The Nazi running as a Republican in IL-03...

[JoeB131]

They didn't "go with" the nazi at all. Jones, as well as the candidates in the other hopeless Chicago districts were self-selected and self financed. And since Illinois is an open primary state, any Democrat can also go in and ask for the GOP ballot to give it to this character.

Okay, except there was no reason for them to do so and give up their right to select a governor candidate, where we had quite an interesting race there...

Nope, the 22,000 Republicans who said, "We are totally cool with a Nazi" were Republicans, through and through.

Sure. Sure.. You just like to post Nazi pics.. Makes you feel important and powerful...

No, actually, I'm kind of saddened the GOP has become the home for these guys. You see, when David Duke became a thing in the 1990's, the GOP pulled out every stop to block him. Today, you have a Republican President calling them "Good People'.

This bigoted fool should receive ZERO votes,” Cruz declared.

yet he got 56,000 votes.

Such is the STUPIDITY of Repubs. Would have cost them less court time and advertising and grief to SIMPLY RUN A CANDIDATE.. They're massive idiots.

Or maybe make their party a place where racists like Jones would feel unwelcome... That would be a good idea, too.

You see, the real problem here is the inherent racism of the GOP. It has in effect become a White Identity Party. From Nixon's Southern Strategy to Reagan's Welfare Queens to Bush's Willie Horton Ad to just about everything that comes out of Trump's mouth, the GOP Message is designed to tell white folks that it's you against them.

So why wouldn't a Nazi like Arthur Jones feel right at home and 56,000 Republicans feel comfortable voting for him over a moderate/conservative Democrat?

 

[JoeB131]

Let him?
Are you saying you support Hillary and the DNC quashing Bernie Sanders?

Oh, absolutely. In fact, if anything, Hillary handled Commie Bernie with kid's gloves... and it was a mistake.

This *IS* a free country right? So an open racists bigot, still has the right to run, and people have the right to vote, do they not?

Meh, I think the Germans pretty much have it right. They throw their Nazis in Jail.

See, your attitude is exactly why Trump got elected. You keep trying to impose tyranny, and you drive people into the camps of these crazies.

What got Trump elected is that white people - or at least 55% of them, are too stupid to vote their own economic interests. The same White People who voted for Trump are the ones who voted for McCain after Bush crashed the economy, but not hate McCain's guts for losing.

What got Trump elected was all the twits who voted third party because Hillary "was a crook" who "had it in the bag".

Now, I would truly love for these 55% of idiots to stop voting against their own economic interests (and mine) and realize that minorities are pretty much in the same boat they are in... but the GOP has been playing this game with them since Tricky Dick...

That this DISEASE occasionally manifests itself in an ugly wart like Arthur Jones is kind of telling.

 

[Polishprince]

So why wouldn't a Nazi like Arthur Jones feel right at home and 56,000 Republicans feel comfortable voting for him over a moderate/conservative Democrat?

What makes you think that the 56,000 who voted for him were Republicans?

Illinois has an Australian type ballot. I doubt there are even 56,000 Republicans living in a far left district like the 3rd in Chicago.

BTW, the Democrats and racists like Byrd and Gore Sr. and George C. Wallace were always at home in the Democrat Party.

 

[Polishprince]

What got Trump elected is that white people - or at least 55% of them, are too stupid to vote their own economic interests.

Hillary Clinton didn't even go out into most of the country in 2016, denouncing tens of millions as deplorables, merely because they lived in flyover country and didn't share her love for Big Labor or Gender Bending.

 

[miketx]

It was a far left district that the Republican Party ignored completely.

It had nothing to do with the GOP.

Except 56,000 GOP voters voted for a Nazi, after being told he was a Nazi.

And it was hardly a "far left district". (I Grew up in that district.) Dan Lipinski (who went to the same grammar school I did) and his father, Bill, were notorious "Reagan Democrats".

The GOP at the very least could have gotten someone credible on the ballot, or failing that, worked for write-in candidate.

No, you still lie. No matter who they ran, you will claim they are a nazi.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Still managed to get 56,000 votes yesterday...

So you voted for him, good to know...

Expect something more? JoeB131 is wrong 997/1000 of the time. His batting avg is .003.


They call him "Mister Whoosh".

 

[JoeB131]

Bullshit. They ABANDONED the district. Like many districts were abandoned by the Dems. What's the sense of DEPENDING on just 2 parties if they just elect to lose in "unwinnable" districts?

I agree, Gerrymandering is a crime against Democracy that has added to the divisions... Still, the GOP STILL managed to find candidates to run in districts even more unwinnable than IL-03, which is 41% white.

