The Lies of the Left

The Congress dumped the decision onto Bush. If Bush had decided not to invade Iraq we would not have invaded, if Bush did decide to invade we would invade. It was Bush's decision, and Congress let Bush decide, it was Bush's baby. Why did only some members of Congress have the same information as the president, did that mean the Congress and the president did not have the same information on Iraq? So, Congress passed a war resolution and some did not have all the information.


the leadership in the House and Senate....the heads of the relevant committees.....all had the same info.........

On Sept. 18, 2002, CIA director George Tenet briefed President Bush in the Oval Office on top-secret intelligence that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, according to two former senior CIA officers. Bush dismissed as worthless this information from the Iraqi foreign minister, a member of Saddam’s inner circle, although it turned out to be accurate in every detail. Tenet never brought it up again.

Nor was the intelligence included in the National Intelligence Estimate of October 2002, which stated categorically that Iraq possessed WMD. No one in Congress was aware of the secret intelligence that Saddam had no WMD as the House of Representatives and the Senate voted, a week after the submission of the NIE, on the Authorization for Use of Military Force in Iraq. The information, moreover, was not circulated within the CIAamong those agents involved in operations to prove whether Saddam had WMD.

Bush knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction - Salon.com
Yeah salon.com is a fail. It leaves out all the intelligence we had that did suggest Saddam had WMD. In the wake of 9/11 a president with intelligence that a hostile nation had WMD who did nothing would be criminally negligent.

I guess he could have cited Rolling Stones. They're probably still a credible source on the Left.
Only for music....I prefer High Times...
Glen Miller, Artie Shaw, and Duke Ellington for me. I'm a bit of a Swing freak.
 
Saddam admitted there was no WMD, that he was bluffing...

The far left are a WMD, will they finally turn themselves in?

Like I said, weapons grade stupid.
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Do you all feel better about yourselves now? Do you feel smart and clever.

There is no way you lot can ever admit that Bush was an abject failure as a President. Bush, Cheney and company should have be tried for war crimes. And you voted for them, twice.

Your right wing economics don't work. Your foreign policies are to go to war. And you lie incessantly to justify it all.

But enjoy you little circle jerks blaming liberals. It's all you have left.
 
The Dem's are fighting the school vouchers because they don't want the poor to have a better education.
They lie about this all the time too.
The Dem's just want to keep adding money, doesn't want competition and don't do a thing to change the way the school system is run.


School vouchers also cut in Dems' ability to through money at their political, bureaucratic, and union cronies. A bloated education budget keeps that in tact. If failing schools are shut down because kids in that district are using vouchers, that's less money in the pot.
 
Do you all feel better about yourselves now? Do you feel smart and clever.

There is no way you lot can ever admit that Bush was an abject failure as a President. Bush, Cheney and company should have be tried for war crimes. And you voted for them, twice.

Your right wing economics don't work. Your foreign policies are to go to war. And you lie incessantly to justify it all.

But enjoy you little circle jerks blaming liberals. It's all you have left.


You are believing the lies that the left is telling you about them.
I am also one of many who was pissed at Bush for bailing out the banks and making the government bigger.
We can see the real wrongs that our party does.
You on the left see no wrong doing at all in your party.
 
Do you all feel better about yourselves now? Do you feel smart and clever.

There is no way you lot can ever admit that Bush was an abject failure as a President. Bush, Cheney and company should have be tried for war crimes. And you voted for them, twice.

Your right wing economics don't work. Your foreign policies are to go to war. And you lie incessantly to justify it all.

But enjoy you little circle jerks blaming liberals. It's all you have left.
I prefer to watch really hot chics just get used on the Internet and practice a Circle of One, not only for practice, but also to get to know modern chics and their modern trics, better in modern times. I love modern Information Age times.
 
Do you all feel better about yourselves now? Do you feel smart and clever.

There is no way you lot can ever admit that Bush was an abject failure as a President. Bush, Cheney and company should have be tried for war crimes. And you voted for them, twice.

Your right wing economics don't work. Your foreign policies are to go to war. And you lie incessantly to justify it all.

