The Left versus The West

[PoliticalChic]

Love this guy, Dennis Prager.
His latest exegesis explains the greatest threat to Western Civilization, the new religion, Leftism.



He begins by explaining why Leftist belief has been so very attractive to many folks.

1.“Marx saw man’s primary drive as economic, and Freud saw it as sex. But Viktor Frankl, in “Man’s Search for Meaning,” believed — correctly, in my opinion — that the greatest drive of man is meaning.
One can be poor and chaste and still be happy. But one cannot be bereft of meaning and be happy.


2. In the West, Christianity (and on a smaller scale, Judaism) provided nearly all people with the Bible, a divine or divinely inspired text to guide their lives; a religious community; answers to life’s fundamental questions; and, above all, meaning: A good God governs the universe; death does not end everything; and human beings were purposefully created.

The greatest provider of meaning for the vast majority of human beings has been religion.





3. All this has disappeared for most Westerners. The Bible is regarded as myth, silly at best, malicious at worst — there is no God, certainly not the morality-giving and judging God of the Bible; there is no afterlife; human beings are a purposeless coincidence with no more intrinsic purpose than anything else in the universe. In short: This Is All There Is.” Explaining the Left, Part III: Leftism as Secular Religion - The Dennis Prager Show





4. Sooo….where do so very many find meaning now that religion doesn’t provide same?

5. The abandonment of religion was the ‘gift’ of The Enlightenment, and of the French Revolution.

The Enlightenment gave the view that through science and reason, man could make himself replace God.
People seem to have missed the greatest difference, and the great loss: science can tell us what we can do, but not what we should do.

And, people seem not to have noticed that the reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.”
http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html

Three days after the completion of The Declaration of the Rights of Man and the Citizen, the mob stormed the Bastille, and marched around with the head of the prison’s commander, Marquis de Launay, on a pike. Shortly, the greatest nation in continental Europe became a human abattoir.




France’s revolution-by-mob has become an inspiration to be imitated in Germany, Russia, China, Vietnam, Cuba, Cambodia, North Korea, Venezuela, in short, for liberals everywhere.
The characteristics of the French Revolution that most clearly identify it as Liberal are that it was spontaneous, impulsive, passionate, emotional, romantic, utopian, resentful, angry, dreamy- anything and everything except disciplined and reasoned and stable.
See Coulter, “Demonic”


And Western Civilization was changed forever.

 

[JoeB131]

2. In the West, Christianity (and on a smaller scale, Judaism) provided nearly all people with the Bible, a divine or divinely inspired text to guide their lives; a religious community; answers to life’s fundamental questions; and, above all, meaning:

not to mention witch burning, torturing heretics, molesting altar boys, collaborating with Fascism... Good times.

 

[JoeB131]

5. The abandonment of religion was the ‘gift’ of The Enlightenment, and of the French Revolution.

The Enlightenment gave the view that through science and reason, man could make himself replace God.
People seem to have missed the greatest difference, and the great loss: science can tell us what we can do, but not what we should do.

Honestly, sweetie, if the only thing that keeps you from going on a murderous rampage is your fear of an invisible sky pixie, we should all worry.

 

[JoeB131]

France’s revolution-by-mob has become an inspiration to be imitated in Germany, Russia, China, Vietnam, Cuba, Cambodia, North Korea, Venezuela, in short, for liberals everywhere.

Why do you always leave out the events where Capitalist governments have done awful things.

The Transatlantic slave trade
The exploitation of the Congo
The genocide of Native Americans and Aboriginal Australians.

I recently found out about a new one I hadn't heard about before, the Bengal Famine of 1943.

The Bengal Famine: How the British engineered the worst genocide in human history for profit

Winston Churchill, the hallowed British War prime minister who saved Europe from a monster like Hitler was disturbingly callous about the roaring famine that was swallowing Bengal’s population. He casually diverted the supplies of medical aid and food that was being dispatched to the starving victims to the already well supplied soldiers of Europe. When entreated upon, he said, “Famine or no famine, Indians will breed like rabbits.” The Delhi Government sent a telegram to him painting a picture of the horrible devastation and the number of people who had died. His only response was, “Then why hasn’t Gandhi died yet?"