If the system was healthy, one districts would HAVE competition from independents and 3rd parties with VALID candidate choices on the ballot. Why even VOTE -- if there's no selection of viable candidates?

Quite the Contrary, there was a contest in the primary between Danny boy and a Bernie supporter who came damned close to unseating him.

Maybe what we need to go to is a Jungle Primary system like LA and CA have. If a district is predominately Democratic, then let two Democrats duke it out in a runoff.

 

[JoeB131]

No, you still lie. No matter who they ran, you will claim they are a nazi.

Please point out where I called any Republican running in any other IL District a Nazi, including Peter Roskam.

Oh, that's right, I didn't.

 

[Polishprince]

It was a far left district that the Republican Party ignored completely.

It had nothing to do with the GOP.

Except 56,000 GOP voters voted for a Nazi, after being told he was a Nazi.

And it was hardly a "far left district". (I Grew up in that district.) Dan Lipinski (who went to the same grammar school I did) and his father, Bill, were notorious "Reagan Democrats".

The GOP at the very least could have gotten someone credible on the ballot, or failing that, worked for write-in candidate.

No, you still lie. No matter who they ran, you will claim they are a nazi.

Good point, Dubya was attacked for being a "nazi" for the actions of his grandfather who was a distinguished Senator. McCain was attacked as a "nazi" for opposing the MLK holiday, Trump because someone of the same name as his father was pinched near a Triple K rally long before he was born.

 

[miketx]

No, you still lie. No matter who they ran, you will claim they are a nazi.

Please point out where I called any Republican running in any other IL District a Nazi, including Peter Roskam.

Oh, that's right, I didn't.

You called the politician a nazi, liar, in the post i quoted, then you spin and deflect like every lying troll here.

 

[JoeB131]

You called the politician a nazi, liar, in the post i quoted, then you spin and deflect like every lying troll here.

I called Arthur Jones a Nazi because he's an admitted Nazi...

Please point out where I called ANY OTHER Republican running for Congress in IL a Nazi.

Thanks.

 

[Polishprince]

I called Arthur Jones a Nazi because he's an admitted Nazi...

Why did you call Dubya, McCain and Romney "nazis"?

Jones isn't the first to be attacked by liberals in this way. No wonder why he got so many votes, people like Dubya's policies and identified them as "nazi" because of Leftist propaganda.

 

[JoeB131]

Why did you call Dubya, McCain and Romney "nazis"?

I didn't. Next dumb question. I've called Dubya and Romney all sorts of names... McCain I kind of respected.

Jones isn't the first to be attacked by liberals in this way. No wonder why he got so many votes, people like Dubya's policies and identified them as "nazi" because of Leftist propaganda.

Dubya didn't deny the Holocaust like Jones did.

 

[miketx]

You called the politician a nazi, liar, in the post i quoted, then you spin and deflect like every lying troll here.

I called Arthur Jones a Nazi because he's an admitted Nazi...

Please point out where I called ANY OTHER Republican running for Congress in IL a Nazi.

Thanks.

I didn't say you called any one else a nazi, liar. Spinning and deflecting is what an enemy of the state does and you do it everyday. I said no matter WHO ran you would say they are a nazi. Stop lying liar.

 

[Polishprince]

I didn't. Next dumb question. I've called Dubya and Romney all sorts of names... McCain I kind of respected.

All three of those men were attacked by other liberals as racists and nazis, that's an established fact. If you didn't do it, fine.

But it still provides light as to why attacking someone as a "nazi" doesn't have as much sting as it did years ago. If the mild mannered Dubya and the boy scout Mittski got the label.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

It was a far left district that the Republican Party ignored completely.

It had nothing to do with the GOP.

Except 56,000 GOP voters voted for a Nazi, after being told he was a Nazi.

And it was hardly a "far left district". (I Grew up in that district.) Dan Lipinski (who went to the same grammar school I did) and his father, Bill, were notorious "Reagan Democrats".

The GOP at the very least could have gotten someone credible on the ballot, or failing that, worked for write-in candidate.

I have to hear about a socialist extremist running for a national office as president. What exactly makes him “credible” to run for that office? What I DO know is that liberal democrats love to throw around the term Nazi, as many have done in the pastto use in trying to stereotype a republican candidate. I have even seen swastikas painted on a campaign sign for George W Bush initial run for the Presidency, I have seen black republicans being called an Uncle Tom for running as a Republican. Democrats are very racist and condenscending towards ANY candidate that does not share in their ideological views as a Republican. At least I know the political positions (education, health care, etc) of Mr Sanders that gives weight to who he is. However, right or wrong, we live in a country where any individual, if he chooses, can run for office as a representative of any party. If we are to now include certain “parameters” that someone MUST meet to be eligible to run, which our United States Constitution does not support nor provide, then in similar point no SOCIALIST has any right to run for any national office - Senator, House, Vice President, or President.

