RoccoR
Gold Member
pbel, et al,
Oh come now.
There is no Arab culture that has any right to raise a "moral question" given their history of barbarity. However, as to authority, that is easy.
The authority came from the Muslims, by Treaty, through the Turkish Government, the successor nation to the Ottoman Empire.
Luck of the draw. The Allied Powers deemed it a logical place. You can agree or not. But it was their decision.
And the reaction of the Arabs complicated the matter. Three wrongs even make it less right.
Most Respectfully,
R
Oh come now.
P F Tinmore, et al,
I don't necessarily disagree with anything you said.
(COMMENT)Interesting that they did not mention Israel. Palestine was mentioned though.
BTW, the armistice lines were lines that were not to be crossed by military forces.
They specifically were not to be considered political or territorial boundaries. They did not define any state or territory.
I think that everyone understood what happened, from the position the Arab Higher Committee had taken.
It is fairly plain.
- Israel completed the preparatory steps to independence, IAW GA/RES/181(II).
- Israel declared independence as coordinated with the UN Palestine Commission.
- The Arab League & Arab Higher Committee did not like the outcome.
- The Arab League & Arab Higher Committee opened up Hostilities to take by military force, the territory they unilateral declared as theirs.
- The military forces of The Arab League & irregular forces or the Arab Higher Committee had unsuccessful engagements and lost control of approximately 50% of the territory allocated by UN recommendation to the Arab State.
Now after 60 years of conflict, the successors of the Arab Higher Committee are still trying to overturn the UN decisions through war and terrorism.
Remember, it was the Arab that tried to take is all, not the Israeli.
Most Respectfully,
R
(COMMENT)Tell us under what Moral authority did the Arabs have to share anything, It had been under their control by Islamic Regimes for two millennia which protected the residents left there since the Diaspora.
There is no Arab culture that has any right to raise a "moral question" given their history of barbarity. However, as to authority, that is easy.
The authority came from the Muslims, by Treaty, through the Turkish Government, the successor nation to the Ottoman Empire.
Part III - Treaty of Sevres said:ARTICLE 139
Turkey renounces formally all rights of suzerainty or jurisdiction of any kind over Moslems who are subject to the sovereignty or protectorate of any other State.
Part III - Treaty of Sevres said:ARTICLE 95
The High Contracting Parties agree to entrust, by application of the provisions of Article 22, the administration of Palestine, within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, to a Mandatory to be selected by the said Powers. The Mandatory will be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2, 1917, by the British Government, and adopted by the other Allied Powers, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.
Part III - Treaty of Sevres said:ARTICLE 97
Turkey hereby undertakes, in accordance with the provisions of Article 132, to accept any decisions which may be taken in relation to the questions dealt with in this Section.
SOURCE: Treaty of Sevres
(COMMENT)Although I dearly sympathize with the plight of the Jews after WWll, why did the Arabs have to pay for atrocities against Jews by European Christians?
Luck of the draw. The Allied Powers deemed it a logical place. You can agree or not. But it was their decision.
(COMMENT)That's really the Moral crux of the matter. Two wrongs have never made a right.
And the reaction of the Arabs complicated the matter. Three wrongs even make it less right.
Most Respectfully,
R