Now, I worked with an older Indian gentleman a few years back, and he referred to Churchill as a bastard. Now I see why.

Since I know you won't address these points directly, please proceed to cut and paste your numbered crazy.

 

[PoliticalChic]

6. Sooo….where do so very many find meaning now that religion doesn’t provide same?

[Not in] “marriage and family — increasingly, secular individuals in the West eschew marriage, and even more do not have children. It turns out, to the surprise of many, that marriage and children are religious values, not human instincts.



In the West today, love and marriage (and children) go together like a horse and a carriage for faithful Catholics, Orthodox Jews, religious Mormons and evangelical Protestants — not for the secular.

I know many religious families with more than four children; I do not know one secular family with more than four children (and the odds are you don’t either).



The answer to the great dearth of meaning left by the death of biblical religion in the West is secular religion.
The first two great secular substitutes were communism and Nazism. The first provided hundreds of millions of people with meaning; the latter provided most Germans and Austrians with meaning.” Prager, Op.Cit.



"The first two great secular substitutes were communism and Nazism."

Well......

Prager glosses over the fact that Hitler and the Nazis proudly admitted that the model for their programs was the Progressive movement in the United States.....and the Democrat Party.


But....Communism, Nazism, Progressivism, and the Democrat Party could all be considered under the rubric of 'Leftism.'

 

[skews13]

France’s revolution-by-mob has become an inspiration to be imitated in Germany, Russia, China, Vietnam, Cuba, Cambodia, North Korea, Venezuela, in short, for liberals everywhere.

Why do you always leave out the events where Capitalist governments have done awful things.

The Transatlantic slave trade
The exploitation of the Congo
The genocide of Native Americans and Aboriginal Australians.

I recently found out about a new one I hadn't heard about before, the Bengal Famine of 1943.

The Bengal Famine: How the British engineered the worst genocide in human history for profit

Winston Churchill, the hallowed British War prime minister who saved Europe from a monster like Hitler was disturbingly callous about the roaring famine that was swallowing Bengal’s population. He casually diverted the supplies of medical aid and food that was being dispatched to the starving victims to the already well supplied soldiers of Europe. When entreated upon, he said, “Famine or no famine, Indians will breed like rabbits.” The Delhi Government sent a telegram to him painting a picture of the horrible devastation and the number of people who had died. His only response was, “Then why hasn’t Gandhi died yet?"

Now, I worked with an older Indian gentleman a few years back, and he referred to Churchill as a bastard. Now I see why.

Since I know you won't address these points directly, please proceed to cut and paste your numbered crazy.

Because she's not making the argument for the teachings if Jesus Christ. She's making the argument for unfettered capitalism.

Christianity is what crony capitalists use to sell there wares.

You know, because Jesus was a venture capitalist that lobbied for free trade in the Temple.

 

[night_son]

Love this guy, Dennis Prager.
His latest exegesis explains the greatest threat to Western Civilization, the new religion, Leftism.



He begins by explaining why Leftist belief has been so very attractive to many folks.

1.“Marx saw man’s primary drive as economic, and Freud saw it as sex. But Viktor Frankl, in “Man’s Search for Meaning,” believed — correctly, in my opinion — that the greatest drive of man is meaning.
One can be poor and chaste and still be happy. But one cannot be bereft of meaning and be happy.


2. In the West, Christianity (and on a smaller scale, Judaism) provided nearly all people with the Bible, a divine or divinely inspired text to guide their lives; a religious community; answers to life’s fundamental questions; and, above all, meaning: A good God governs the universe; death does not end everything; and human beings were purposefully created.

The greatest provider of meaning for the vast majority of human beings has been religion.





3. All this has disappeared for most Westerners. The Bible is regarded as myth, silly at best, malicious at worst — there is no God, certainly not the morality-giving and judging God of the Bible; there is no afterlife; human beings are a purposeless coincidence with no more intrinsic purpose than anything else in the universe. In short: This Is All There Is.” Explaining the Left, Part III: Leftism as Secular Religion - The Dennis Prager Show





4. Sooo….where do so very many find meaning now that religion doesn’t provide same?

5. The abandonment of religion was the ‘gift’ of The Enlightenment, and of the French Revolution.

The Enlightenment gave the view that through science and reason, man could make himself replace God.
People seem to have missed the greatest difference, and the great loss: science can tell us what we can do, but not what we should do.

