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Bribart isn't a 'blog'.
You really have become quit the spinner lately Rav, I guess all our protests are indeed making you nervous.
Good.
Very good.
Wait a minute. You post an aritcle in which a British member of parliament says they need to reassess their relationship with the US because they got screwed over in the Iraqi war by trusting Bush and Cheney. You try and blame that on Obama, and he's the one spinning???? HAHAHAHAHAHA
Bribart isn't a 'blog'.
You really have become quit the spinner lately Rav, I guess all our protests are indeed making you nervous.
Good.
Very good.
Wait a minute. You post an aritcle in which a British member of parliament says they need to reassess their relationship with the US because they got screwed over in the Iraqi war by trusting Bush and Cheney. You try and blame that on Obama, and he's the one spinning???? HAHAHAHAHAHA
For the liberals who have trouble readings
"President Barack Obama's administration was taking a "more pragmatic tone" towards Britain than had been the case for some previous US administrations."
Then premier Tony Blair stood shoulder-to-shoulder with president George W. Bush over the invasion despite a lack of wider international support.
"The perception that the British government was a subservient 'poodle' to the US administration leading up to the period of the invasion of Iraq and its aftermath is widespread both among the British public and overseas," it said.
i dont think that the bust issue is a statement of obama's disdain for england. did you know that the statuette was on loan to the bush administration? this was a typical pundit grab and blow out of proportion issue that modo ate up.
because i didnt go to the G20, i didnt meet anyone there. my family lives in the UK and i have 50 or so friends who live there. the overwhelming impression that i have from talking to them, on the phone, on facebook, and in person during the 3 months of cumulative time i have spent in london and bucks since obama's been president does not line up with your vast dissent perspective. they are relieved that he's our leader instead of bush, who is reviled there. despised.
instead, i would say brits approve of obama more than their own leadership, and more than americans do.
The great divider strikes again, as the Brits no longer think that something that was said for over 60 years is relivent anymore.
No 'special relationship' between Britain and US: MPs
President Barack Obama's administration was taking a "more pragmatic tone" towards Britain than had been the case for some previous US administrations.
I guess Gordo didn't like those DVDs Barry gave him.
Yeah, and no special realtionship exists between the Bank of England (the FED's largest initial investor) and the US Federal Reserve, either, right?
Why its almost as though the same elite running this nation, ALSO run England (note I did not say the UK?)
The great divider strikes again, as the Brits no longer think that something that was said for over 60 years is relivent anymore.
No 'special relationship' between Britain and US: MPs
President Barack Obama's administration was taking a "more pragmatic tone" towards Britain than had been the case for some previous US administrations.
I guess Gordo didn't like those DVDs Barry gave him.
Breitbart (and you) apparently didn't comprehend the "message" there. If anything, the Brits are saying "We won't be suckered into another dumb war..." From the linked article:"British and European politicians have been guilty of over-optimism about the extent of influence they have over the US," he said.
"We must be realistic and accept that globalisation, structural changes and shifts in geopolitical power will inevitably affect the UK-US relationship".
In the report itself, the committee of members of parliament said there were "many lessons to be learned" from Britain's approach to the United States over the 2003 Iraq war.
Then premier Tony Blair stood shoulder-to-shoulder with president George W. Bush over the invasion despite a lack of wider international support.
"The perception that the British government was a subservient 'poodle' to the US administration leading up to the period of the invasion of Iraq and its aftermath is widespread both among the British public and overseas," it said.
"This perception, whatever its relation to reality, is deeply damaging to the reputation and interests of the UK."
It also noted that President Barack Obama's administration was taking a "more pragmatic tone" towards Britain than had been the case for some previous US administrations.
A Foreign Office spokeswoman said in response to the report: "It doesn't really matter whether someone calls it the 'special relationship' or not.
"What matters is that the UK's relationship with the US is unique, and uniquely important to protecting our national security and promoting our national interest."
It's hard to take anything seriously that is posted on a rightwingloon's blog.
But I suppose we should give the wingnut credit for including the real problem.
In the report itself, the committee of members of parliament said there were "many lessons to be learned" from Britain's approach to the United States over the 2003 Iraq war.
Then premier Tony Blair stood shoulder-to-shoulder with president George W. Bush over the invasion despite a lack of wider international support.
"The perception that the British government was a subservient 'poodle' to the US administration leading up to the period of the invasion of Iraq and its aftermath is widespread both among the British public and overseas," it said.
"This perception, whatever its relation to reality, is deeply damaging to the reputation and interests of the UK."
It's hard to take anything seriously that is posted on a rightwingloon's blog.
But I suppose we should give the wingnut credit for including the real problem.
In the report itself, the committee of members of parliament said there were "many lessons to be learned" from Britain's approach to the United States over the 2003 Iraq war.
Then premier Tony Blair stood shoulder-to-shoulder with president George W. Bush over the invasion despite a lack of wider international support.
"The perception that the British government was a subservient 'poodle' to the US administration leading up to the period of the invasion of Iraq and its aftermath is widespread both among the British public and overseas," it said.
"This perception, whatever its relation to reality, is deeply damaging to the reputation and interests of the UK."
I have no idea whether this is a right wing blog or not, but the piece seems factual and even handed.
Way to miss the point. There was a very telling anecdote about Blair's attitude towards Bush just before the invasion of Iraq. Blair thought that he could use the "special relationship" to control Bush. This is where this is coming from, it has nothing to do with Obama.
