The Media, They?

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    Watching Bill O'Reilly's lead in to his Obama interview and he and Karl Rove keep referring the media as "they." Does O'Reilly not consider HIMSELF a member of the media?

    He said GOP politicians don't like the media because "they" are biased toward Democrats.." (one example of the "they" comment only)
     
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    <in my best O'Reilly voice>

    They were talking about the liberal media sir, of which Bill O'Reilly is certainly...not-a-member.




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    Did he then yell out:

    "Let's do it LIVE!!!!"


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tJjNVVwRCY[/ame]
     
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    He does not consider himself part of the mainstream media, and technically, he is not part of the news media. He has a news opinion/editorial show. He does not report the news.

    Doesn't "they" seem a lot easier than "the leftwing-biased mainstream media" to say each time?
     
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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpOSgT-osHk]YouTube - Bill O'Reilly Shouts Down Al Franken[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tJjNVVwRCY]YouTube - Bill O'Reilly Flips Out[/ame]

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    Immortal Technique - 4th Branch Lyrics


    The voice of racism preaching the gospel is devilish
    A fake church called the prophet Muhammad a terrorist
    Forgetting God is not a religion, but a spiritual bond
    And Jesus is the most quoted prophet in the Qu'ran
    They bombed innocent people, tryin' to murder Saddam
    When you gave him those chemical weapons to go to war with Iran
    This is the information that they hold back from Peter Jennings
    Cause Condoleeza Rice is just a new age Sally Hemmings
    I break it down with critical language and spiritual anguish
    The Judas I hang with, the guilt of betraying Christ
    You murdered and stole his religion, and painting him white
    Translated in psychologically tainted philosophy
    Conservative political right wing, ideology
    Glued together sloppily, the blasphemy of a nation
    Got my back to the wall, cause I'm facin' assassination
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    Indigenous holocaust, and the home of the slaves
    Corporate America, dancin' offbeat to the rhythm
    You really think this country, never sponsored terrorism?
    Human rights violations, we continue the saga
    El Savador and the contras in Nicaragua
    And on top of that, you still wanna take me to prison
    Just cause I won't trade humanity for patriotism

    [Hook]
    It's like MK-ULTRA, controlling your brain
    Suggestive thinking, causing your perspective to change
    They wanna rearrange the whole point of view of the ghetto
    The fourth branch of the government, want us to settle
    A bandana full of glittering, generality
    Fighting for freedom and fighting terror, but what's reality?
    Read about the history of the place that we live in
    And stop letting corporate news tell lies to your children

    [Verse 2]
    Flow like the blood of Abraham through the Jews and the Arabs
    Broken apart like a woman's heart, abused in a marriage
    The brink of holy war, bottled up, like a miscarriage
    Embedded correspondents don't tell the source of the tension
    And they refuse to even mention, European intervention
    Or the massacres in Jenin, the innocent screams
    U.S. manufactured missles, and M-16's
    Weapon contracts and corrupted American dreams
    Media censorship, blocking out the video screens
    A continent of oil kingdoms, bought for a bargain
    Democracy is just a word, when the people are starvin'
    The average citizen, made to be, blind to the reason
    A desert full of genocide, where the bodies are freezin'
    And the world doesn't believe that you fightin' for freedom
    Cause you fucked the Middle East, and gave birth to a demon
    It's open season with the CIA, bugging my crib
    Trapped in a ghetto region like a Palestinian kid
    Where nobody gives a fuck whether you die or you live
    I'm tryin' to give the truth, and I know the price is my life
    But when I'm gone they'll sing a song about Immortal Technique
    Who beheaded the President, and the princes and sheiks
    You don't give a fuck about us, I can see through your facade
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    Bitch niggaz scared of the truth, when it looks at you hard

    [Hook]
    It's like MK-ULTRA, controlling your brain
    Suggestive thinking, causing your perspective to change
    They wanna rearrange the whole point of view in the ghetto
    The fourth branch of the government, want us to settle
    A bandana full of glittering, generality
    Fighting for freedom and fighting terror, but what's reality?
    Martial law is coming soon to the hood, to kill you
    While you hanging your flag out your project window


    The fourth branch of the government AKA the media
    Seems to now have a retirement plan for ex-military officials
    As if their opinion was at all unbiased
    A machine shouldn't speak for men
    So shut the fuck up you mindless drone!
    And you know it's serious
    When these same media outfits are spending millions of dollars on a PR campaign
    To try to convince you they're fair and balanced
    When they're some of the most ignorant, and racist people
    Giving that type of mentality a safe haven
    We act like we share in the spoils of war that they do
    We die in wars, we don't get the contracts to make money off 'em afterwards!
    We don't get weapons contracts, nigga!
    We don't get cheap labor for our companies, nigga!
    We are cheap labor, nigga!
    Turn off the news and read, nigga!
    Read... read... read...

    Immortal Technique - 4th Branch Lyrics
     
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    WTF? :cuckoo:
     
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    not cuckoo..just beyond your understanding ...there is a distinct difference


    Fourth branch of government
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    In the American political system, the fourth branch of government refers to a group that influences the three branches of governance defined in the American Constitution (legislative, judicial, and executive). Such groups can include the press (an analogy to the French Fourth Estate), the people, interest groups. U.S. independent administrative government agencies, while technically part of the executive branch (or, in a few cases, the legislative branch) of government, are sometimes referred to as being part of the fourth branch.

    In some cases the term is pejorative because such a fourth branch has no official status. The term is also widely used as a picturesque phrase without derogatory intent. Where the use is intended to be pejorative, it can be a rhetorical shorthand to illustrate the user's belief in the illegitimacy of certain types of governmental authority with a concomitant skepticism towards the origin of such authority.

    Fourth branch of government - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The press
    The concept of the media or press as a fourth branch stems from a belief that the news media's responsibility to inform the populace is essential to the healthy functioning of the democracy. However, the present press configuration is widely known to have lost it's original intent of objectivity and tends to lean toward the bias and agendii of it's practitioners.[1] The phrase "Fourth Estate" may be used to emphasise the independence of the press particularly when this is contrasted with the press as a "fourth branch".[
     
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    Here's some media for ya:


    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8Kw9qRHTek]YouTube - Republican Hypocracy Defends Palin[/ame]
     
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    Opinion and journalism are two different things.

    reporting the news via television and print is supposed to be journalism; the impartial, unbiased account of the facts with no subjectivity.

    OReilly, Mattews, Oberland et al are NOT journalists. they are basically op Eds on TV where they are free to let their personal opinions color their commentary.
     

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