The men who built America

[Steelplate]

here is what the yinzers sleep with

Once again....have nothing? ATTACK. No skin off my nose, chum...just makes you look like the inbred microcephalic you are.

you said there was NO competition back then.

where is your proof?

no competition in railroads?
Banking?
Fur trade?
manufacturing?
firearms?

let's see it Shitpile

Asked you, or someone else....first. I asked to be proved wrong....you chose to attack me....not because You proved me wrong, not because of what I wrote....but because I'm a Steelers fan of all things. So....the challenge is still there....show me how these "men who built America" had all of this competition and they just did it better.

No, they were ruthless snakes who got where they were by steamrolling everyone that got in their way, drove their employees heartlessly and paid them shit.

BTW, You mentioned firearms?....look up the Hall Carbine Affair....seems your boy Morgan bought a stockpile of known defective rifles that were previously rejected by the military at $3.50 a piece and sold them back to the government for $22/ per.....promising that they weren't the defective batch. Nice guy you have for a God there, bud.

 

[francoHFW]

Read "The Good Old Days- They were Terrible"-- I'l give you Ford though- he paid his workers enough that they could buy the cars...

The Unions and the Greatest Generation CEOs gave us the paradise of the 50-70's, Pubs have been screwing it up ever since- see sig pp1.

 

[emptystep]

DVR.....The men who REALLY built America weren't rich tychoons. The men who built America slaved and worked their asses off...laying brick and mortar, clearing forests, driving rail spikes. The Tychoons just had money.....they didn't build shit.

The world has always had grunts, dude.

Labor is capital's lil' bitch.

Does the same go for SEAL teams?

 

[Steelplate]

It is Communism when the government decides what a "fair day's pay" is. A fair day's pay is whatever someone is willing to pay you voluntarily, and not once cent more.

Wrong....a fair day's pay is something that you can raise a family on....not get rich, but live a decent life and prepare for your future.....especially if you guys get your way and dismantle the safety nets that allow the elderly to live in dignity and the poor to have a roof over their heads.

Hey...I'd prefer to keep government out of it. But their isn't anyone volunteering, is there?

Sez the libtard pounding out posts on a computer made by slave laborers, which he bought because he got such a bitchin deal on it!


LOL

Actually, I'm on a Kindle Fire....but....stupid strawman nonetheless. Who's country is more important to you? Theirs or ours? Who's people? Where's YOUR patriotism? You support this agenda? You are as much of a traitor as the Conglomerate.

You make dumb fucking excuses and build strawmen to protect your Gods.

 

[bripat9643]

DVR.....The men who REALLY built America weren't rich tychoons. The men who built America slaved and worked their asses off...laying brick and mortar, clearing forests, driving rail spikes. The Tychoons just had money.....they didn't build shit.

The rich were rich because they organize those men to build America. It takes a brain.

No....they were rich because they had no competition and when one would creep up, they'd squash them. Of course, worshiping tyranny and ruthlessness as your God is nothing new. I see it on here all the time.

Your a Marxists sap. You're preaching the gospel of envy.

Face it: those men were better than you. That's why they got rich and you live in a mobile home.

 

[SniperFire]

Once again....have nothing? ATTACK. No skin off my nose, chum...just makes you look like the inbred microcephalic you are.

you said there was NO competition back then.

where is your proof?

no competition in railroads?
Banking?
Fur trade?
manufacturing?
firearms?

let's see it Shitpile

Asked you, or someone else....first. I asked to be proved wrong....you chose to attack me....not because You proved me wrong, not because of what I wrote....but because I'm a Steelers fan of all things. So....the challenge is still there....show me how these "men who built America" had all of this competition and they just did it better.

No, they were ruthless snakes who got where they were by steamrolling everyone that got in their way, drove their employees heartlessly and paid them shit.

BTW, You mentioned firearms?....look up the Hall Carbine Affair....seems your boy Morgan bought a stockpile of known defective rifles that were previously rejected by the military at $3.50 a piece and sold them back to the government for $22/ per.....promising that they weren't the defective batch. Nice guy you have for a God there, bud.

You are attacked because you are a fucking idiot. All of these men ROSE FROM OBSCURITY by outwitting the completion. They didn't just roll out of bed on morning pennyless and decide to start themselves a monopoly.

Stupid inbred Yinzer.

 

[bripat9643]

Cuba sucks. This is why you're wrong as it doesn't do anyone any good. We need a system that allows people to build a business to give people jobs...

It may suck but life isn't all cherry's and butterflies.

How is Cuba part of this discussion?

Cuba put your ideas into practice.

 

[francoHFW]

You dupes love stabbing yourself in the face for your heroes the greedy rich LOL!

 

[Duped]

Fair = fair market value; capitalism! If you don't like it leave it!

 

[OKTexas]

DVR.....The men who REALLY built America weren't rich tychoons. The men who built America slaved and worked their asses off...laying brick and mortar, clearing forests, driving rail spikes. The Tychoons just had money.....they didn't build shit.

Like you can build anything withour money, grow up.

 

[Steelplate]

The rich were rich because they organize those men to build America. It takes a brain.

No....they were rich because they had no competition and when one would creep up, they'd squash them. Of course, worshiping tyranny and ruthlessness as your God is nothing new. I see it on here all the time.

Your a Marxists sap. You're preaching the gospel of envy.

Face it: those men were better than you. That's why they got rich and you live in a mobile home.

