
No name calling – the thread premise is ignorant nonsense.

Why Conservative Treehouse is being deplatformed has nothing to do with ‘censorship’ or ‘Nazis.’

As a private entity WordPress is not required to provide an explanation as to why – however wrong, capricious, or unwarranted that decision might be perceived to be by conservatives.

The remedy is for conservatives to find another hosting site.

Of course, conservatives will continue to pursue the false narrative of rightwing victimhood.
Ok bright BOY, name ONE left leaning site that has ever been shut down, deplatformed or censored. One will do.

Careful -- they MAY have shutdown one or two.. I'd ask for about 20.. :biggrin: Considering that the Conservative casualties are now in the THOUSANDS if not 10s of THOUSANDS.. Score is about 115,000 to 24 by my reckoning.

What are you talking about ? 10,000 what ...sites or individual bloggers ?
 
First off -- I've never logged on to Conservative Treehouse blog.. Never actually even lurked there. I know about it only because my wife is a member there and spends 2 or 3 hours a day on that site.. Today the blogger who runs with name Sundance announced that CTH will be deplatformed by 1st week December.

CTH is one of highest volume Conservative blog sites in the country. They like to be a "refuge" for conservative speech and opinion.. They do PRUNE their members. That's their RIGHT to do so.. Of all the stuff I've read from there -- it's high quality research and analysis and the members are FAR BETTER behaved and civil than on USMB.. :stir: The excuse given was completely nebulous.. It reads like "we're not compatible with your content and opinions". And the move was announced after Sundance pulled together some strings on the strength of "one world" globalists that NOW feel empowered to act..

They have a HUGE PROBLEM.. Which is the Wordpress business model.. Their site is DESIGNED to suck in wantabee bloggers with low rent and services -- but like Hotel California -- "You can never leave".. Because their site is based on open sourced S/ware that incompatible with most other hosting.. I looked into WordPress -- and I would never make that mistake..

So now with decades of content and discussion -- the left is moving them to wander towards Siberia and the "camps".. And essentially confiscating their work.

IMO -- half of America is NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE.. I imagine the right will learn to protest and organize and WHINE about free speech that makes THEM uncomfortable. Good possibility that WordPress will have several thousand people picketing and protest.. It's the last stand before the war goes hot.., The doxxing and canceling and deplatforming and shadow banning and fact checking goes both ways.. It's just that the OTHER HALF is gonna have to invest in their OWN resources.. And there's plenty of money and skill to do just that... With THAT effort -- the polarization reaches nuclear warfare potential...

So much for Biden's plea that NOW the left wants to heal the country.. I'm CERTAIN that high elements of the left power elite are involved in selecting the targets here.. And we'll SEE THAT when Biden packs his "potential" administration with same tyrannical high tech oligarchs..

Ignorant nonsense.

No one is ‘playing Nazi.’

Private websites, hosting platforms, and blogging software developers are at liberty to edit their content as they see fit – where such editing is in no manner ‘censorship.’

The internet is infinite; conservatives have ample other online opportunities to spread their ignorance, fear, hate, and lies – this being one of many examples.

Such name calling is foolish.

Why would they be deplatformed ? If you can start with the answer to that question, it would be useful.
No name calling – the thread premise is ignorant nonsense.

Why Conservative Treehouse is being deplatformed has nothing to do with ‘censorship’ or ‘Nazis.’

As a private entity WordPress is not required to provide an explanation as to why – however wrong, capricious, or unwarranted that decision might be perceived to be by conservatives.

The remedy is for conservatives to find another hosting site.

Of course, conservatives will continue to pursue the false narrative of rightwing victimhood.
Ok bright BOY, name ONE left leaning site that has ever been shut down, deplatformed or censored. One will do.
Exactly do you know how many sites I have been baned from in the past 30 years?

It must be over 100 by now.

We subpoenaed all their records during an extensive background check.. It's actually only 73.. Not counting temp bans. You exaggerate...
 
