The Next Administration

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    1. It has become a waste of time to discuss whether or not Obama can/will win.
    He is more burned than Edgar Winter on an Ecuadoran beach.

    a. Even Democrats are scorching him. "Rep. Dennis Cardoza, D-Calif., announced his retirement from Congress this afternoon -- and he issued a scathing parting shot at President Obama's track record on his way out." Announcing Retirement, Dem Congressman Bashes Obama - Hotline On Call

    b. His poll numbers are down with every constituent group.

    c. Think he can come back? Two words: Unemployment, Debt.

    R.I.P.

    2. Oscar Wilde: “There are only two tragedies in life: one is not getting what one wants, and the other is getting it.”

    a. There is a very good chance the Republicans will controll the Executive, and the Legislative. Good? Are you happy with the current results of such a monopoly?

    b. The two periods of fiscal responsibility in six decades were the Eisenhower and the Clinton administrations, periods during which the presidency and Congress were controlled by different parties. William A. Niskanen, “A Case For Divided Government,” A Case for Divided Government | William A. Niskanen | Cato Institute: Daily Commentary

    c. The worst spending periods were those with one party in charge: 1967 and 1968, LBJ and the Democrats, spending increased 11.6% a year. Historical Tables | The White House (table 1.1)

    d. The largest average decrease came in 1955 and 1956, with spending decreasing an average 4.2% a year. Eisenhower was President, with Democrats in charge in Congress. Ibid.

    3. The good news? If the Republicans keep their promises, they should have at least eight years....and a couple of supreme court justices.

    a. "The common wisdom holds that 'both parties' have to appeal to the extremes during the primary and then move to the center for the general election. To the contrary, both parties run for office as conservatives. Once they have fooled the voters and are safely in office, Republicans sometimes double-cross the voters. Democrats always do."
    Coulter, 11-27-03

    4. Hope for the best, but expect the worst.
     
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    In reference to 2a, yes i'd be happy.
     
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    1. Your avi is incorrect. Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto was published in 1848.

    2. "A half-century before Karl Marx published the Communist Manifesto, there was Gracchus Babeuf’s Plebeian Manifesto, which was later renamed the Manifesto of the Equals. Babeuf’s early (1796) work has been described as socialist, anarchist, and communist, and has had an enormous impact. He wrote: “The French Revolution was nothing but a precursor of another revolution, on which will be bigger, more solemn, and which will be the last…We reach for something more sublime and more just: the common good or the community of goods! Nor more individual property in land: the land belongs to no one. We demand, we want, the common enjoyment of the fruits of the land: the fruits belong to all.”
    From a speech by Rev. Robert A. Sirico, President, Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty.
    Delivered at Hillsdale College, October 27, 2006


    3. You misread item 2a. It asks if you are happy with the current results of this monopoly.


    Aside from the above, your post was beyond perfection.
     
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    Don't count those chickens Pchick.

    The tender notion that it's all over for Obama is nothing but a GOP 2012 election talking point......I'd think differently if anyone polled over Obama by 5 points or so....haven't made up my mind yet though....cuz I'mn a swing voter
     
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    1) good catch, thnx.
    3) I think the GOP serving the house and senate have been doing a decent job....I'm not happy with the status quo, but I would welcome a strong GOP majority, despite the GOP letting us down in the past, when we did have majorities.
     
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    Tox....Pah-Leeeeeeeezzzzzzzz.

    John Wayne Gacy as a write in would win over this empty-suit....make that chalk-outline.



    Any GOP'er........Pay-Per-View

    Obama............Pay-Per-Weight
     
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    "...despite the GOP letting us down in the past...'

    There ya' go.


    Coulter again:
    "Republicans waste more time being afraid of Democrats than they do robbing orphan, evicting widows, helping corporations- you know, what we’re paying them to do."
     
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    I agree, Obama is done. After he was elected Pelosi said something like 'my biggest fear is that we wont do enough' after eight years of neocon damage to everything.

    Well here we are about 3 years later and everything he has done has proved to be an utter failure. Within 3 months of being elected he showed us all that his campain platform had zero effect on his policy.

    In truth Obama is no different then Bush. What has changed with any policy?? The only thing that has changed is what they blow money on.
     
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    Are you suggesting something? Perhaps we should vote for some dems?

    These are polarizing times, in large part because of our leadership, until the leadership changes there is an ideology war in our country, and the dems and gop candidates are mostly going to be hard liners.
     
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    I agree that Obama cannot overcome the unemployment numbers. Something worries me about the next Republican administration. The Republicans are not stupid enough to let unemployment dominate the headlines. They like to govern from the context of national security so they can win public support for their agenda. This will help them wrestle the headlines from the Democrats. Remember: Bush based the 2004 election on Iraq. He went from being a lackluster president with the worst job growth in history to a war president. Fox News obliged by streaming 24/7 color coded terror alerts. Every day there was a new terror plot leaked out to the hive. Once Bush left, we stopped hearing about the War on Terrorism.

    Problem is: the Republicans are coming back, and so is the war on terrorism - on steroids.

    This new administration will divert attention from the economy to national security.

    When Reagan spent twice as much as Carter, nobody noticed. When America went from being a creditor nation to the world's largest debtor, nobody noticed. We were blinded by the Evil Empire, which had been crumbling for decades. Same thing with Bush. When the largest housing bubble in the country's history was growing out of control, nobody noticed because we were fighting evil-doers, from Islamo-fascists to baby killing illegal atheist gay socialists.

    God help us. They're coming back. If you thought the war on terrorism was an expensive, overblown mess conducted by a corrupt wasteful government, than you ain't seen nothing yet. When the next Republican president bankrupts us with more unfunded wars (against petty dictators), you will not hear a peep from the Tea Party. Not a peep. Watch and learn people. Another war is coming.
     
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