The Man Who Could Have Changed History

[rightwinger]

If 9/11 had happened under a President Powell's, the US might have been less likely to respond by waging a second war in Iraq. Our response to 9/11 may well have been limited to hitting Afghanistan, keeping the international coalition against terrorism intact under a president who had been part of winning a war



9/11 happened under Bush. It was Colin Powell who spun the yellowcake myth in front of the UN advocating an invasion of Iraq

It ruined Powell’s credibility

Anyone but Bush II who was under the influence of The DICK Cheney and the neocons would not have declared war on a noun, terrorism. They would have labeled those who flew into the twin towers criminals, and instead of invading other nations put together International Police from every nation which lost a citizen on the horrible day 9-11.

No question Al Gore would not have invaded Iraq

Few would

 

[bodecea]

One man could have changed the course of history, and he had the opportunity to do so handed to him on a silver platter, free for the taking. Who is that man; Can you guess?

He was a professional soldier for 35 years, holding a variety of command and staff positions and rising to the rank of General. He was Ronald Reagan's National Security Advisor, serving from 1987 to 1989 while retaining his Army commission as a lieutenant general. In April 1989, after his tenure with the National Security Council, Powell was promoted to four-star general under President George H. W. Bush and briefly served as the Commander in Chief, Forces Command (FORSCOM), overseeing all Army, Army Reserve, and National Guard units in the Continental U.S., Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico. He became the third general since World War II to reach four-star rank without ever serving as a division commander, joining Dwight D. Eisenhower and Alexander Haig. Later he was selected him as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He ascended from chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the elder Bush's administration to secretary of state under his son. That man is Colin Powell

For a time, that looked quite possible that he would run for president and win. Through 1995 there was hope that Powell would run for president. He led in polls of Republican primary voters. The same surveys suggested he was capable of beating President Bill Clinton. Powell could have been elected in 1996. The first black president of the United States being a Republican would have been a significant development, one that might have mitigated, if not averted, the ugly racialization of our politics. Powell would have been a moderate not too strongly associated with the left or the right, likely allowing him to assemble an electoral coalition unlike anything we can imagine today. As a Republican and the first black president, and the winner of the Gulf War, the newly minted Republican congress would have given him anything he wanted. The internet boom would have happened anyway; perhaps Powell's policies would have been even more pro-growth than second-term Clinton's.

Sadly, Powell did not run. Instead, the GOP had the sad farewell tour masquerading as a presidential campaign embarked upon by the otherwise heroic Bob Dole. A good man, but he had no chance of beating Bill Clinton, and Clinton won his second term.

A President Powell might have returned us to the era of good feelings under Reagan. A booming economy, a popular president backed by independents, no Whitewater investigations, no Monica Lewinsky, no impeachment. And maybe only one President Bush?

If 9/11 had happened under a President Powell's, the US might have been less likely to respond by waging a second war in Iraq. Our response to 9/11 may well have been limited to hitting Afghanistan, keeping the international coalition against terrorism intact under a president who had been part of winning a war.

If you look at the past 20-plus years of American politics — the Clinton embarrassments (and later the Hillary embarrassments), the Bush-Cheney wars, the horrible reign of Barack Obama — wouldn't you have wanted to avoid a lot of it? Hindsight is 20-20, but Powell looks like he might have been our best bet for doing so.

Author: Me.

You know why he didn't run, right?

 

[bodecea]

2020 hindsight is always full of great hope and "what if's". If John Kennedy, didnt get US involved in the French Debacle of the Vietnam War,10s of thousands of US young men wouldn't of been killed, his lowering of taxes would of been an economic powerhouse but again it didnt happen. Who knows what the world would of looked like, but we are here, now, and thank God and the US citizens that gave US, President Trump.

I guess the thing that makes this somewhat unique is that the nomination and the presidency was being handed to Powell on a silver platter and he said no. He could have been the first black president and molded history and he said no.