Believe me.....

I am all for a site that is respected and does thorough investigation.

I'd love to participate in that or help if I could.
 
Should WE be CANCELED by all the hands strangling free expression in America right now?
With rights come responsibilities, a willingness to evaluate how our actions affect others. There is a pandemic that is killing people, putting people in the hospital, multiplying exponentially again. You seem to think encouraging people that either the Germ isn't a big deal or that we can't do anything to stop it, is somehow essential to our civil liberties? Our survival as a nation? The top epidemiologists in the world are working their asses off to save us, and you are advocating Tom, Dick and Harry telling us they're full of shit because RIGHTS.

I don't agree.

I don't see how he encouraged anything.

And since you don't know if that has anything to do with the Conservative Treehouse being deplatformed, I wonder how you can expect to make this argument.
This is from CTH, I believe:
The content on these pages is simply an ongoing discussion about freedom with criticism against any political party or entity that diminishes it. Apparently, immediately after the 2020 election, that discussion became problematic. After writing about the COVID-19 agenda,…the notification: the website will be removed.


It's what made me wonder if it had to do with Covid and voter fraud.
 
First off -- I've never logged on to Conservative Treehouse blog.. Never actually even lurked there. I know about it only because my wife is a member there and spends 2 or 3 hours a day on that site.. Today the blogger who runs with name Sundance announced that CTH will be deplatformed by 1st week December.

CTH is one of highest volume Conservative blog sites in the country. They like to be a "refuge" for conservative speech and opinion.. They do PRUNE their members. That's their RIGHT to do so.. Of all the stuff I've read from there -- it's high quality research and analysis and the members are FAR BETTER behaved and civil than on USMB.. :stir: The excuse given was completely nebulous.. It reads like "we're not compatible with your content and opinions". And the move was announced after Sundance pulled together some strings on the strength of "one world" globalists that NOW feel empowered to act..

They have a HUGE PROBLEM.. Which is the Wordpress business model.. Their site is DESIGNED to suck in wantabee bloggers with low rent and services -- but like Hotel California -- "You can never leave".. Because their site is based on open sourced S/ware that incompatible with most other hosting.. I looked into WordPress -- and I would never make that mistake..

So now with decades of content and discussion -- the left is moving them to wander towards Siberia and the "camps".. And essentially confiscating their work.

IMO -- half of America is NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE.. I imagine the right will learn to protest and organize and WHINE about free speech that makes THEM uncomfortable. Good possibility that WordPress will have several thousand people picketing and protest.. It's the last stand before the war goes hot.., The doxxing and canceling and deplatforming and shadow banning and fact checking goes both ways.. It's just that the OTHER HALF is gonna have to invest in their OWN resources.. And there's plenty of money and skill to do just that... With THAT effort -- the polarization reaches nuclear warfare potential...

So much for Biden's plea that NOW the left wants to heal the country.. I'm CERTAIN that high elements of the left power elite are involved in selecting the targets here.. And we'll SEE THAT when Biden packs his "potential" administration with same tyrannical high tech oligarchs..

Ignorant nonsense.

No one is ‘playing Nazi.’

Private websites, hosting platforms, and blogging software developers are at liberty to edit their content as they see fit – where such editing is in no manner ‘censorship.’

The internet is infinite; conservatives have ample other online opportunities to spread their ignorance, fear, hate, and lies – this being one of many examples.

Such name calling is foolish.

Why would they be deplatformed ? If you can start with the answer to that question, it would be useful.
No name calling – the thread premise is ignorant nonsense.

Why Conservative Treehouse is being deplatformed has nothing to do with ‘censorship’ or ‘Nazis.’

As a private entity WordPress is not required to provide an explanation as to why – however wrong, capricious, or unwarranted that decision might be perceived to be by conservatives.

The remedy is for conservatives to find another hosting site.

Of course, conservatives will continue to pursue the false narrative of rightwing victimhood.
Ok bright BOY, name ONE left leaning site that has ever been shut down, deplatformed or censored. One will do.

