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nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law
So... you're for random people being detained and searched by police with no probable cause?
Sounds like a Fascist nightmare-state to me...
Isn't there something in the 5th amendment about that? Ah yes, I remember now:
nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law
Yeah, that's be the one.
May I guess that you are also against the rolling Road Blocks also known as DUI Checkpoints?
May I guess that you are also against the rolling Road Blocks also known as DUI Checkpoints?
A DUI Checkpoint does not search or seize anything unless there is probable cause, as far as I know.
But they kind of bother me too, yeah.
They are searching you. They have seized you. You are not free to go about your way until they release you.
They are searching you. They have seized you. You are not free to go about your way until they release you.
They stop you from moving forward.
They ask you some questions.
They follow specific guidelines to determine "probable cause".
If there is probable cause, they do search and seizure.
In the New York stop and searches, they detain you and physically search you. Period.
No probable cause, no reading of rights, nothing.
The last time I was caught up in one of these "safety checkpoints", I asked if I was free to go as soon as the officer came to my car.
When he said "No" I asked under what specific authority I was being detained under. I then quoted the 4th Amendment to the officer.
He looked at me, looked in the backseat of my car, which usually looks like a bomb has gone off back there, and said it would take too long to search my car, so he waived me through.
So... you're for random people being detained and searched by police with no probable cause?
Sounds like a Fascist nightmare-state to me...
Isn't there something in the 5th amendment about that? Ah yes, I remember now:
nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law
Yeah, that's be the one.
May I guess that you are also against the rolling Road Blocks also known as DUI Checkpoints?
they are going into gang infested neighborhoods and searching people acting suspiciously ..and it is working.. the the drop in the crime rate proves this fact !!So... you're for random people being detained and searched by police with no probable cause?
Sounds like a Fascist nightmare-state to me...
Isn't there something in the 5th amendment about that? Ah yes, I remember now:
nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law
Yeah, that's be the one.
they are going into gang infested neighborhoods and searching people acting suspiciously ..and it is working.. the the drop in the crime rate proves this fact !!
the NAACP against random searches in NYC !!
Never mind the fact that NYC now has the lowest homicide rate it has had in 50 yrs ,and that an estimated 10,000 less deaths have occurred in the black community because of these searches !! N.Y. police challenged on illegal stops and searches ? USATODAY.com
political correctness is deadly !!
They are searching you. They have seized you. You are not free to go about your way until they release you.
They stop you from moving forward.
They ask you some questions.
They follow specific guidelines to determine "probable cause".
If there is probable cause, they do search and seizure.
In the New York stop and searches, they detain you and physically search you. Period.
No probable cause, no reading of rights, nothing.
They are searching you. They have seized you. You are not free to go about your way until they release you.
They stop you from moving forward.
They ask you some questions.
They follow specific guidelines to determine "probable cause".
If there is probable cause, they do search and seizure.
In the New York stop and searches, they detain you and physically search you. Period.
No probable cause, no reading of rights, nothing.
The last time I was caught up in one of these "safety checkpoints", I asked if I was free to go as soon as the officer came to my car.
When he said "No" I asked under what specific authority I was being detained under. I then quoted the 4th Amendment to the officer.
He looked at me, looked in the backseat of my car, which usually looks like a bomb has gone off back there, and said it would take too long to search my car, so he waived me through.
