there4eyeM
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Islam is what it is...........
It does not need defended nor excuses made for it.
...which is why this poster is always defending it.
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Islam is what it is...........
It does not need defended nor excuses made for it.
Be careful judging Muslims. The only time the Bible tells us to judge, is to judge righteous judgment.
That would be discerning whether religious dogma aligns with the Word of God. If it doesn't, flee from it or you will become confused. The Word of God is Jesus, the Christ.
The Arab nation is a nation blessed by the God of Abraham. They also are Abraham's children, and God promised Abraham he would heal Abraham's family.
Christ's return will culminate in removing the hatred between Issac and Ishmael, and replacing it with a bond of love for each other that will never be broken. The issue of land will be resolved by Christ, each receiving their share, and they will be satisfied with it.
Please cite the verses that say thisOn the contrary, they will be destroyed along with the rest of the nations because the Arab(sons of Ishamael) also took part in the enslavement and captivity of the Israelites
(sons of Jacob > Issac).
Be careful judging Muslims. The only time the Bible tells us to judge, is to judge righteous judgment.
That would be discerning whether religious dogma aligns with the Word of God. If it doesn't, flee from it or you will become confused. The Word of God is Jesus, the Christ.
The Arab nation is a nation blessed by the God of Abraham. They also are Abraham's children, and God promised Abraham he would heal Abraham's family.
Christ's return will culminate in removing the hatred between Issac and Ishmael, and replacing it with a bond of love for each other that will never be broken. The issue of land will be resolved by Christ, each receiving their share, and they will be satisfied with it.
This is not true. Although Issac and Ishamel were brothers, nowhere in the Bible does it say that Jesus will reconcile them as nations. On the contrary, they will be destroyed along with the rest of the nations because the Arab(sons of Ishamael) also took part in the enslavement and captivity of the Israelites
(sons of Jacob > Issac)
Please cite the verses that say so.
The everlasting covenant given to Abraham also includes Ishmael and his descendants...........Be careful judging Muslims. The only time the Bible tells us to judge, is to judge righteous judgment.
That would be discerning whether religious dogma aligns with the Word of God. If it doesn't, flee from it or you will become confused. The Word of God is Jesus, the Christ.
The Arab nation is a nation blessed by the God of Abraham. They also are Abraham's children, and God promised Abraham he would heal Abraham's family.
Christ's return will culminate in removing the hatred between Issac and Ishmael, and replacing it with a bond of love for each other that will never be broken. The issue of land will be resolved by Christ, each receiving their share, and they will be satisfied with it.
This is not true. Although Issac and Ishamel were brothers, nowhere in the Bible does it say that Jesus will reconcile them as nations. On the contrary, they will be destroyed along with the rest of the nations because the Arab(sons of Ishamael) also took part in the enslavement and captivity of the Israelites
(sons of Jacob > Issac)
Please cite the verses that say so.
Gen 17:7 " I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants........"
That covenant is Jesus, and it includes Abraham's descendants. Abraham's descendants are 2 children that Abraham adored, and the offspring of those two children.
Be careful judging Muslims. The only time the Bible tells us to judge, is to judge righteous judgment.
That would be discerning whether religious dogma aligns with the Word of God. If it doesn't, flee from it or you will become confused. The Word of God is Jesus, the Christ.
The Arab nation is a nation blessed by the God of Abraham. They also are Abraham's children, and God promised Abraham he would heal Abraham's family.
Christ's return will culminate in removing the hatred between Issac and Ishmael, and replacing it with a bond of love for each other that will never be broken. The issue of land will be resolved by Christ, each receiving their share, and they will be satisfied with it.
This is not true. Although Issac and Ishamel were brothers, nowhere in the Bible does it say that Jesus will reconcile them as nations. On the contrary, they will be destroyed along with the rest of the nations because the Arab(sons of Ishamael) also took part in the enslavement and captivity of the Israelites
(sons of Jacob > Issac)
Please cite the verses that say so.
Gen 17:7 " I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants........"
That covenant is Jesus, and it includes Abraham's descendants. Abraham's descendants are 2 children that Abraham adored, and the offspring of those two children.