Careful -- they MAY have shutdown one or two.. I'd ask for about 20.. :biggrin: Considering that the Conservative casualties are now in the THOUSANDS if not 10s of THOUSANDS.. Score is about 115,000 to 24 by my reckoning.

What are you talking about ? 10,000 what ...sites or individual bloggers ?

The victims of SoshMedia include congress people, journalists, entire newspapers, political advocacy groups. It was just a guess based on how BLANTANT and PREVALENT this has become. In fact, with the practice of "SHADOW BANNING" -- a lot of folks CAN'T tell when their mic has been turned off..

But like always -- It's was an engineering CONSERVATIVE guess.. :auiqs.jpg:
 
Should WE be CANCELED by all the hands strangling free expression in America right now?
With rights come responsibilities, a willingness to evaluate how our actions affect others. There is a pandemic that is killing people, putting people in the hospital, multiplying exponentially again. You seem to think encouraging people that either the Germ isn't a big deal or that we can't do anything to stop it, is somehow essential to our civil liberties? Our survival as a nation? The top epidemiologists in the world are working their asses off to save us, and you are advocating Tom, Dick and Harry telling us they're full of shit because RIGHTS.

I don't agree.

I don't see how he encouraged anything.

And since you don't know if that has anything to do with the Conservative Treehouse being deplatformed, I wonder how you can expect to make this argument.
This is from CTH, I believe:
The content on these pages is simply an ongoing discussion about freedom with criticism against any political party or entity that diminishes it. Apparently, immediately after the 2020 election, that discussion became problematic. After writing about the COVID-19 agenda,…the notification: the website will be removed.


It's what made me wonder if it had to do with Covid and voter fraud.

And my guess is that flacaltenn is picking up on the statement "immediatly after the 2020 election...".

That is the focus of his OP.
 
First off -- I've never logged on to Conservative Treehouse blog.. Never actually even lurked there. I know about it only because my wife is a member there and spends 2 or 3 hours a day on that site.. Today the blogger who runs with name Sundance announced that CTH will be deplatformed by 1st week December.

CTH is one of highest volume Conservative blog sites in the country. They like to be a "refuge" for conservative speech and opinion.. They do PRUNE their members. That's their RIGHT to do so.. Of all the stuff I've read from there -- it's high quality research and analysis and the members are FAR BETTER behaved and civil than on USMB.. :stir: The excuse given was completely nebulous.. It reads like "we're not compatible with your content and opinions". And the move was announced after Sundance pulled together some strings on the strength of "one world" globalists that NOW feel empowered to act..

They have a HUGE PROBLEM.. Which is the Wordpress business model.. Their site is DESIGNED to suck in wantabee bloggers with low rent and services -- but like Hotel California -- "You can never leave".. Because their site is based on open sourced S/ware that incompatible with most other hosting.. I looked into WordPress -- and I would never make that mistake..

So now with decades of content and discussion -- the left is moving them to wander towards Siberia and the "camps".. And essentially confiscating their work.

IMO -- half of America is NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE.. I imagine the right will learn to protest and organize and WHINE about free speech that makes THEM uncomfortable. Good possibility that WordPress will have several thousand people picketing and protest.. It's the last stand before the war goes hot.., The doxxing and canceling and deplatforming and shadow banning and fact checking goes both ways.. It's just that the OTHER HALF is gonna have to invest in their OWN resources.. And there's plenty of money and skill to do just that... With THAT effort -- the polarization reaches nuclear warfare potential...

So much for Biden's plea that NOW the left wants to heal the country.. I'm CERTAIN that high elements of the left power elite are involved in selecting the targets here.. And we'll SEE THAT when Biden packs his "potential" administration with same tyrannical high tech oligarchs..

Ignorant nonsense.

No one is ‘playing Nazi.’

Private websites, hosting platforms, and blogging software developers are at liberty to edit their content as they see fit – where such editing is in no manner ‘censorship.’