JFK? Well, the forces the be made his Viet Nam decisions almost inevitable in the context of the times.

Colin Powell and what may have happened is a subject that nobody ever seems to talk about. I thought it was worth a thread.

What makes you think that the nomination and the Presidency would have been handed to Powell on a silver platter?

 

[bodecea]

I disagree, but strongly believe we have seen the last black Progressive Democrat to be elected president at least through my child's lifetime.

I don't know about all that. Boomers are losing about 4000 people a day now.

those democrat freshmen congressmen are doing a stand-up job for Republicans wouldn't you agree?

They are the equivalent of the Tea Tards

Only difference is Democrats do not take them seriously

President bill clinton? why was he beating the war drum?
why were democrats doing it?

Didn’t see Clinton start a war

Actually, Clinton dealt with what was going on in the former Yugoslavia....with not one American getting killed.

 

[bodecea]

Sorry, but Powell supported Barack Hussein because you know, skin color.

Powell in later years has certainly been a disappointment.
But if the first black president had been a Republican, and the Clinton years wiped out and there was never an Obama, what would things look like today? This is what I wonder about.

Republicans do not vote for black people

They just don’t

Powell's wife talked him out of running. She didn't want to be a widow.

 

[bodecea]

One man could have changed the course of history, and he had the opportunity to do so handed to him on a silver platter, free for the taking. Who is that man; Can you guess?

He was a professional soldier for 35 years, holding a variety of command and staff positions and rising to the rank of General. He was Ronald Reagan's National Security Advisor, serving from 1987 to 1989 while retaining his Army commission as a lieutenant general. In April 1989, after his tenure with the National Security Council, Powell was promoted to four-star general under President George H. W. Bush and briefly served as the Commander in Chief, Forces Command (FORSCOM), overseeing all Army, Army Reserve, and National Guard units in the Continental U.S., Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico. He became the third general since World War II to reach four-star rank without ever serving as a division commander, joining Dwight D. Eisenhower and Alexander Haig. Later he was selected him as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He ascended from chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the elder Bush's administration to secretary of state under his son. That man is Colin Powell

For a time, that looked quite possible that he would run for president and win. Through 1995 there was hope that Powell would run for president. He led in polls of Republican primary voters. The same surveys suggested he was capable of beating President Bill Clinton. Powell could have been elected in 1996. The first black president of the United States being a Republican would have been a significant development, one that might have mitigated, if not averted, the ugly racialization of our politics. Powell would have been a moderate not too strongly associated with the left or the right, likely allowing him to assemble an electoral coalition unlike anything we can imagine today. As a Republican and the first black president, and the winner of the Gulf War, the newly minted Republican congress would have given him anything he wanted. The internet boom would have happened anyway; perhaps Powell's policies would have been even more pro-growth than second-term Clinton's.

Sadly, Powell did not run. Instead, the GOP had the sad farewell tour masquerading as a presidential campaign embarked upon by the otherwise heroic Bob Dole. A good man, but he had no chance of beating Bill Clinton, and Clinton won his second term.

A President Powell might have returned us to the era of good feelings under Reagan. A booming economy, a popular president backed by independents, no Whitewater investigations, no Monica Lewinsky, no impeachment. And maybe only one President Bush?

If 9/11 had happened under a President Powell's, the US might have been less likely to respond by waging a second war in Iraq. Our response to 9/11 may well have been limited to hitting Afghanistan, keeping the international coalition against terrorism intact under a president who had been part of winning a war.

If you look at the past 20-plus years of American politics — the Clinton embarrassments (and later the Hillary embarrassments), the Bush-Cheney wars, the horrible reign of Barack Obama — wouldn't you have wanted to avoid a lot of it? Hindsight is 20-20, but Powell looks like he might have been our best bet for doing so.

Author: Me.

First time I absolutely disagree. That black rhino is a joke!

This is the CRC attitude then and now about General Powell.

