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How can anyone know if they are "saved" or not? We may believe in something thinking it will save us, but none of us can really know it until we die.
The question posed was a matter of beliefs, not facts we can't back up.
How can anyone know if they are "saved" or not? We may believe in something thinking it will save us, but none of us can really know it until we die.
The question posed was a matter of beliefs, not facts we can't back up.
Because the messenger was asked two simple questions early in this thread and he refused to answer both on grounds he will incriminate himself, he won't lie either because saying he is saved but not actually being would be an unforgiveable lie in God's eyes.
I will not be proselytized to by a nonbeliever.
Tell us more about the leeway doctrine! :rotflmao:
RWA are you baptized?
Spin Deflect Spin Deflect Spin Deflect!Tell us more about the leeway doctrine! :rotflmao:
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Does my personal status effect the christian teachings in this matter?
Yes. Its a simple yes or no question.
I gotta admit--the leeway doctrine intrigues me too. More so than if RW got dipped ot not.
The leeay I was talking about has to do with God's mercy. If there is no mercy then why bring in a priest to pray with a convicted murderer like say Tookie Williams who would not repent?
I believe that God's limits on his mercy are unknown.
It doesn't matter re: what christianity teaches, but yes I have been baptized, in the episcopal church.
In other words "Why try" ?. God MIGHT forgive everything?
Two days, two fucking days to answer a simple yes or no question, now you wonder why people think you are nothing but an obfuscator and evader.
Oh and yes it does matter. Why don't you go and join a church where the preacher is not baptized, see how much respect he is given.
Then God would have to include ANYONE who refrained from things, no?
See? Christ established something - a concept? a plan? Before Christ, the path to heaven was 'earned' thru animal sacrifice, and ritual. Christ changed the path from "DO" to "Done". After Christ no amount of following 'law' would bring salvation. Christ was the final sacrifice for our sins, and ONLY asks that people believe it. The work of following rules is done. Christian's don't want to sin for fear of breaking LAW - Christians don't want to sin for fear of breaking God's heart. We don't want to sin because sin drives a wedge between us and Holiness/God.
Precisely right, and necessary, because we "all sin and fall short of the glory of God". Simply put, no one, no matter how pious, can follow the "law" well enough to earn Heaven.
Then Christians enter heaven the same way Muslims do except Christians say that they accept Jesus Christ as thier savior and not Mohammed?
The Bible is clear about how Christians can gain salvation, and ultimately Heaven. I'm sorry, but I do not know what Muslims do to enter Heaven, besides killing infidels, anyway.