And, people seem not to have noticed that the reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.”
http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html

Three days after the completion of The Declaration of the Rights of Man and the Citizen, the mob stormed the Bastille, and marched around with the head of the prison’s commander, Marquis de Launay, on a pike. Shortly, the greatest nation in continental Europe became a human abattoir.




France’s revolution-by-mob has become an inspiration to be imitated in Germany, Russia, China, Vietnam, Cuba, Cambodia, North Korea, Venezuela, in short, for liberals everywhere.
The characteristics of the French Revolution that most clearly identify it as Liberal are that it was spontaneous, impulsive, passionate, emotional, romantic, utopian, resentful, angry, dreamy- anything and everything except disciplined and reasoned and stable.
See Coulter, “Demonic”


And Western Civilization was changed forever.

Spot on.

In the deistic and atheistic written works, philosophies and social theories of Voltaire, D’Alembert and Diderot and other, similar minded Enlightenment "thinkers" we find the ideological foundations of, and the bloody bridge to the "revolutionary hive mind" by mob execution of the French Revolution, and derivative Marxism. All ideological fantasies which promise liberation from the oppression of tradition, freedom without responsibility, and complete equality for the working man with the wealthiest one in a classless society--which always becomes rule by a small, elite party class. Contrary to Marx's giddy anticipations and predictions, a true dictatorship of the proletariat can only be a dictatorship of a few men, such as those who led the Reign of Terror during the French Revolution.

Timothy Dwight said: “Religion and liberty are the meat and the drink of the body politic. Withdraw one of them and it languishes, consumes, and dies. If indifference … becomes the prevailing character of a people … their motives to vigorous defense is lost, and the hopes of their enemies are proportionally increased. … Without religion we may possibly retain the freedom of savages, bears, and wolves, but not the freedom of New England. If our religion were gone, our state of society would perish with it and nothing would be left which would be worth defending.”

 

[night_son]

6. Sooo….where do so very many find meaning now that religion doesn’t provide same?

[Not in] “marriage and family — increasingly, secular individuals in the West eschew marriage, and even more do not have children. It turns out, to the surprise of many, that marriage and children are religious values, not human instincts.



In the West today, love and marriage (and children) go together like a horse and a carriage for faithful Catholics, Orthodox Jews, religious Mormons and evangelical Protestants — not for the secular.

I know many religious families with more than four children; I do not know one secular family with more than four children (and the odds are you don’t either).



The answer to the great dearth of meaning left by the death of biblical religion in the West is secular religion.
The first two great secular substitutes were communism and Nazism. The first provided hundreds of millions of people with meaning; the latter provided most Germans and Austrians with meaning.” Prager, Op.Cit.



"The first two great secular substitutes were communism and Nazism."

Well......

Prager glosses over the fact that Hitler and the Nazis proudly admitted that the model for their programs was the Progressive movement in the United States.....and the Democrat Party.


But....Communism, Nazism, Progressivism, and the Democrat Party could all be considered under the rubric of 'Leftism.'

Meaning for our near modern American youth majorities was dialed away from Christianity and God to first, the sexual revolution--post WW2; the anti-establishment peace, love, collectivist hippy colony culture, and then steered by radical Leftist American cultural revolutionaries into high academia, for intellectual mastication, digestion and accordingly, dissemination back into the minds of tens of millions of Americans through higher education syllabi, public school curriculum and the education industry. Nowadays, the fundamental, primordial meanings of religion and God have been supplanted by the self-gratifying, self-justifying meanings of smart device delivered instant media entertainment and an ideologue professorship cadre and political Leftism who do our thinking for us via cultural, political and social engineering.

 

[Tehon]

And, people seem not to have noticed that the reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.”

It probably had more to do with the ocean that separated the colonies from the monarchy.