The internet is infinite; conservatives have ample other online opportunities to spread their ignorance, fear, hate, and lies – this being one of many examples.

Such name calling is foolish.

Why would they be deplatformed ? If you can start with the answer to that question, it would be useful.
No name calling – the thread premise is ignorant nonsense.

Why Conservative Treehouse is being deplatformed has nothing to do with ‘censorship’ or ‘Nazis.’

As a private entity WordPress is not required to provide an explanation as to why – however wrong, capricious, or unwarranted that decision might be perceived to be by conservatives.

The remedy is for conservatives to find another hosting site.

Of course, conservatives will continue to pursue the false narrative of rightwing victimhood.
Ok bright BOY, name ONE left leaning site that has ever been shut down, deplatformed or censored. One will do.
Exactly do you know how many sites I have been baned from in the past 30 years?

It must be over 100 by now.

We subpoenaed all their records during an extensive background check.. It's actually only 73.. Not counting temp bans. You exaggerate...
Lol

But you forgot about the 2,003,000 times I got the hammer thrown on me.


Dirty bastards
 
You seem to think encouraging people that either the Germ isn't a big deal or that we can't do anything to stop it, is somehow essential to our civil liberties?


Like I said.. THe theories and actions have been tested by about 63 countries around the globe. They ALL FAILED.. Maybe we CANT "stop it". Or promise to "SHUT IT DOWN" like Biden did without a vaccine and better tools.. Just like MAYBE -- we can't STOP GWarming and MAYBE there's no impending doom. Just a problem to be worked.

For DECADES doctors flipped/flopped over how to bed a baby.. back, stomach, side.

For a century our theories about land masses moving was completely wrong until Techtonic theory took hold in about the 1920s.

For 30 years, we believed GWarming was the SOLE CAUSE of glacial melting and acceleration in Western coastal Antarctica. Until about 3 years ago when it was discovered that the volcanic rifts BELOW the glaciers were ACTUALLY ACTIVE.. So the irony of spending $TRILLS trying to reduce the risk of flooding most of Florida and the subways in NYC by decreasing CO2 would be that someday SOON -- we'll be told that those glaciers are shooting lava 300 ft above the rifts. And we have maybe ONE YEAR to fix that..

This is all goes back to my Unified Theory about why you and I think differently.. Major different between the left and the REST of America is that RISK is a dirty word.. Leftists want the power to REMOVE risk from every facet of life. They BELIEVE that's possible..

When in the REAL world -- risk is something to be MANAGED and ESSENTIAL to a thriving country or population.. Like the RISK that corporations, investors and small biz owners take every day..

To a scientist/engineer -- risk analysis is just part of the job.. To a leftist it's a bunch of laws and money that haven't been written yet or spent.
Regardless of your obvious passionate feelings about all this, you don't know better than the epidemiologists of the world. Sorry. And doing the typical "This is what the Left thinks" is not appreciated.

I would suggest that you've committed a logical fallacy here. Those who are non-politically advocating mask usage do so using studies they admit are not that good. This isn't to say they don't work. It's just to say there is nothing hugely convincing (yet) that they do. And many things printed about masks these days are very politically slanted. Just sayin'......my main point is next.

As to what the left or right thinks....regarding COVID and masks isn't the point of this thread and I can't sort out the issue for all this smoke.
I'm happy to stop talking about Covid.
 
First off -- I've never logged on to Conservative Treehouse blog.. Never actually even lurked there. I know about it only because my wife is a member there and spends 2 or 3 hours a day on that site.. Today the blogger who runs with name Sundance announced that CTH will be deplatformed by 1st week December.

CTH is one of highest volume Conservative blog sites in the country. They like to be a "refuge" for conservative speech and opinion.. They do PRUNE their members. That's their RIGHT to do so.. Of all the stuff I've read from there -- it's high quality research and analysis and the members are FAR BETTER behaved and civil than on USMB.. :stir: The excuse given was completely nebulous.. It reads like "we're not compatible with your content and opinions". And the move was announced after Sundance pulled together some strings on the strength of "one world" globalists that NOW feel empowered to act..

