The pattern is set, history has spoken

[Samson]

And the bumps I talked about were there because the people in our government fucked up and then smart people had to step in and repair the damage.

The idea of unregulated markets is a failed idea.

Everytime we deregulate we get fucked until we reregulate.

You may be too dense to realize it and face facts but most people are capable of this.

The simple fact is that there's never been a more successful economy in the history of the planet.

It is regulated capitalism.

You are unable to see the forest for the trees.

 

[xsited1]

In the lead up to the Great Depression which started with the 1929 crash there were years of completely Republican government headed by a president who insisted the market would take care of its self. The market did what it wanted and the people suffered drastically.

The people revolted and put in a democratic president and congress when doing nothing was killing Americans.

Then the econony was stimulated by a democratic government and the people recovered.


In the lead up to the Great Recession which started in 2006 with the with fall off in housing starts and massive home forecloseurs there was years of completely Republican government Headed by a president who insisted the market would take care of its self. The market did what it wanted and people suffered greatly.

The people revolted and put in a democratic congress and president when doing nothing was harming the American people.


The economy was stimulated by a democratic government and the economy began to recover.


This is why certain people hate higher education and smear any journalist that tells the facts without waiting to see how the republican party wants them edited before they report.

History has spoken folks and the idea that there are "Magic Markets" has been decimated.

Your ideas have failed repetedly in history.

Get some new ideas.

You win the coveted troll award for today.

 

[Truthmatters]

Regulated Capitalism works and every time we get talked into going into a phase of deregulation we get screwed.

That is always at the behest of republicans.

It always fails us.

 

[California Girl]

In the lead up to the Great Depression which started with the 1929 crash there were years of completely Republican government headed by a president who insisted the market would take care of its self. The market did what it wanted and the people suffered drastically.

The people revolted and put in a democratic president and congress when doing nothing was killing Americans.

Then the econony was stimulated by a democratic government and the people recovered.


In the lead up to the Great Recession which started in 2006 with the with fall off in housing starts and massive home forecloseurs there was years of completely Republican government Headed by a president who insisted the market would take care of its self. The market did what it wanted and people suffered greatly.

The people revolted and put in a democratic congress and president when doing nothing was harming the American people.


The economy was stimulated by a democratic government and the economy began to recover.


This is why certain people hate higher education and smear any journalist that tells the facts without waiting to see how the republican party wants them edited before they report.

History has spoken folks and the idea that there are "Magic Markets" has been decimated.

Your ideas have failed repetedly in history.

Get some new ideas.

Here's a new idea ... just wave your arms and proclaim your stupidity as loud as you can. Takes less reading and for once you'd be stating the truth with some fact to back it up.

Doesn't that post count as the cyber equivalent of truthmatters waving her arms around shouting 'I'm an idiot, I'm an idiot, I'm an idiot'?

 

[California Girl]

Regulated Capitalism works and every time we get talked into going into a phase of deregulation we get screwed.

That is always at the behest of republicans.

It always fails us.

Wow. Is your stupidity inherited or are you a one off?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"Then the econony was stimulated by a democratic government and the people recovered."

LOLOlolOLOlOLOLOlOLLlolololol

Holy fucking shit!!!!

LOLOLololOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOOLOOL

That's so fucking wrong!

We AVERAGED 17% unemployment during the FDR years! He was worse than the 7 Biblical Lean Years!

That's hysterical!!!

 

[JakeStarkey]

Regulated Capitalism works and every time we get talked into going into a phase of deregulation we get screwed.

That is always at the behest of republicans.

It always fails us.

Wow. Is your stupidity inherited or are you a one off?

Come on, my dear, then explain the 1920s and the Great Depression, and the late 90s/early2000s and the Great Recession.

You are wrong. Deregulated capitalism always leads to economic dislocation as greed turns into pathological behavior, the same as laziness turns into pathological behavior in a socialist culture.

 

[Truthmatters]

Note the inability of the right to counter the facts on the ground

 

[Zoom-boing]

Isn't there a middle ground on regulation, a place that isn't too much nor too little where things actually work?

 

[Truthmatters]

There absolutely is.

I wish the Republican party would aim towards that instead of just killing any regulation and claiming it woud distroy the country.

 

[MarcATL]

Neo-Cons...did you guys even bother to see 'Capitalism: A Love Story?'

If not...you really should.

And if you already did...you should know better. Shame on you!

The OP is spot on.

 

[Truthmatters]

I just wish they would study history well enough to know they are being fooled big time by Big time corps.

 

[Samson]

Neo-Cons...did you guys even bother to see 'Capitalism: A Love Story?'

If not...you really should.

And if you already did...you should know better. Shame on you!

The OP is spot on.

Um so....your "better idea" is?

I agree that there cerainly have been economic downturns during the history of the United States, but to assign each one to a single causation (economic deregulation) is so naive as to be intellectually infantile.

 

[Truthmatters]

Never said that you fool.

I said that both were presided over by a Republican who leaned towards unfettered markets and did not police the industries who were heading us into trouble.

Both this Great recession and the GD were ushered in by completely Republican governments who were led by presidents who did not believe in regulation of the markets.

In other words they sat on their hands and "let the market take care of its self".

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Never said that you fool.

I said that both were presided over by a Republican who leaned towards unfettered markets and did not police the industries who were heading us into trouble.

Both this Great recession and the GD were ushered in by completely Republican governments who were led by presidents who did not believe in regulation of the markets.

In other words they sat on their hands and "let the market take care of its self".

which is why the 1920 depression ended much sooner than the hoover/fdr depression

 

[Truthmatters]

Why dont you post that in the right thread about all depressions?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/economy/100035-list-of-all-the-recessions-in-the-us.html

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Never said that you fool.

I said that both were presided over by a Republican who leaned towards unfettered markets and did not police the industries who were heading us into trouble.

Both this Great recession and the GD were ushered in by completely Republican governments who were led by presidents who did not believe in regulation of the markets.

In other words they sat on their hands and "let the market take care of its self".

And "history" shows that Hoover didn't believe in regulation of the markets, does it? That's a fallacy.

 

[Truthmatters]

The 1920 recession was a typical post war recession.

 

[Samson]

Never said that you fool.

I said that both were presided over by a Republican who leaned towards unfettered markets and did not police the industries who were heading us into trouble.

Both this Great recession and the GD were ushered in by completely Republican governments who were led by presidents who did not believe in regulation of the markets.

In other words they sat on their hands and "let the market take care of its self".

Look, Idiot, I've put up with your blathering stupidity long enough to recognise that you are an imbecile, but I will attempt ONE LAST TIME:

Economic Conditions are not JUST a function of whoever leads govenments.

 

[Truthmatters]

Never said that you fool.

I said that both were presided over by a Republican who leaned towards unfettered markets and did not police the industries who were heading us into trouble.

Both this Great recession and the GD were ushered in by completely Republican governments who were led by presidents who did not believe in regulation of the markets.

In other words they sat on their hands and "let the market take care of its self".

And "history" shows that Hoover didn't believe in regulation of the markets, does it? That's a fallacy.

Hoovers investments were too little too late.

Look at the charts of what happened after FDR entered office and implimented his plan. There was a precipitus decline in the economic indicators right after that.

To pretend the history says anything but it does is dishonest.