The American and French revolutions shared in common the ideas of the enlightenment philosophies.

 

[PoliticalChic]

And, people seem not to have noticed that the reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.”

It probably had more to do with the ocean that separated the colonies from the monarchy.

The American and French revolutions shared in common the ideas of the enlightenment philosophies.

"The American and French revolutions shared in common the ideas of the enlightenment philosophies."

Of course they didn't, you dunce.

You must be a government school grad, huh?


One was based on religion, the other in opposition to religion.
September 2, 1792 During what became known as the September Massacres of the French Revolution, rampaging mobs slaughter three Roman Catholic Church bishops and more than two hundred priests.





1 Compare the traditional American view, that of our Founders, and the Progressive view, formed in the bubbling cauldron stirred by the three witches, Hegel and Marx and Rousseau.

Every totalitarian doctrine.....Communism, Liberalism, Socialism, Fascism, Nazism, and Progressivism....
...can be traced back to those three witches.




"....much like a rabid dog."


That phrase is exactly the way Rousseau referred to individuals who did not fall lock-step in line with government....

2. Although attributed to Rousseau, it was Diderot who gave the model for totalitarianism of reason: “We must reason about all things,” and anyone who ‘refuses to seek out the truth’ thereby renounces his human nature and “should be treated by the rest of his species as a wild beast.” So, once ‘truth’ is determined, anyone who doesn’t accept it was “either insane or wicked and morally evil.” It is not the individual who has the “ right to decide about the nature of right and wrong,” but only “the human race,” expressed as the general will.
Himmelfarb, “The Roads to Modernity,” p. 167-68


3.And what does one do with a rabid dog???

Kill, kill, kill.
Three days after the completion of The Declaration of the Rights of Man and the Citizen, the mob stormed the Bastille, and marched around with the head of the prison’s commander, Marquis de Launay, on a pike. Shortly, the greatest nation in continental Europe became a human abattoir.


4. In the course of France's short revolution, 600,000 French citizens were killed, and another 145,000 fled the country.
Schom, "Napoleon Bonaparte," p. 253.

5. "That's in a country with between 24 and 26 million people, about the current population of Texas. In terms of population loss, that would be the equivalent of the United States having a 9/11 attack every day for seven years." Coulter, "Demonic," p. 266.



Don't ever equate the two revolutions again.

 

[PoliticalChic]

7. The 20th century, the ‘slaughter century’ revealed the true nature of Communism and Nazism. ‘Nazi’ became the sort of curse you used on your enemies, but, because of the warm welcome Franklin Roosevelt gave to communism…. FDR knew of the Terror Famine...designed and perpetrated by 'Uncle Joe,'...yet he enveloped Joe Stalin in " the cloak of his popularity..." Time Magazine, December 17, 1934.

….communism has found a warm and welcoming home here, most especially in the Democrat Party.







8. So, Communism, cultural Marxism, embedded itself in America under various names….

“The radicals were not likely to go into business or the conventional practice of the professions. They were part of the chattering class, talkers interested in policy, politics, culture. They went into politics, print and electronic journalism, church bureaucracies, foundation staffs, Hollywood careers, public interest organizations, anywhere attitudes and opinions could be influenced. And they are exerting influence.” Robert H. Bork, “Slouching Toward Gomorrah,” p. 51


“[The radicals] did not go away or change their minds; the New Left shattered into a multitude of single-issue groups. We now have, to name a few, radical feminists, black extremists, animal rights groups, radical environmentalists, activist homosexual organizations, multiculturalists, organizations such as People for the American Way, the American Civil Liberties Union, the National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL), the National Organization for Women (NOW), and Planned Parenthood.” Ibid p. 53




Communism….hidden in plain sight. It became the most dynamic religion.

 

[night_son]

Anti-revolutionaries were sent to the guillotine. An example of just how much revolutionary leaders feared the voice and pen of the opposition. Nowadays, Political Correctness has replaced the blade of the national razor in severing thoughts and words on opposition tongues.