They have a HUGE PROBLEM.. Which is the Wordpress business model.. Their site is DESIGNED to suck in wantabee bloggers with low rent and services -- but like Hotel California -- "You can never leave".. Because their site is based on open sourced S/ware that incompatible with most other hosting.. I looked into WordPress -- and I would never make that mistake..

So now with decades of content and discussion -- the left is moving them to wander towards Siberia and the "camps".. And essentially confiscating their work.

IMO -- half of America is NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE.. I imagine the right will learn to protest and organize and WHINE about free speech that makes THEM uncomfortable. Good possibility that WordPress will have several thousand people picketing and protest.. It's the last stand before the war goes hot.., The doxxing and canceling and deplatforming and shadow banning and fact checking goes both ways.. It's just that the OTHER HALF is gonna have to invest in their OWN resources.. And there's plenty of money and skill to do just that... With THAT effort -- the polarization reaches nuclear warfare potential...

So much for Biden's plea that NOW the left wants to heal the country.. I'm CERTAIN that high elements of the left power elite are involved in selecting the targets here.. And we'll SEE THAT when Biden packs his "potential" administration with same tyrannical high tech oligarchs..

Ignorant nonsense.

No one is ‘playing Nazi.’

Private websites, hosting platforms, and blogging software developers are at liberty to edit their content as they see fit – where such editing is in no manner ‘censorship.’

The internet is infinite; conservatives have ample other online opportunities to spread their ignorance, fear, hate, and lies – this being one of many examples.

Such name calling is foolish.

Why would they be deplatformed ? If you can start with the answer to that question, it would be useful.
No name calling – the thread premise is ignorant nonsense.

Why Conservative Treehouse is being deplatformed has nothing to do with ‘censorship’ or ‘Nazis.’

As a private entity WordPress is not required to provide an explanation as to why – however wrong, capricious, or unwarranted that decision might be perceived to be by conservatives.

The remedy is for conservatives to find another hosting site.

Of course, conservatives will continue to pursue the false narrative of rightwing victimhood.
Ok bright BOY, name ONE left leaning site that has ever been shut down, deplatformed or censored. One will do.

Careful -- they MAY have shutdown one or two.. I'd ask for about 20.. :biggrin: Considering that the Conservative casualties are now in the THOUSANDS if not 10s of THOUSANDS.. Score is about 115,000 to 24 by my reckoning.

What are you talking about ? 10,000 what ...sites or individual bloggers ?

The victims of SoshMedia include congress people, journalists, entire newspapers, political advocacy groups. It was just a guess based on how BLANTANT and PREVALENT this has become. In fact, with the practice of "SHADOW BANNING" -- a lot of folks CAN'T tell when their mic has been turned off..

But like always -- It's was an engineering CONSERVATIVE guess.. :auiqs.jpg:

I am not familiar with SoshMedia....I will look further into it.

And it isn't funny.
 
Should WE be CANCELED by all the hands strangling free expression in America right now?
With rights come responsibilities, a willingness to evaluate how our actions affect others. There is a pandemic that is killing people, putting people in the hospital, multiplying exponentially again. You seem to think encouraging people that either the Germ isn't a big deal or that we can't do anything to stop it, is somehow essential to our civil liberties? Our survival as a nation? The top epidemiologists in the world are working their asses off to save us, and you are advocating Tom, Dick and Harry telling us they're full of shit because RIGHTS.

I don't agree.

I don't see how he encouraged anything.

And since you don't know if that has anything to do with the Conservative Treehouse being deplatformed, I wonder how you can expect to make this argument.
This is from CTH, I believe:
The content on these pages is simply an ongoing discussion about freedom with criticism against any political party or entity that diminishes it. Apparently, immediately after the 2020 election, that discussion became problematic. After writing about the COVID-19 agenda,…the notification: the website will be removed.