 

[bodecea]

One man could have changed the course of history, and he had the opportunity to do so handed to him on a silver platter, free for the taking. Who is that man; Can you guess?

He was a professional soldier for 35 years, holding a variety of command and staff positions and rising to the rank of General. He was Ronald Reagan's National Security Advisor, serving from 1987 to 1989 while retaining his Army commission as a lieutenant general. In April 1989, after his tenure with the National Security Council, Powell was promoted to four-star general under President George H. W. Bush and briefly served as the Commander in Chief, Forces Command (FORSCOM), overseeing all Army, Army Reserve, and National Guard units in the Continental U.S., Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico. He became the third general since World War II to reach four-star rank without ever serving as a division commander, joining Dwight D. Eisenhower and Alexander Haig. Later he was selected him as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He ascended from chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the elder Bush's administration to secretary of state under his son. That man is Colin Powell

For a time, that looked quite possible that he would run for president and win. Through 1995 there was hope that Powell would run for president. He led in polls of Republican primary voters. The same surveys suggested he was capable of beating President Bill Clinton. Powell could have been elected in 1996. The first black president of the United States being a Republican would have been a significant development, one that might have mitigated, if not averted, the ugly racialization of our politics. Powell would have been a moderate not too strongly associated with the left or the right, likely allowing him to assemble an electoral coalition unlike anything we can imagine today. As a Republican and the first black president, and the winner of the Gulf War, the newly minted Republican congress would have given him anything he wanted. The internet boom would have happened anyway; perhaps Powell's policies would have been even more pro-growth than second-term Clinton's.

Sadly, Powell did not run. Instead, the GOP had the sad farewell tour masquerading as a presidential campaign embarked upon by the otherwise heroic Bob Dole. A good man, but he had no chance of beating Bill Clinton, and Clinton won his second term.

A President Powell might have returned us to the era of good feelings under Reagan. A booming economy, a popular president backed by independents, no Whitewater investigations, no Monica Lewinsky, no impeachment. And maybe only one President Bush?

If 9/11 had happened under a President Powell's, the US might have been less likely to respond by waging a second war in Iraq. Our response to 9/11 may well have been limited to hitting Afghanistan, keeping the international coalition against terrorism intact under a president who had been part of winning a war.

If you look at the past 20-plus years of American politics — the Clinton embarrassments (and later the Hillary embarrassments), the Bush-Cheney wars, the horrible reign of Barack Obama — wouldn't you have wanted to avoid a lot of it? Hindsight is 20-20, but Powell looks like he might have been our best bet for doing so.

Author: Me.

I would have voted for him. He seemed like a truly decent man, which is probably why he refused to run.

I would have voted for him

If I was not against him before......now I am 100% against. I hope he is eliminated with all the other vermin. Nothing is too horrible for "the enemy within".

We are right, you are wrong. End of story. Pound sand fruitcakes.

So...all you do is hope? No action on your part? Too hard to get off the couch?

 

[whitehall]

"Change history" is a freaking cliche that people use when they are unable to articulate a political point. A freaking butterfly could change history but history can't be changed. Powell never chose to voice his ideas and agenda as a political candidate so it's a moot point and an uninteresting one at that.

 

[theHawk]

Sorry, but Powell supported Barack Hussein because you know, skin color.

Powell in later years has certainly been a disappointment.
But if the first black president had been a Republican, and the Clinton years wiped out and there was never an Obama, what would things look like today? This is what I wonder about.

Republicans do not vote for black people

They just don’t

Powell's wife talked him out of running. She didn't want to be a widow.

Yea, the left would had really freaked out if he ran as a Republican.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I don't know about all that. Boomers are losing about 4000 people a day now.

those democrat freshmen congressmen are doing a stand-up job for Republicans wouldn't you agree?

They are the equivalent of the Tea Tards

Only difference is Democrats do not take them seriously

President bill clinton? why was he beating the war drum?
why were democrats doing it?