 

[percysunshine]

2. In the West, Christianity (and on a smaller scale, Judaism) provided nearly all people with the Bible, a divine or divinely inspired text to guide their lives; a religious community; answers to life’s fundamental questions; and, above all, meaning:

not to mention witch burning, torturing heretics, molesting altar boys, collaborating with Fascism... Good times.

Witch burning...like #MeToo?
Torturing global warming heretics?
Sending Antifa 'Brown Shirt' thugs to supress speech?

Yeah...sure....good times.

 

[Tehon]

And, people seem not to have noticed that the reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.”

It probably had more to do with the ocean that separated the colonies from the monarchy.

The American and French revolutions shared in common the ideas of the enlightenment philosophies.

"The American and French revolutions shared in common the ideas of the enlightenment philosophies."

Of course they didn't, you dunce.

You must be a government school grad, huh?


One was based on religion, the other in opposition to religion.
September 2, 1792 During what became known as the September Massacres of the French Revolution, rampaging mobs slaughter three Roman Catholic Church bishops and more than two hundred priests.





1 Compare the traditional American view, that of our Founders, and the Progressive view, formed in the bubbling cauldron stirred by the three witches, Hegel and Marx and Rousseau.

Every totalitarian doctrine.....Communism, Liberalism, Socialism, Fascism, Nazism, and Progressivism....
...can be traced back to those three witches.




"....much like a rabid dog."


That phrase is exactly the way Rousseau referred to individuals who did not fall lock-step in line with government....

2. Although attributed to Rousseau, it was Diderot who gave the model for totalitarianism of reason: “We must reason about all things,” and anyone who ‘refuses to seek out the truth’ thereby renounces his human nature and “should be treated by the rest of his species as a wild beast.” So, once ‘truth’ is determined, anyone who doesn’t accept it was “either insane or wicked and morally evil.” It is not the individual who has the “ right to decide about the nature of right and wrong,” but only “the human race,” expressed as the general will.
Himmelfarb, “The Roads to Modernity,” p. 167-68


3.And what does one do with a rabid dog???

Kill, kill, kill.
Three days after the completion of The Declaration of the Rights of Man and the Citizen, the mob stormed the Bastille, and marched around with the head of the prison’s commander, Marquis de Launay, on a pike. Shortly, the greatest nation in continental Europe became a human abattoir.


4. In the course of France's short revolution, 600,000 French citizens were killed, and another 145,000 fled the country.
Schom, "Napoleon Bonaparte," p. 253.

5. "That's in a country with between 24 and 26 million people, about the current population of Texas. In terms of population loss, that would be the equivalent of the United States having a 9/11 attack every day for seven years." Coulter, "Demonic," p. 266.



Don't ever equate the two revolutions again.

Again, what we find here is a difference of geography. The American Revolutionaries had merely to persuade the monarchy to retreat across an ocean. At which point they were free to build a republic that separated the church from the state.

The French revolutionaries lacked that convenience. They had to forcibly separate the church from the state.

Same enlightenment philosophy. Different set of circumstances.

 

[PoliticalChic]

And, people seem not to have noticed that the reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.”

It probably had more to do with the ocean that separated the colonies from the monarchy.

The American and French revolutions shared in common the ideas of the enlightenment philosophies.

"The American and French revolutions shared in common the ideas of the enlightenment philosophies."

Of course they didn't, you dunce.

You must be a government school grad, huh?


One was based on religion, the other in opposition to religion.
September 2, 1792 During what became known as the September Massacres of the French Revolution, rampaging mobs slaughter three Roman Catholic Church bishops and more than two hundred priests.





1 Compare the traditional American view, that of our Founders, and the Progressive view, formed in the bubbling cauldron stirred by the three witches, Hegel and Marx and Rousseau.

Every totalitarian doctrine.....Communism, Liberalism, Socialism, Fascism, Nazism, and Progressivism....
...can be traced back to those three witches.




"....much like a rabid dog."


That phrase is exactly the way Rousseau referred to individuals who did not fall lock-step in line with government....