It's what made me wonder if it had to do with Covid and voter fraud.

That's a guess on Sundance's part.. When you get axed with NO REASON GIVEN -- you're prone to guessing what "you did wrong".. I'm certain that his recent blog on how Globalists are feeling their power again -- probably pissed off WordPress MORE than Covid.. Because if you look at the WordPress mission statement -- they fancy themselves a "global" entity...
 
First off -- I've never logged on to Conservative Treehouse blog.. Never actually even lurked there. I know about it only because my wife is a member there and spends 2 or 3 hours a day on that site.. Today the blogger who runs with name Sundance announced that CTH will be deplatformed by 1st week December.

CTH is one of highest volume Conservative blog sites in the country. They like to be a "refuge" for conservative speech and opinion.. They do PRUNE their members. That's their RIGHT to do so.. Of all the stuff I've read from there -- it's high quality research and analysis and the members are FAR BETTER behaved and civil than on USMB.. :stir: The excuse given was completely nebulous.. It reads like "we're not compatible with your content and opinions". And the move was announced after Sundance pulled together some strings on the strength of "one world" globalists that NOW feel empowered to act..

They have a HUGE PROBLEM.. Which is the Wordpress business model.. Their site is DESIGNED to suck in wantabee bloggers with low rent and services -- but like Hotel California -- "You can never leave".. Because their site is based on open sourced S/ware that incompatible with most other hosting.. I looked into WordPress -- and I would never make that mistake..

So now with decades of content and discussion -- the left is moving them to wander towards Siberia and the "camps".. And essentially confiscating their work.

IMO -- half of America is NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE.. I imagine the right will learn to protest and organize and WHINE about free speech that makes THEM uncomfortable. Good possibility that WordPress will have several thousand people picketing and protest.. It's the last stand before the war goes hot.., The doxxing and canceling and deplatforming and shadow banning and fact checking goes both ways.. It's just that the OTHER HALF is gonna have to invest in their OWN resources.. And there's plenty of money and skill to do just that... With THAT effort -- the polarization reaches nuclear warfare potential...

So much for Biden's plea that NOW the left wants to heal the country.. I'm CERTAIN that high elements of the left power elite are involved in selecting the targets here.. And we'll SEE THAT when Biden packs his "potential" administration with same tyrannical high tech oligarchs..

Ignorant nonsense.

No one is ‘playing Nazi.’

Private websites, hosting platforms, and blogging software developers are at liberty to edit their content as they see fit – where such editing is in no manner ‘censorship.’

The internet is infinite; conservatives have ample other online opportunities to spread their ignorance, fear, hate, and lies – this being one of many examples.

Such name calling is foolish.

Why would they be deplatformed ? If you can start with the answer to that question, it would be useful.
No name calling – the thread premise is ignorant nonsense.

Why Conservative Treehouse is being deplatformed has nothing to do with ‘censorship’ or ‘Nazis.’

As a private entity WordPress is not required to provide an explanation as to why – however wrong, capricious, or unwarranted that decision might be perceived to be by conservatives.

The remedy is for conservatives to find another hosting site.

Of course, conservatives will continue to pursue the false narrative of rightwing victimhood.
Ok bright BOY, name ONE left leaning site that has ever been shut down, deplatformed or censored. One will do.

Careful -- they MAY have shutdown one or two.. I'd ask for about 20.. :biggrin: Considering that the Conservative casualties are now in the THOUSANDS if not 10s of THOUSANDS.. Score is about 115,000 to 24 by my reckoning.

What are you talking about ? 10,000 what ...sites or individual bloggers ?

The victims of SoshMedia include congress people, journalists, entire newspapers, political advocacy groups. It was just a guess based on how BLANTANT and PREVALENT this has become. In fact, with the practice of "SHADOW BANNING" -- a lot of folks CAN'T tell when their mic has been turned off..