Didn’t see Clinton start a war

Actually, Clinton dealt with what was going on in the former Yugoslavia....with not one American getting killed.

Mogadishu outrage puts Clinton in firing line
Mogadishu outrage puts Clinton in firing line
Pressure grows for US withdrawal as Somalis flaunt corpses and captives

 

[bigrebnc1775]

There is no way a black man of any description or background will ever win the republican nomination.

I disagree, but strongly believe we have seen the last black Progressive Democrat to be elected president at least through my child's lifetime.

I don't know about all that. Boomers are losing about 4000 people a day now.

those democrat freshmen congressmen are doing a stand-up job for Republicans wouldn't you agree?

Right! I seem to recall Shrillary, John F-ing Kerry, and AlGore all voting for the war in Iraq.

yep they sure did.

 

[Cellblock2429]

One man could have changed the course of history, and he had the opportunity to do so handed to him on a silver platter, free for the taking. Who is that man; Can you guess?

He was a professional soldier for 35 years, holding a variety of command and staff positions and rising to the rank of General. He was Ronald Reagan's National Security Advisor, serving from 1987 to 1989 while retaining his Army commission as a lieutenant general. In April 1989, after his tenure with the National Security Council, Powell was promoted to four-star general under President George H. W. Bush and briefly served as the Commander in Chief, Forces Command (FORSCOM), overseeing all Army, Army Reserve, and National Guard units in the Continental U.S., Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico. He became the third general since World War II to reach four-star rank without ever serving as a division commander, joining Dwight D. Eisenhower and Alexander Haig. Later he was selected him as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He ascended from chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the elder Bush's administration to secretary of state under his son. That man is Colin Powell

For a time, that looked quite possible that he would run for president and win. Through 1995 there was hope that Powell would run for president. He led in polls of Republican primary voters. The same surveys suggested he was capable of beating President Bill Clinton. Powell could have been elected in 1996. The first black president of the United States being a Republican would have been a significant development, one that might have mitigated, if not averted, the ugly racialization of our politics. Powell would have been a moderate not too strongly associated with the left or the right, likely allowing him to assemble an electoral coalition unlike anything we can imagine today. As a Republican and the first black president, and the winner of the Gulf War, the newly minted Republican congress would have given him anything he wanted. The internet boom would have happened anyway; perhaps Powell's policies would have been even more pro-growth than second-term Clinton's.

Sadly, Powell did not run. Instead, the GOP had the sad farewell tour masquerading as a presidential campaign embarked upon by the otherwise heroic Bob Dole. A good man, but he had no chance of beating Bill Clinton, and Clinton won his second term.

A President Powell might have returned us to the era of good feelings under Reagan. A booming economy, a popular president backed by independents, no Whitewater investigations, no Monica Lewinsky, no impeachment. And maybe only one President Bush?

If 9/11 had happened under a President Powell's, the US might have been less likely to respond by waging a second war in Iraq. Our response to 9/11 may well have been limited to hitting Afghanistan, keeping the international coalition against terrorism intact under a president who had been part of winning a war.

If you look at the past 20-plus years of American politics — the Clinton embarrassments (and later the Hillary embarrassments), the Bush-Cheney wars, the horrible reign of Barack Obama — wouldn't you have wanted to avoid a lot of it? Hindsight is 20-20, but Powell looks like he might have been our best bet for doing so.

Author: Me.

/——/ I don’t think Powell wanted to undergo the public scrutiny of political office. I remember the talk of him running and agree he was a shoe in. We’ll never know why he didn’t run.

 

[Jantje_Smit]

...If 9/11 had happened under a President Powell's, the US might have been less likely to respond by waging a second war in Iraq...

I think you missed some highlights of Powell's career

Author: Me.

Sad!