The Brits fucked up when they thought they could nudge the Bush Administration on the basis of the historical relationship. Now they're going for "pragmatism". Good move.
I'm not too sure i care about what the Brits think anymore. They are a small & weak island nation that has meddled in other nations' internal affairs for hundreds of years. I still don't understand why so many nations allow them to meddle so much. They are pretty insignificant in today's World. Just a small island nation with no real power or authority. They do an awful lot of barking around the World but when it comes down to it they have almost no bite. That being said,this President's foreign policy is a bit helter skelter at this point. He seems to be tough and insulting towards our allies while at the same time bowing and apologizing to our enemies. It is pretty bizarre stuff. Who knows what's going on in the head of a Saul Alinsky trained "Community Organizer?" Personally i don't care what Britain thinks but at the same time i don't get this President's foreign policy either.
Who ultimately controls the USA?
The FED and it's stockholding banks?
Who owns the FED?
Do the research and you will discover that the bank of England was the FEDs largest original stockholder (though machinations with JP Morgan, incidently)
Is it still?
As far as I know, yes...though its stockholdings of various "American" banks that are the stockholders of the FED.
So...do we have a "special relationship"
What do you think?
We do live in a world where the GOLDEN RULE is in effect, do we not?
Who ultimately controls the USA?
The FED and it's stockholding banks?
Who owns the FED?
Do the research and you will discover that the bank of England was the FEDs largest original stockholder (though machinations with JP Morgan, incidently)
Is it still?
As far as I know, yes...though its stockholdings of various "American" banks that are the stockholders of the FED.
So...do we have a "special relationship"
What do you think?
We do live in a world where the GOLDEN RULE is in effect, do we not?
Oh gawd...please don't go there. You will only attract all the Prison Planet dwellers who yammer about the "new world order."
Who ultimately controls the USA?
The FED and it's stockholding banks?
Who owns the FED?
Do the research and you will discover that the bank of England was the FEDs largest original stockholder (though machinations with JP Morgan, incidently)
Is it still?
As far as I know, yes...though its stockholdings of various "American" banks that are the stockholders of the FED.
So...do we have a "special relationship"
What do you think?
We do live in a world where the GOLDEN RULE is in effect, do we not?
that relationship works both ways, tec.
anyhow, china an japan are considerably more invested in the fed than england. are you talking about this end of wwII?!!
i think the abu dhabi's got a bigger stake than GB.
the bottom line is whether its a fund or a government, reserves put a lot of power in the issuer's hands, too. that the US has our issuance hedged all over the world is one of our trump cards, if anything.
Yeah, it does work both ways...much like the health of a parsite depends on the health of the host.
Are they?anyhow, china an japan are considerably more invested in the fed than england. are you talking about this end of wwII?!!
I confess that I do not know which banks are now the primary stockholders of the twelve FEDERAL RESERVE BANKS, so you may be right.
I cannot attest to the accuracy of the following, and it is based on information that was written in 1996, so it is undoubtably no longer accurate (assuming it was to begin with), but consider....
[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]Who Owns the Federal Reserve Bank of New York?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Each of the twelve Federal Reserve Banks is organized into a corporation whose shares are sold to the commercial banks and thrifts operating within the Bank's district. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Shareholders elect six of the nine the board of directors for their regional Federal Reserve Bank as well as its president. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Mullins reported that the top eight stockholders of the New York Fed were, in order from largest to smallest as of 1983, Citibank, Chase Manhatten, Morgan Guaranty Trust, Chemical Bank, Manufacturers Hanover Trust, Bankers Trust Company, National Bank of North America, and the Bank of New York (Mullins, p. 179). [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Together, these banks owned about 63 percent of the New York Fed's outstanding stock. Mullins then showed that many of these banks are owned by about a dozen European banking organizations, mostly British, and most notably the Rothschild banking dynasty. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Through their American agents they are able to select the board of directors for the New York Fed and to direct U.S. monetary policy.[/SIZE]
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Now I am, NOT saying that this is in and of itself, a bad thing.
But clearly the fudiciary responsibility of the FED is to it's OWNERS, and not necessarily to the AMERICAN PEOPLE.
This is the nature of the GOLDEN RULE and regardless of how we are told that the FED works for US, that is patent nonsense when push comes to shove (as we so clearly saw thanks to this BAILOUT),
We work for the monied interests of this world and not the other way around.
And the FED is where that rubber really meets the road, folks.
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Yea this Hopey Changey Foreign Policy is pretty Helter Skelter. He acts tough and insulting towards our allies while at the same time bowing and apologizing to our enemies. Pretty bizarre stuff. Oh well,who really knows what's going on in the mind of a Saul Alinsky trained "Community Organizer?" Yikes!
Did all the cons posting in this thread forget to read the article?
The MPs in question specifically blame this decision on Bush and the Iraq war.
And yet, somehow it's Obama's fault.
Let's see for 8 years under Pres. Bush they were very cooperative according to the article, now after Obama's first year, they no longer wish to be good friends anymore.
Here is a test. Do you see any correlation?
Here's a test for you.
Define Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc.
You have 10 minutes, after that, your grade will be dropped one half letter for each minute.
Yea the whole 'Get tough on your allies/Lick your Enemies' Boots' Foreign Policy is getting to be pretty old. It looks like some bizarre Saul Alinsky concocted "Community Organizer" fantasy. Oh well,who really knows what's going on in the mind of an inexperienced "Community Organizer?"