But like always -- It's was an engineering CONSERVATIVE guess.. :auiqs.jpg:

I am not familiar with SoshMedia....I will look further into it.

And it isn't funny.

Save ya some work.. SoshMedia is what i type for Social Media. You know who those players are right? Didn't want you wasting time looking for Sosh anything.. But maybe I'll buy the URL rights to it if they are available..
 
Should WE be CANCELED by all the hands strangling free expression in America right now?
With rights come responsibilities, a willingness to evaluate how our actions affect others. There is a pandemic that is killing people, putting people in the hospital, multiplying exponentially again. You seem to think encouraging people that either the Germ isn't a big deal or that we can't do anything to stop it, is somehow essential to our civil liberties? Our survival as a nation? The top epidemiologists in the world are working their asses off to save us, and you are advocating Tom, Dick and Harry telling us they're full of shit because RIGHTS.

I don't agree.

I don't see how he encouraged anything.

And since you don't know if that has anything to do with the Conservative Treehouse being deplatformed, I wonder how you can expect to make this argument.
This is from CTH, I believe:
The content on these pages is simply an ongoing discussion about freedom with criticism against any political party or entity that diminishes it. Apparently, immediately after the 2020 election, that discussion became problematic. After writing about the COVID-19 agenda,…the notification: the website will be removed.


It's what made me wonder if it had to do with Covid and voter fraud.

And my guess is that flacaltenn is picking up on the statement "immediatly after the 2020 election...".

That is the focus of his OP.

Reading his OP what stuck out the most to me his wife's IQ must be high as heck, I would really like her opinion
 
You seem to think encouraging people that either the Germ isn't a big deal or that we can't do anything to stop it, is somehow essential to our civil liberties?


Like I said.. THe theories and actions have been tested by about 63 countries around the globe. They ALL FAILED.. Maybe we CANT "stop it". Or promise to "SHUT IT DOWN" like Biden did without a vaccine and better tools.. Just like MAYBE -- we can't STOP GWarming and MAYBE there's no impending doom. Just a problem to be worked.

For DECADES doctors flipped/flopped over how to bed a baby.. back, stomach, side.

For a century our theories about land masses moving was completely wrong until Techtonic theory took hold in about the 1920s.

For 30 years, we believed GWarming was the SOLE CAUSE of glacial melting and acceleration in Western coastal Antarctica. Until about 3 years ago when it was discovered that the volcanic rifts BELOW the glaciers were ACTUALLY ACTIVE.. So the irony of spending $TRILLS trying to reduce the risk of flooding most of Florida and the subways in NYC by decreasing CO2 would be that someday SOON -- we'll be told that those glaciers are shooting lava 300 ft above the rifts. And we have maybe ONE YEAR to fix that..

This is all goes back to my Unified Theory about why you and I think differently.. Major different between the left and the REST of America is that RISK is a dirty word.. Leftists want the power to REMOVE risk from every facet of life. They BELIEVE that's possible..

When in the REAL world -- risk is something to be MANAGED and ESSENTIAL to a thriving country or population.. Like the RISK that corporations, investors and small biz owners take every day..

To a scientist/engineer -- risk analysis is just part of the job.. To a leftist it's a bunch of laws and money that haven't been written yet or spent.
Regardless of your obvious passionate feelings about all this, you don't know better than the epidemiologists of the world. Sorry. And doing the typical "This is what the Left thinks" is not appreciated.

I would suggest that you've committed a logical fallacy here. Those who are non-politically advocating mask usage do so using studies they admit are not that good. This isn't to say they don't work. It's just to say there is nothing hugely convincing (yet) that they do. And many things printed about masks these days are very politically slanted. Just sayin'......my main point is next.

As to what the left or right thinks....regarding COVID and masks isn't the point of this thread and I can't sort out the issue for all this smoke.
I'm happy to stop talking about Covid.

I am happy to discuss it in a thread where it is the point of the OP.

