The New Cold War

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    They're back. Putin has decided that Russia’s interests are best served in an adversarial role against NATO and the United States. So be it. America defeated the old Soviets and it will defeat the new Soviets. Putin has curtailed democracy, nationalized industry, and gagged the media. Yuri Andropov would be proud.

     
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    It's been going on for quite awhile now, Putin seems to have consolidated his power, knocked off serious voices of the press, and is now just making it official.
     
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    Suspending the CFE Treaty means that military tension and possible confrontation have returned. This is what bankrupted the old Soviets in the 1980s. Putin is a more refined version of Chavez, but just as totalitarian. It's going to get ugly with the Russians during the next ten years, as the old Soviet bosses reassert their authority with new petro dollars. Europe will regret that it has spent less than 2 percent GDP on defense during the past 20 years.
     
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    Yep, the oil is what has allowed Putin to reassert Russian power and I agree with you the inherent dangers. It's so unfortunate that the oil money wasn't available back in 1992-93, when real reform seemed possible.
     
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    This is a good sign. Links at site:

    http://www.samizdata.net/blog/archives/2007/07/well_done_to_uk.html


     
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    Russia and Putin are still angry about being run out of Afghanistan in the 1980s by the U.S. backed Al-Quada & Taliban. Now that Russia has finished licking her wounds of humiliation, she's trying to serve up America some of her own military and political medicine in the Middle East, by siding with America's foes.:badgrin:
     
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    During the 1980s Soviet war in Afghanistan, the US never aided Al Qaeda or the Taliban. Rather the US aided Pakistan and its intelligence service. It was Pakistan that directly aided insurgents in the Afghan war against the Soviets. US money funded to Pakistan for this purpose was called Operation Cyclone. The US maintains that its money was used to fund Afghan rebels and was never used to fund foreign Arabs or mujahideen.
     
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    All it took was a few years and some petro dollars for Putin to return the new Soviets to their old form:

     
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    Us gave money, weapons and instructors to the Afghans. Undirectly, they built what would became few years after the Talibans.
     
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    Wrong, the majority of the money went to the same groups we turned to to FIGHT the Taliban, the Northern groups.
     
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