No....I live in a nice, but modest three bedroom rancher with 2 1/2 baths...my wife and I combined make $110k year and are doing just fine.....we put our first through college without taking a loan and are working on putting our second through now. Save your idiotic stereotyping....it ain't flying with me.....

But once again......ATTACK! We got nothing! Get personal! That'll fix 'em!

Face it....you're fucking stooges.

 

[bripat9643]

you know I'm right....can't refute it....so you act like an asshole. Typical of the right. Can't debate, so attack. Rush taught you well.

never listened to rush, but I know what a yinzer is

oh, and yes there was competition. Some people actually went bankrupt. Ever pick up a history book?

Oh, never mind. I forgot you are a yinzer.

Really? by 1890, Standard oil controlled 88% of all the oil in the country...they were charged with monopolistic and anti-trust suits.

Why don't you learn shit other than right wing revisionist history? Hell....even a "yinzer" can do it....shouldn't be so hard for a "big brain"like yours.

Where did you get that figure? Standard Oil had plenty of competitors. Their main complaint against Standard Oil is that it kept lowering its prices, not raising them. Every year Standard Oil was in business the price of Kerosene went down.

 

[SniperFire]

Wrong....a fair day's pay is something that you can raise a family on....not get rich, but live a decent life and prepare for your future.....especially if you guys get your way and dismantle the safety nets that allow the elderly to live in dignity and the poor to have a roof over their heads.

Hey...I'd prefer to keep government out of it. But their isn't anyone volunteering, is there?

Sez the libtard pounding out posts on a computer made by slave laborers, which he bought because he got such a bitchin deal on it!


LOL

Actually, I'm on a Kindle Fire....but....stupid strawman nonetheless. Who's country is more important to you? Theirs or ours? Who's people? Where's YOUR patriotism? You support this agenda? You are as much of a traitor as the Conglomerate.

You make dumb fucking excuses and build strawmen to protect your Gods.

Does the point fly over your head, Yinzer, that the product purchase decisions YOU make determine what a 'fair days wage' will be?

 

[Steelplate]

DVR.....The men who REALLY built America weren't rich tychoons. The men who built America slaved and worked their asses off...laying brick and mortar, clearing forests, driving rail spikes. The Tychoons just had money.....they didn't build shit.

Like you can build anything withour money, grow up.

"Our" money? oh.....you a tychoon? Tychoons don't get on Internet message boards. You're a working class stiff, just.like the rest of us.

 

[bripat9643]

So? Should they have been just given it? Let me guess....the workers that they drove into the ground deserved it.

Well give it to me does seem to be the mantra of the left. What about the workers who took the jobs and money they were paid and used that to build homes and provide for their families and even gasp start their own businesses? Here is a little something for you to think about though I doubt you will when these men were trying build there businesses there were no safety nets for them no corporate welfare no government bailouts they took the chances and the risk and either reaped the benefits of success or the loss that came with failure.

Don't know much about labor conditions back then do you? They didn't call it the "robber/baron" era for nothing.

A commie coined the term "Robber Baron." Rockefeller and Henry Ford never robbed anyone. In fact, they made a lot of people fabulously wealthy.

 

[Mr. H.]

The important thing to remember is that no one entity owns 88% of the oil in America today.

 

[Steelplate]

Sez the libtard pounding out posts on a computer made by slave laborers, which he bought because he got such a bitchin deal on it!


LOL

Actually, I'm on a Kindle Fire....but....stupid strawman nonetheless. Who's country is more important to you? Theirs or ours? Who's people? Where's YOUR patriotism? You support this agenda? You are as much of a traitor as the Conglomerate.

You make dumb fucking excuses and build strawmen to protect your Gods.

Does the point fly over your head, Yinzer, that the product purchase decisions YOU make determine what a 'fair days wage' will be?

Oh....let me guess, you have a union made American computer? Even if you have one that is ASSEMBLED here....where are the parts made? STFU.

 

[Steelplate]

The important thing to remember is that no one entity owns 88% of the oil in America today.

we aren't talking about today....are we?

 

[SniperFire]

Actually, I'm on a Kindle Fire....but....stupid strawman nonetheless. Who's country is more important to you? Theirs or ours? Who's people? Where's YOUR patriotism? You support this agenda? You are as much of a traitor as the Conglomerate.

You make dumb fucking excuses and build strawmen to protect your Gods.

Does the point fly over your head, Yinzer, that the product purchase decisions YOU make determine what a 'fair days wage' will be?

Oh....let me guess, you have a union made American computer? Even if you have one that is ASSEMBLED here....where are the parts made? STFU.

Does the point fly over your head, Yinzer, that the product purchase decisions YOU make determine what a 'fair days wage' will be?[/QUOTE]

 

[Steelplate]

Well give it to me does seem to be the mantra of the left. What about the workers who took the jobs and money they were paid and used that to build homes and provide for their families and even gasp start their own businesses? Here is a little something for you to think about though I doubt you will when these men were trying build there businesses there were no safety nets for them no corporate welfare no government bailouts they took the chances and the risk and either reaped the benefits of success or the loss that came with failure.

Don't know much about labor conditions back then do you? They didn't call it the "robber/baron" era for nothing.

A commie coined the term "Robber Baron." Rockefeller and Henry Ford never robbed anyone. In fact, they made a lot of people fabulously wealthy.

yeahhhhhhh......Commies.....any other goalposts you want to move around?

Once again.....can't refute....ATTACK.....or use stupid fucking talking points.