What flacaltenn is raising here is a recent development by companies and sites to ban or silence individuals they don't agree with.

The argument that telling people not to wear masks is wrong does not wash....That has been going on for six months.

The argument against allowing people to use social media to claim our elections are tainted is specious at best. The reason you have investigations is because there is some alleged or apparent fraud. You check it out. Shutting that down comes across as orwellian and simply wrong.
 
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I have nothing against questioning studies with well reasoned arguments, whether it is about Covid or MMGW (thanks FCT for translating), but I'm guessing it is more than that going on in the Treehouse.

What's going on at the TreeHouse I hear about every day from the wife unit.. And it's a respected form of investigative journalism --- ALL spearheaded by the ONE blogger that runs it.,. Many members of CONGRESS are known fans..

I went to this site.....there is one SoshMedia....it's a marketing agency.

Thanks for clarifying.

I don't do a lot of what has been used and I am not sure the magnitude of the impact.

But the fact that it goes on truly concerns me. I realize it may be perfectly legal. That does not necessarily make it ethical.
 
First off -- I've never logged on to Conservative Treehouse blog.. Never actually even lurked there. I know about it only because my wife is a member there and spends 2 or 3 hours a day on that site.. Today the blogger who runs with name Sundance announced that CTH will be deplatformed by 1st week December.

CTH is one of highest volume Conservative blog sites in the country. They like to be a "refuge" for conservative speech and opinion.. They do PRUNE their members. That's their RIGHT to do so.. Of all the stuff I've read from there -- it's high quality research and analysis and the members are FAR BETTER behaved and civil than on USMB.. :stir: The excuse given was completely nebulous.. It reads like "we're not compatible with your content and opinions". And the move was announced after Sundance pulled together some strings on the strength of "one world" globalists that NOW feel empowered to act..

They have a HUGE PROBLEM.. Which is the Wordpress business model.. Their site is DESIGNED to suck in wantabee bloggers with low rent and services -- but like Hotel California -- "You can never leave".. Because their site is based on open sourced S/ware that incompatible with most other hosting.. I looked into WordPress -- and I would never make that mistake..

So now with decades of content and discussion -- the left is moving them to wander towards Siberia and the "camps".. And essentially confiscating their work.

IMO -- half of America is NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE.. I imagine the right will learn to protest and organize and WHINE about free speech that makes THEM uncomfortable. Good possibility that WordPress will have several thousand people picketing and protest.. It's the last stand before the war goes hot.., The doxxing and canceling and deplatforming and shadow banning and fact checking goes both ways.. It's just that the OTHER HALF is gonna have to invest in their OWN resources.. And there's plenty of money and skill to do just that... With THAT effort -- the polarization reaches nuclear warfare potential...

So much for Biden's plea that NOW the left wants to heal the country.. I'm CERTAIN that high elements of the left power elite are involved in selecting the targets here.. And we'll SEE THAT when Biden packs his "potential" administration with same tyrannical high tech oligarchs..

Ignorant nonsense.

No one is ‘playing Nazi.’

Private websites, hosting platforms, and blogging software developers are at liberty to edit their content as they see fit – where such editing is in no manner ‘censorship.’

The internet is infinite; conservatives have ample other online opportunities to spread their ignorance, fear, hate, and lies – this being one of many examples.

Right on man.. EVERYBODY knows how civil and unthreatening the left is on the web.. When they're not calling names, they are doxxing, canceling, threatening, shadow banning, and destroying objectivity.. You're forcing a hand here. Half of America is not gonna sit back and be cleaved into WWW Siberia..
The notion that ‘half of America’ is subject to ‘censorship’ is as ridiculous as it is wrong.

Nothing more than unfounded, hyperbolic nonsense and demagoguery.


Are you being willfully ignorant? I am asking respectfully. Twitter, Facebook, Google and other left wing media platforms have been censoring speech like crazy. I know you are aware of this. Why play stupid?
 

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