2. Although attributed to Rousseau, it was Diderot who gave the model for totalitarianism of reason: “We must reason about all things,” and anyone who ‘refuses to seek out the truth’ thereby renounces his human nature and “should be treated by the rest of his species as a wild beast.” So, once ‘truth’ is determined, anyone who doesn’t accept it was “either insane or wicked and morally evil.” It is not the individual who has the “ right to decide about the nature of right and wrong,” but only “the human race,” expressed as the general will.
Himmelfarb, “The Roads to Modernity,” p. 167-68


3.And what does one do with a rabid dog???

Kill, kill, kill.
Three days after the completion of The Declaration of the Rights of Man and the Citizen, the mob stormed the Bastille, and marched around with the head of the prison’s commander, Marquis de Launay, on a pike. Shortly, the greatest nation in continental Europe became a human abattoir.


4. In the course of France's short revolution, 600,000 French citizens were killed, and another 145,000 fled the country.
Schom, "Napoleon Bonaparte," p. 253.

5. "That's in a country with between 24 and 26 million people, about the current population of Texas. In terms of population loss, that would be the equivalent of the United States having a 9/11 attack every day for seven years." Coulter, "Demonic," p. 266.



Don't ever equate the two revolutions again.

Again, what we find here is a difference of geography. The American Revolutionaries had merely to persuade the monarchy to retreat across an ocean. At which point they were free to build a republic that separated the church from the state.

The French revolutionaries lacked that convenience. They had to forcibly separate the church from the state.

Same enlightenment philosophy. Different set of circumstances.

There's not a single point that I've made that is not 100% true, accurate, and correct.


What we find here is that you've got egg on your face.....and I put it there.


But.....don't try to wipe it off....it's an improvement.

 

[jwoodie]

Prager is brilliant, except regarding cigars.

 

[Tehon]

And, people seem not to have noticed that the reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.”

It probably had more to do with the ocean that separated the colonies from the monarchy.

The American and French revolutions shared in common the ideas of the enlightenment philosophies.

"The American and French revolutions shared in common the ideas of the enlightenment philosophies."

Of course they didn't, you dunce.

You must be a government school grad, huh?


One was based on religion, the other in opposition to religion.
September 2, 1792 During what became known as the September Massacres of the French Revolution, rampaging mobs slaughter three Roman Catholic Church bishops and more than two hundred priests.





1 Compare the traditional American view, that of our Founders, and the Progressive view, formed in the bubbling cauldron stirred by the three witches, Hegel and Marx and Rousseau.

Every totalitarian doctrine.....Communism, Liberalism, Socialism, Fascism, Nazism, and Progressivism....
...can be traced back to those three witches.




"....much like a rabid dog."


That phrase is exactly the way Rousseau referred to individuals who did not fall lock-step in line with government....

2. Although attributed to Rousseau, it was Diderot who gave the model for totalitarianism of reason: “We must reason about all things,” and anyone who ‘refuses to seek out the truth’ thereby renounces his human nature and “should be treated by the rest of his species as a wild beast.” So, once ‘truth’ is determined, anyone who doesn’t accept it was “either insane or wicked and morally evil.” It is not the individual who has the “ right to decide about the nature of right and wrong,” but only “the human race,” expressed as the general will.
Himmelfarb, “The Roads to Modernity,” p. 167-68


3.And what does one do with a rabid dog???

Kill, kill, kill.
Three days after the completion of The Declaration of the Rights of Man and the Citizen, the mob stormed the Bastille, and marched around with the head of the prison’s commander, Marquis de Launay, on a pike. Shortly, the greatest nation in continental Europe became a human abattoir.


4. In the course of France's short revolution, 600,000 French citizens were killed, and another 145,000 fled the country.
Schom, "Napoleon Bonaparte," p. 253.

5. "That's in a country with between 24 and 26 million people, about the current population of Texas. In terms of population loss, that would be the equivalent of the United States having a 9/11 attack every day for seven years." Coulter, "Demonic," p. 266.



Don't ever equate the two revolutions again.

Again, what we find here is a difference of geography. The American Revolutionaries had merely to persuade the monarchy to retreat across an ocean. At which point they were free to build a republic that separated the church from the state.

The French revolutionaries lacked that convenience. They had to forcibly separate the church from the state.

Same enlightenment philosophy. Different set of circumstances.

