The Myth of Occupied Territories

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    The Myth of Occupied Territories

    One of the most misused, misapplied, and misunderstood definitions in the dictionary of the Arab-Israeli conflict is the term "occupied territories." The vast majority of people simply do not know the facts or misinterpret them, thus completely distorting the real picture of the land distribution between the Arabs and the Jews. The truth of the matter is that, according to international law, the Jews have the complete and unquestionable right to settle the territories of Judea, Samaria and Gaza (collectively known as Yesha). Not a single enforceable international document exists that forbids them from settling the lands of Yesha.

    On the contrary, the only existing enforceable document actually encourages Jewish settlement. This document was created on April 24, 1920 at the San Remo Conference when the Principal Allied Powers agreed o assign the Mandate for the territory of Palestine to Great Britain. By doing so the League of Nations "recognized the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine" and established "grounds for econstituting their national home in that country." Article 6 of the Mandate "encouraged close settlement by Jews on the land," including the lands of Judea, Samaria and Gaza (Yesha). There is nothing whatsoever in the Mandate that separates Yesha from the rest of the mandated territory. That means that the right of the Jews to settle the land spreads to the whole of Palestine. As a side note it is worth mentioning that the 76% of the territory of Mandated Palestine known today as Jordan, were not permanently exempt from settlement by the Jews either. Article 25 only allowed to "postpone or withhold application of [this] provision."

    With the disbanding of the League of Nations, the rights of the Jews to settle the territories of Palestine, including Yesha, were not hurt. When in 1946 the United Nations was created in place of the League of Nations, its Charter included Article 80 specifically to allow the continuation of existing Mandates (including the British Mandate). Article 80 stated that "nothing ... shall be construed in or of itself to alter in any manner the rights whatsoever of any peoples or the terms of existing international instruments to which Members of the United Nations may respectively be parties."

    Then in November 1947 came time for Resolution 181, which recommended the Partition of Palestine. Like all UN Resolutions pertaining to the Jewish-Arab conflict it was not enforceable. It was simply arecommendation, and the Arab countries rejected it. As the Syrian representative in the General Assembly stated:

    "In the first place the recommendations of the General Assembly are not imperative on those to whom they are addressed. The General Assembly only gives advice and the parties to whom advice is addressed accept it when it is rightful and just and when it does not impair their fundamental rights" (1)

    If the resolution had been implemented maybe it would be possible to argue that it replaced the San Remo Conference resolution, which had legitimized the rights of the Jews to settle in any place in Palestine. However, it was not only rejected by the Arabs, but in violation of the UN Charter they launched a military aggression against the newly reborn Jewish state thus invalidating the resolution. By the time of the cease-fire at the end of the War of Independence there was still no other enforceable document pertaining to the rights of the Jews to settle Eretz Yisrael - they remained intact.
     
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    bond you are skating on thin ice we have already been informed that the war of
    1948 NEVER HAPPENED ---there was no fighting by arab muslims against jews by
    any arab muslims from any country. There was violence---consisting only of mass
    executions and death marches imposed on arab muslims by jews. It was during this time
    that the CONCENTRATION CAMP of GAZA was created by THE JEWS I know about'
    this INFAMOUS CONCENTRATION CAMP IN ISRAEL because I read about it in 1960---It was
    a small magazine style publication complete with pictures of starving people behind
    barbed wire. It was PUBLISHED, IT WAS A REAL MAGAZINE LOOKING THING-----and
    I believed it-------so it must be true I was a bit young ----but not stupid----I KNEW WHAT
    A CONCENTRATION CAMP IS
     
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    I have to disagree. There are indeed occupied territories in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. And unless & until Israel finds a way to end it by freeing the Palestinians back to their indigenous homelands, there will be no peace.



     
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    It is true that Jewish citizens of Palestine can live anywhere they want. It says so in Palestine's constitution.
     
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    Agentbond...I'm going to take a wild guess that you are a mongoloid...are you familiar with residency rights acquired over a 13 century period? Does the UN Charter ring any cosncious bells in that otherwise vacant space between your ears...it amazes me that you simpleminded agitprop-automotons churn this shit out with nary a clue a to what any of it means...you are a mindless reciter of lies...ask yourself where the term "occupied territories" originated, and the body of the world that acknolwledges it...moron
     
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    You cannot move into an area and automatically have more rights than the people already living there for generations.
     
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    How to win friends and influence people: Be a pompous ass and insult strangers. That's how a dickheaded colledge perfesser with a BS in BS does it.
     
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    I am trying to understand why arabs can live in Israel -----but somehow ----the idea of jews living in such places as HEBRON seems illegal to some people
     
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    Palestinian mentality, as MJB puts it.
     
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    It is perfectly legal for Palestinian Jews to live anywhere in Palestine.

     

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