The Poor & Poverty: Is the Right right?

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    The Right is usually Wrong, so we had 911, two wars, the Gulf Slick, failed economy, etc.

    My question is about poverty. Are the Right correct this time, that we should forget the poor and homeless, or is this just another Right being Wrong issue? What would happen to the poor and rich in America if we eliminated all social programs tomorrow? Would it end up costing us more, or less?

    I ask because the prisons are already filled with Americans who wanted more, not less out of life. And it is logical the poor are going to eat and have other human needs they want fulfilled.

    On the other hand the rich would have more money in their pockets to invest in themselves, but not necessarily in jobs or products. They don't tell us why they want so much money they can never spend it in a lifetime or a thousand generations of their offspring. Perhaps if they did it would be easier to understand why dumping the poor is such a good idea afterall. And why the Right might be Right on this issue.
     
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    Government does not give you all of what you want.
     
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    IMHO its a matter of fairness. The rich, those being the top 10% of incomes that own 90% of everything generally only worry about getting richer, and how to fuck the other 90% over to get richer. The latest outrage is moving 14,000 factories overseas, AND building another 100,000 or so new factories overseas instead of here in the US. Its easier than dealing with the unions and environmentalists. So the 90% of have-nots get smaller buckets of rice, and the rich still sell their foreign made products, which the rest of us need to buy, since thats all there is in stores...foreign made goods. Then the rich outsource other service jobs and their stocks keep making money as the poor lose their houses and dignity.
    So the Right and Left are both wrong, since they don't help everyone by creating good jobs here, then tax revenue suffers and the pols look like morons (which they are).
     
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    The rich already pay most of the taxes.

    Government doesn't make things "fair."
     
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    Yes, exactly, and there are millions in poverty, poor, homeless, etc. to prove you are right. And with all the lobbyists it is clear that even when you are wealthy the government doesn't give you everything they want. It just isn't going to happen.
     
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    Government is wealthier than anything or anyone.
     
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    Maybe part of the problem is a trade inbalance,Our products sold over seas may have a tariff where stuff from China does not.Try to catch Donald Trump some time when He's on TV he will give you an earful about doing business with China.Will Obama ever confront China about this .....Not when China is holding the bill to Obama's credit card.
     
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    So do you think we should abandon all social programs for the poor? You can't change the rich getting richer, or unions, or environmentalists, but you can change taking care of the poor, the unemployed and welfare social programs. You can end them, but what will be the result of that action? Will it make America richer or poorer, or what? Is the Right right??
     
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    So how does this affect taking care of poverty so less taxes are paid and the rich can get richer?
     
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    Interesting day for me today....A radio host asked people who have been unemployed for some time now to call in and to let the audience in on how it's possible for a person to collect an unemployment check for 99 weeks and not get a job in all this time....

    The answer from the first three callers was......

    They will REALLY start to look for work when the benefits run out and they will have no choice but to get some type of employment.

    It made no sense to them to get a job where they will have to pay taxes when they can stay at home and collect a check.

    Nice huh?

    The show was WABC AM radio in NY....
     
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