You complain about one who you are referencing as a Nazi, while we have so many more running under and supporting socialist beliefs. Just how racist are you?

 

[Andylusion]

Let him?
Are you saying you support Hillary and the DNC quashing Bernie Sanders?

Oh, absolutely. In fact, if anything, Hillary handled Commie Bernie with kid's gloves... and it was a mistake.

This *IS* a free country right? So an open racists bigot, still has the right to run, and people have the right to vote, do they not?

Meh, I think the Germans pretty much have it right. They throw their Nazis in Jail.

See, your attitude is exactly why Trump got elected. You keep trying to impose tyranny, and you drive people into the camps of these crazies.

What got Trump elected is that white people - or at least 55% of them, are too stupid to vote their own economic interests. The same White People who voted for Trump are the ones who voted for McCain after Bush crashed the economy, but not hate McCain's guts for losing.

What got Trump elected was all the twits who voted third party because Hillary "was a crook" who "had it in the bag".


Now, I would truly love for these 55% of idiots to stop voting against their own economic interests (and mine) and realize that minorities are pretty much in the same boat they are in... but the GOP has been playing this game with them since Tricky Dick...

That this DISEASE occasionally manifests itself in an ugly wart like Arthur Jones is kind of telling.

So you actually support the DNC and Hillary, sabotaging other candidates?


They do not appear to be thrown in jail.

What got Trump elected is that white people - or at least 55% of them, are too stupid to vote their own economic interests.

I'm assuming you are a left-winger, because I typically don't hear that statement from right-wingers.

You left-wingers keep saying that, but every time you people are in charge, you destroy your country.

People like you seem oblivious to that fact that every time government does something for the people, they have to pay for it by taking the wealth from the people.

I just had a friend from German, who was visiting her family, send me a bill for a 20-pc chicken nugget meal. $20. For 20 chicken nuggets? I looked on the bill, 20% sales tax. I asked her how a middle class family can afford an automobile, with a 20% sales tax.

Her answer was "Old cars". So apparently a new car in Germany, the auto manufacturing capital of Europe, is now a luxury of the rich.

Your social programs are not free to the middle class. Not by a long shot. This is why every country the jumps head first in the left-wing ideology all end up like Greece, Venezuela, and Cuba. You don't provide for the economic interest of the middle class. You destroy the middle class.

Everyone keeps saying the middle class in America is worse off.... yeah.. I agree. They are. And America is more socialized today, than at any time in US history. These two facts, are not coincidence.

 

[Andylusion]

Bullshit. They ABANDONED the district. Like many districts were abandoned by the Dems. What's the sense of DEPENDING on just 2 parties if they just elect to lose in "unwinnable" districts?

I agree, Gerrymandering is a crime against Democracy that has added to the divisions... Still, the GOP STILL managed to find candidates to run in districts even more unwinnable than IL-03, which is 41% white.

If the system was healthy, one districts would HAVE competition from independents and 3rd parties with VALID candidate choices on the ballot. Why even VOTE -- if there's no selection of viable candidates?

Quite the Contrary, there was a contest in the primary between Danny boy and a Bernie supporter who came damned close to unseating him.

Maybe what we need to go to is a Jungle Primary system like LA and CA have. If a district is predominately Democratic, then let two Democrats duke it out in a runoff.

How it is a crime?
Based on what?
Are you really saying, that the people in those states, are not allowed to determine how their state operates?
And if you are, what is your alternative? Have the Federal government enforce districts? You want Trump and the Republicans, forcing states to draw districts they way they want?

What is your alternative? Let's hear it.

 

[JoeB131]

I didn't say you called any one else a nazi, liar. Spinning and deflecting is what an enemy of the state does and you do it everyday. I said no matter WHO ran you would say they are a nazi. Stop lying liar.

YOu are twisting yourself in knots, buddy. Here let me summarize.

Mike : Joe would have called anyone running a Nazi.

Joe: Um, no, there were all sorts of Republicans running in races in IL, and I didn't call any of them Nazis. I also didn't call anyone running in IL-03 in the past a Nazi.

also, when you talk about "enemies of the state", that kind of sounds like something a Nazi would say.

 

[JoeB131]

How it is a crime?
Based on what?
Are you really saying, that the people in those states, are not allowed to determine how their state operates?
And if you are, what is your alternative? Have the Federal government enforce districts? You want Trump and the Republicans, forcing states to draw districts they way they want?

What is your alternative? Let's hear it.

Districts drawn up by bipartisan panels, with legal requirements that they must be geographically compact and not designed to have a predetermined result. Problem solved.