The Latest Socialist Excuse...

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    ... Is that conservatives are the real socialists. If that were true, he'd be a Repub.

     
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    Same old deflections by the Progressives.
     
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    Trump is the poster boy for one specific brand of capitalism:
    The vultures and raiders who swing from speculation to swindling and qualify as criminal or extralegal excrescences of society.


    Bernie correctly identifies Trump as the current token of class struggle in the US and the threat to democracy he represents.

    Trump is the poster child for why capitalism needs to be modulated

    "Sanders attracts the intense support of a small left-wing intellectual vanguard who see American politics in fundamentally different terms than most Democrats do.

    "The primary struggle in American politics as they see it is not between liberalism and conservatism, but between socialism and capitalism.

    "Sanders labels himself as a socialist and frames his rhetoric in Marxian class terms, which sets him apart from other Democrats…Socialists — at least those who aren’t willing to settle for the incremental advances traditionally held out by liberal Democrats as their only option — see Sanders’s presidential candidacy as uniquely compelling.

    "The struggle between Sanders and other Democrats strikes them as far more significant than the contest between the non-socialist Democrats and the Republicans."

    Donald Trump, Lumpen Capitalist
     
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    I agree that the primary struggle in American politics is between socialism and capitalism and that Bernie and at least 1/3 of Americans are dim enough to prefer the former. In fact, pretending what they promote is anything but the end of American freedom and prosperity is naive at best.

    so·cial·ism
    /ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
    noun
    1. a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
      • (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.
     
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    What problem do you have with businesses being run by a majority of workers instead of the richest one percent of shareholders/stakeholders?
     
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    at this profound moment in american history, where the billionaires want it all for me me me me, we have to fight back toe to toe and not give up an inch. we cannot allow the billionaire class to take over DC, and we will not allow them to take over america
     
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    the United States has been an economic and innovation marvel and our national wealth has been good for our citizens and enabled us to be a force of good throughout the world
     
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    Are you pretty much always in troll mode?
     
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    Trump's the second generation poster child for socialism for the rich and rugged, "free" market individualism for the poor.
     

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