 

[MAGAman]

If 9/11 had happened under a President Powell's, the US might have been less likely to respond by waging a second war in Iraq. Our response to 9/11 may well have been limited to hitting Afghanistan, keeping the international coalition against terrorism intact under a president who had been part of winning a war



9/11 happened under Bush. It was Colin Powell who spun the yellowcake myth in front of the UN advocating an invasion of Iraq

It ruined Powell’s credibility

He made a fortune on the leftist speaking tours charging $50,000 / Democrat crowd.

 

[playtime]

of course there are. except for stephen miller, they may not be in the administration anymore , but they are still there & whispering in donny's cheeto dusted ear.

steve bannon & gorka come to mind right quick. & when you hafta resort to name calling right outa the gate to defend yerself, that shows quite the mental defect on yer part.

Trump hates Bannon.

Show proof that Gorka is an alt right racist as you claim.

you think because steve bannon is 'hated' by trump, that donny doesn't approve of what he's doing since he left the administration ( not because of trump, but of bad PR)?
silly you.

as for gorka...

Sebastian Gorka, Trump’s most controversial national security aide, is out

A Nazi-linked group was "proud" after Trump aide wore its medal

why would he sport a pin from vitezi rend? 'cause it looked good?

At best it is circumstantial. In a court of law no chance you prove he is a white supremacist as you allege. Trumps daughter and three grandchildren are Jewish as am I. Hence I abhor white supremacists as does he. Vox is a biased Leftist publication.

this isn't a court of law & donny loves his 'baby' more than he hates jews. stephen miller is a self hating jew, so donny will keep him around, & i bet you think when he retweeted that meme of hillary & the star of david over cash, he didn't think it wasn't antisemetic? i personally love how he doesn't know who david duke is.....................

he & the company he keeps in his orbit are less than kosher in the torch bearing sense.

Look, you’re a deranged hater. When you’re ready to have a logical conversation (take your meds) ping me.

lol... sure. there's not one thing i said that you can refute.

trump is the hater.
his basket dwellers are the haters.
THEY are white supreeeeemisists, that you seem to defend, for what reason, who knows? the GOP - including gorka, miller, & bannon - is chock full of them; it's obvious or they would be speaking out against the inhumane way those brown people are being held in those (call them whatever makes YOU more comfortable) .... camps, cages, detention centers....

oh one more thing:

^ nothing racist or pandering to deplorable torch bearers there, 'eh?

 

[playtime]

He supported the ISIS overthrowing the governments of those countries.

You forget how he let Benghazi happen and the famous “red line”?

Actually, he didn’t

What else ya got?

Flag on the play unnecessary lying and roughing the facts

Libya and Syria were civil wars not started by Obama

You Fail

really? civil wars not started by obama? why did obama get the American military involvement in the first place?

The question is......why did Conservatives support Qaddafi?

ahhhh.... memories....

 

[playtime]

That man is Colin Powell

Colin Powell voted for and supported Obama, enough said.

He also voted for Bush

Doubt if he was dumb enough to vote for Trump

At least make an attempt to post something intelligent okay.

seems pretty unlikely he did:

colin powell trump - Google Search

 

[playtime]

That man is Colin Powell

Colin Powell voted for and supported Obama, enough said.

He also voted for Bush

Doubt if he was dumb enough to vote for Trump

At least make an attempt to post something intelligent okay.

I’m smart.....i have a yuge IQ

I have a big brain

you stable genius you..............

 

[playtime]

That man is Colin Powell

Colin Powell voted for and supported Obama, enough said.

He also voted for Bush

Doubt if he was dumb enough to vote for Trump

At least make an attempt to post something intelligent okay.

I’m smart.....i have a yuge IQ

I have a big brain

no you aren't smart

ya he is. AND he hires the best people too!

 

[playtime]

this isn't a court of law & donny loves his 'baby' more than he hates jews. ..............

Take your sick filthy shit somewhere else you lowlife piece of garbage.

& there it is! i was wonderin' how long b4 you started with me - i was beginning to think you had me on ignore & i was feeling left out!!!!