The Organizer--What did Barack Obama Really do in Chicago?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Catbert, Sep 25, 2009.

  1. Catbert
    Offline

    Catbert Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2009
    Messages:
    251
    Thanks Received:
    40
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Ratings:
    +40
    Community organizing is most identified with the left-wing Chicago activist Saul Alinsky (1909-72), who pretty much defined the profession. In his classic book, Rules for Radicals, Alinsky wrote that a successful organizer should be "an abrasive agent to rub raw the resentments of the people of the community; to fan latent hostilities of many of the people to the point of overt expressions."....

    By Byron York, National Review, June 30, 2008

    Chicago - BARACK OBAMA often cites his time as a community organizer here in Chicago as one of the experiences that qualify him to hold the nation's highest office. "I can bring this country together," he said in a debate last February. "I have a track record, starting from the days I moved to Chicago as a community organizer."

    When Obama says such things, the reaction among many observers is: Huh?

    Audiences understand when he mentions his years as an Illinois state legislator, or his brief tenure in the U.S. Senate. But a community organizer? What's that?

    Even Obama didn't know when he first gave it a try back in 1985. "When classmates in college asked me just what it was that a community organizer did, I couldn't answer them directly," Obama wrote in his memoir, Dreams from My Father. "Instead, I'd pronounce on the need for change. Change in the White House, where Reagan and his minions were carrying on their dirty deeds. Change in the Congress, compliant and corrupt. Change in the mood of the country, manic and self-absorbed. Change won't come from the top, I would say. Change will come from a mobilized grass roots."

    If you substitute "Bush" for "Reagan," you have a fairly accurate description of Obama's 2008 campaign. That's not a coincidence; it suggests that something about community organizing was central to Obama's world view back then, and has remained central to his development as the politician he is today. What was it?

    Obama's time in the job, from 1985 to 1988. What did he do? What did he accomplish? And what in his experience here stands as a qualification to be president of the United States?

    THE RADICAL'S RULES
    Perhaps the simplest way to describe community organizing is to say it is the practice of identifying a specific aggrieved population, say unemployed steelworkers, or itinerant fruit-pickers, or residents of a particularly bad neighborhood, and agitating them until they become so upset about their condition that they take collective action to put pressure on local, state, or federal officials to fix the problem, often by giving the affected group money. Organizers like to call that "direct action."

    Community organizing is most identified with the left-wing Chicago activist Saul Alinsky (1909-72), who pretty much defined the profession. In his classic book, Rules for Radicals, Alinsky wrote that a successful organizer should be "an abrasive agent to rub raw the resentments of the people of the community; to fan latent hostilities of many of the people to the point of overt expressions." Once such hostilities were "whipped up to a fighting pitch," Alinsky continued, the organizer steered his group toward confrontation, in the form of picketing, demonstrating, and general hell-raising. At first, the organizer tackled small stuff, like demanding the repair of streetlights in a city park; later, when the group gained confidence, the organizer could take on bigger targets. But at all times, the organizer's goal was not to lead his people anywhere, but to encourage them to take action on their own behalf.

    Jerry Kellman, the organizer who hired Obama, told me recently. "I felt that he wanted to work in the civil-rights movement, but he was ten years too late, and this was the closest he could find to it at the time." Obama, in his memoir, put it more simply when he said he went to Chicago to "organize black folks.

    The Organizer by Byron York on National Review / Digital
     
  2. rightwinger
    Online

    rightwinger Paid Messageboard Poster Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2009
    Messages:
    120,463
    Thanks Received:
    19,871
    Trophy Points:
    2,190
    Location:
    NJ & MD
    Ratings:
    +45,490
    Didn't you try this stuff like a year ago??

    It didn't work. Obama was overwhelmingly elected over the best candidate the republicans had to offer. Obama's qualifications are that he is President of the United States and defacto "Leader of the Free World" Get over it
     
  3. VaYank5150
    Offline

    VaYank5150 Gold Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2009
    Messages:
    11,779
    Thanks Received:
    1,047
    Trophy Points:
    138
    Location:
    Virginia
    Ratings:
    +1,055

    Is there a POINT in here, somewher? Aywhere?
     
  4. LibocalypseNow
    Offline

    LibocalypseNow Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2009
    Messages:
    12,337
    Thanks Received:
    1,356
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ratings:
    +1,357
    Yes Chicago is just as dangerous & failed as Baghdad and Kabul are at this point. He was a failed "Community Organizer" at best. He is a Liberal Media creation who was never qualified to be President. I believed this during the Election and i still believe this. The Liberal dominated Mainstream Media has actually been pretty embarrassing up to this point. Their shameful Hopey Changey Boot-Licking really has convinced most that they can no longer be trusted for information. You simply have to go around the corrupt Liberal Press for your information. There are alternative news sources and i think many Americans are now aggressively seeking them out. Seriously,does anyone actually still watch ABC,NBC,CBS,or PBS nightly news? I haven't in many years and i don't plan to anytime soon. I had enough of their biased Liberal propaganda chit a long time ago. Barack Obama is not qualified to be our President. His failed record and shady dealings in Chicago clearly show this. Like i said,a failed "Community Organizer" at best. :(
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  5. Catbert
    Offline

    Catbert Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2009
    Messages:
    251
    Thanks Received:
    40
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Ratings:
    +40
    I wasn't posting here a year ago. Do your homework.

    I need to know. Is your use of "defacto" in the Latin sense, or as a legal term? BTW, there's a space between de and facto, "de facto."

    I'm not sure what point is being made when you say, "Obama's qualifications are that he is President of the United States and defacto "Leader of the Free World." Because he was elected, does not mean he is qualified.

    So, let's discuss what you think about Obama's lack of knowledge of international events, leaders, nuclear issues? Then, let's cover his generous campaign promises (that were not backed by any means to accomplish them) regarding how how your life would "change" dramatically for the better.

    You somehow failed to overlook the number one issue of national security faced by our country, and elected a rank amateur in the most critical arena of your, and all of our lives.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2009
  6. KMAN
    Offline

    KMAN Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2008
    Messages:
    2,683
    Thanks Received:
    268
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ratings:
    +269
    DUH.... He organized things in the community.....
     
  7. rightwinger
    Online

    rightwinger Paid Messageboard Poster Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2009
    Messages:
    120,463
    Thanks Received:
    19,871
    Trophy Points:
    2,190
    Location:
    NJ & MD
    Ratings:
    +45,490
    Look up the term Moot Point
     
  8. Catbert
    Offline

    Catbert Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2009
    Messages:
    251
    Thanks Received:
    40
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Ratings:
    +40
    Nice try as an escape route from confrontation. This tactic won't save you when Moammar's staring you down.
     
  9. Soggy in NOLA
    Online

    Soggy in NOLA Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2009
    Messages:
    32,853
    Thanks Received:
    4,324
    Trophy Points:
    1,130
    Ratings:
    +11,578
    Obama's an amateur? Wait a minute.. I thought he was the smartest, most qualified, most insightful human being on the PLANET? WTF?????
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  10. Soggy in NOLA
    Online

    Soggy in NOLA Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2009
    Messages:
    32,853
    Thanks Received:
    4,324
    Trophy Points:
    1,130
    Ratings:
    +11,578
    Are we now saying he is exactly what we feared? A nobody with a resume that fits in a thimble with room left over for two fingers?

    Oh dear...
     

Share This Page