There's not a single point that I've made that is not 100% true, accurate, and correct.


What we find here is that you've got egg on your face.....and I put it there.


But.....don't try to wipe it off....it's an improvement.

It is always fascinating to watch you expose your sources of indoctrination even as you decry liberal indoctrination as a means of understanding. And to do so when a simple, common sense examination would have sufficed is truly amusing.

 

[PoliticalChic]

And, people seem not to have noticed that the reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.”

It probably had more to do with the ocean that separated the colonies from the monarchy.

The American and French revolutions shared in common the ideas of the enlightenment philosophies.

"The American and French revolutions shared in common the ideas of the enlightenment philosophies."

Of course they didn't, you dunce.

You must be a government school grad, huh?


One was based on religion, the other in opposition to religion.
September 2, 1792 During what became known as the September Massacres of the French Revolution, rampaging mobs slaughter three Roman Catholic Church bishops and more than two hundred priests.





1 Compare the traditional American view, that of our Founders, and the Progressive view, formed in the bubbling cauldron stirred by the three witches, Hegel and Marx and Rousseau.

Every totalitarian doctrine.....Communism, Liberalism, Socialism, Fascism, Nazism, and Progressivism....
...can be traced back to those three witches.




"....much like a rabid dog."


That phrase is exactly the way Rousseau referred to individuals who did not fall lock-step in line with government....

2. Although attributed to Rousseau, it was Diderot who gave the model for totalitarianism of reason: “We must reason about all things,” and anyone who ‘refuses to seek out the truth’ thereby renounces his human nature and “should be treated by the rest of his species as a wild beast.” So, once ‘truth’ is determined, anyone who doesn’t accept it was “either insane or wicked and morally evil.” It is not the individual who has the “ right to decide about the nature of right and wrong,” but only “the human race,” expressed as the general will.
Himmelfarb, “The Roads to Modernity,” p. 167-68


3.And what does one do with a rabid dog???

Kill, kill, kill.
Three days after the completion of The Declaration of the Rights of Man and the Citizen, the mob stormed the Bastille, and marched around with the head of the prison’s commander, Marquis de Launay, on a pike. Shortly, the greatest nation in continental Europe became a human abattoir.


4. In the course of France's short revolution, 600,000 French citizens were killed, and another 145,000 fled the country.
Schom, "Napoleon Bonaparte," p. 253.

5. "That's in a country with between 24 and 26 million people, about the current population of Texas. In terms of population loss, that would be the equivalent of the United States having a 9/11 attack every day for seven years." Coulter, "Demonic," p. 266.



Don't ever equate the two revolutions again.

Again, what we find here is a difference of geography. The American Revolutionaries had merely to persuade the monarchy to retreat across an ocean. At which point they were free to build a republic that separated the church from the state.

The French revolutionaries lacked that convenience. They had to forcibly separate the church from the state.

Same enlightenment philosophy. Different set of circumstances.

There's not a single point that I've made that is not 100% true, accurate, and correct.


What we find here is that you've got egg on your face.....and I put it there.


But.....don't try to wipe it off....it's an improvement.

It is always fascinating to watch you expose your sources of indoctrination even as you decry liberal indoctrination as a means of understanding. And to do so when a simple, common sense examination would have sufficed is truly amusing.

I 'exposed' my brilliance, and exceptional knowledge....

....and here you are with your second 'is not, issssssss noooottttttt!!!!' post.



Let's be honest. You don't have the insight, intelligence, or education to either understand or respond to the OP. All you can do is swing wildly.
As you have.

 

[JoeB131]

Witch burning...like #MeToo?

Hmmm... Really? This is the best you can come up with? Did they burn Harvey Weinstein when I wasn't looking?

orturing global warming heretics?

Really. when did this happen? I'd pay good money to see those corporate whores tortured, but it's not to be.

 

[Tehon]

I 'exposed' my brilliance, and exceptional knowledge....

You exposed nothing but your adulation for the one who indoctrinates you.

Love this guy, Dennis Prager.
His latest exegesis explains the greatest threat to Western Civilization, the new religion, Leftism.



He begins by explaining why Leftist belief has been so very attractive to many folks.