Isaiah 19:22-25
And the Lord will strike Egypt, He will strike and heal it; they will return to the Lord, and He will be entreated by them and heal them. In that day there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria, and the Assyrian will come into Egypt and the Egyptian into Assyria, and the Egyptians will serve with the Assyrians. In that day Israel will be one of three with Egypt and Assyria-a blessing in the midst of the land, whom the Lord of hosts shall bless, saying, "Blessed is Egypt My people, and Assyria the work of My hands, and Israel My inheritance."
Jesus has yet to make the above statement. He will though, when He comes back to collect His inheritance. The Muslim Brotherhood/Egypt will entreat Christ, and be glad to be healed by Him.
Jeremiah 3:17
"They shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the LORD, to the city of peace."
Psalm 72:17,
"All nations shall call him blessed"
After Christ's arrival as the Lion of Judah, He will settle into His role as the Prince of Peace, in Jer-u-salem, < city of peace. That will be achieved by removing the hatred between the brothers, and the rest of us will call Him blessed because of it.
^^^^^^ That has zero to do with Abraham's Covenant with God concerning his descendants Isaac and Ishmael.
Besides, Jesus was sent to bring back the lost sheep of Israel because they had strayed so far from God's will.
Not because they were doing so good...........
Maybe you should quit posting and start reading your Bible.GOD's covenant was made with the House of Israel ONLY. .....FACT
Maybe you should quit posting and start reading your Bible.GOD's covenant was made with the House of Israel ONLY. .....FACT
God says to Abraham;
Genesis 17:7 I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you throughout their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and to your descendants after you.
(this is referring to both Isaac and Ishmael)
This Bible verse is talking about Prophet Muhammad.
Deuteronomy 18:18 "I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him."
^^^^^^^^ Read what it says; "among "fellow" Israelites", (ie brethern, cousins).
Not from the Israelites themselves.
This is not true. Although Issac and Ishamel were brothers, nowhere in the Bible does it say that Jesus will reconcile them as nations. On the contrary, they will be destroyed along with the rest of the nations because the Arab(sons of Ishamael) also took part in the enslavement and captivity of the Israelites
(sons of Jacob > Issac)
Please cite the verses that say so.
Gen 17:7 " I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants........"
That covenant is Jesus, and it includes Abraham's descendants. Abraham's descendants are 2 children that Abraham adored, and the offspring of those two children.
Isaiah 19:22-25
And the Lord will strike Egypt, He will strike and heal it; they will return to the Lord, and He will be entreated by them and heal them. In that day there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria, and the Assyrian will come into Egypt and the Egyptian into Assyria, and the Egyptians will serve with the Assyrians. In that day Israel will be one of three with Egypt and Assyria-a blessing in the midst of the land, whom the Lord of hosts shall bless, saying, "Blessed is Egypt My people, and Assyria the work of My hands, and Israel My inheritance."
Jesus has yet to make the above statement. He will though, when He comes back to collect His inheritance. The Muslim Brotherhood/Egypt will entreat Christ, and be glad to be healed by Him.
Jeremiah 3:17
"They shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the LORD, to the city of peace."
Psalm 72:17,
"All nations shall call him blessed"
After Christ's arrival as the Lion of Judah, He will settle into His role as the Prince of Peace, in Jer-u-salem, < city of peace. That will be achieved by removing the hatred between the brothers, and the rest of us will call Him blessed because of it.
Matthew 15:24
I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Jesus words^^^
He didn't say he was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Ishmael, nor the descendants of Abraham. but ONLY to the house of Israel (Jacob's seed. the 12 Tribes)
Matthew 15:17Be it so, Sir, she said, "for even the dogs eat the scraps which fall from their masters' tables."
Don't get too excited. The operative part of the phrase is the covenant is JesusThat covenant is Jesus, and it includes Abraham's descendants. Abraham's descendants are 2 children that Abraham adored, and the offspring of those two children.
This Bible verse is talking about Prophet Muhammad.
Deuteronomy 18:18 "I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him."
This Bible verse is talking about Prophet Muhammad.
Deuteronomy 18:18 "I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him."