But enjoy you little circle jerks blaming liberals. It's all you have left.
LOL!
Obama and the Democrats have produced the longest period of low growth in post war history, all the while spending trillions of dollars.
Obama's foreign policy has given us:
-A failed surge in Afghanistan that cost more lives than Bush's war there.
-A resurgent Russia that is taking over Ukraine, the first conquest since WW2 on European soil
-A nuclear Iran
-Bashar Assad still in power in Syria despite US policy that he must be removed
-Chaos in Libya
-Chaos in Yemen
-A failed "pivot to the East"
-A foreign policy principle that says "Dont do stupid shit." I didnt make that up either.

Bush was George Washington compared to Obama.
 
The Middle East was relatively stable until Bush went in and destabilized the region by taking out Sadam. The whole region was a quagmire for 2000 years and it still is but that's Obama's fault. If you spent more time reading history instead of jerking off on internet porn, you might have a clue.
 
They could be re-purposed. But how did a few lost, decaying caches of these chemical warheads, in a country that had been bombed back to the stone age, pose a threat to any one but the unlucky bastard who might happen to find them?


Muslim Terrorists would have loved to get their hands on them and the poor people in Iraq would have loved to have sold it to them for money.
Nothing like mustard gas in the subways of Europe and New York City eh? :)

Saddam was a hard line dictator. He didn't allow Islamic Terrorist Groups to operate inside his country. Furthermore he never allowed the groups he funded in Palestine or Iran to have access to such weapons.

So in reality that threat came because of the invasion, or rather the failed occupation.
I am just at my wits end with the stupidiyt that oozes off this board every day. Stupidity and ignorance.
Saddam s Terror Training Camps The Weekly Standard
THE FORMER IRAQI REGIME OF Saddam Hussein trained thousands of radical Islamic terrorists from the region at camps in Iraq over the four years immediately preceding the U.S. invasion, according to documents and photographs recovered by the U.S. military in postwar Iraq. The existence and character of these documents has been confirmed to THE WEEKLY STANDARD by eleven U.S. government officials

Short trip?

Still singing the same tune as they were in 2001,

"First, like Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein hates the United States with a vengeance he expresses at every opportunity."

"Second, Saddam Hussein has an array of chemical and biological weapons and has been willing to absorb the pain of a decade-long embargo rather than allow international inspectors to uncover the full magnitude of his program."

"Third, we know that Saddam Hussein has engaged directly in acts of terror and given sanctuary and other support to terrorists. In 1993 he planned the assassination of George H. W. Bush during the former president's visit to Kuwait. He operates a terrorist training facility at Salman Pak complete with a passenger aircraft cabin for training in hijacking."

The U.S. Must Strike at Saddam Hussein - NYTimes.com
Your admission of error is commendable.

The NYT's got it wrong then, as with everything they parroted from the White House at the time.

The urban legend of the Salman Pak “terrorist training facilities” has been circulating in the fetid swamps of the militarist right for years and was thoroughly incredible even before the invasion revealed any such facilities to have been training grounds for Hussein’s fedayeen. For whatever it’s worth, in the May 12, 2003 New Yorker Seymour Hersh has reported the rather more reasonable claim that the Salman Pak camp, at least, was designed for counter-terrorism. Thus Hersh:

In separate interviews with me, however, a former C.I.A. station chief and a former military intelligence analyst said that the camp near Salman Pak had been built not for terrorism training but for counter-terrorism training. In the mid-eighties, Islamic terrorists were routinely hijacking aircraft. In 1986, an Iraqi airliner was seized by pro-Iranian extremists and crashed, after a hand grenade was triggered, killing at least sixty-five people. (At the time, Iran and Iraq were at war, and America favored Iraq.) Iraq then sought assistance from the West, and got what it wanted from Britain’s MI6. The C.I.A. offered similar training in counter-terrorism throughout the Middle East. “We were helping our allies everywhere we had a liaison,” the former station chief told me. Inspectors recalled seeing the body of an airplane—which appeared to be used for counter-terrorism training—when they visited a biological-weapons facility near Salman Pak in 1991, ten years before September 11th. It is, of course, possible for such a camp to be converted from one purpose to another. The former C.I.A. official noted, however, that terrorists would not practice on airplanes in the open. “That’s Hollywood rinky-dink stuff,” the former agent said. “They train in basements. You don’t need a real airplane to practice hijacking. The 9/11 terrorists went to gyms. But to take one back you have to practice on the real thing.”

Beating the Dead Horse of Salman Pak The American Conservative
 

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