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The Latest Socialist Excuse...
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I agree that the primary struggle in American politics is between socialism and capitalism and that Bernie and at least 1/3 of Americans are dim enough to prefer the former. In fact, pretending what they promote is anything but the end of American freedom and prosperity is naive at best."Sanders attracts the intense support of a small left-wing intellectual vanguard who see American politics in fundamentally different terms than most Democrats do.
"The primary struggle in American politics as they see it is not between liberalism and conservatism, but between socialism and capitalism...
so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun
- a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
- (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.
What problem do you have with businesses being run by a majority of workers instead of the richest one percent of shareholders/stakeholders?a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole
You are an idiot! It doesn't mean the workers(you) will own or run anything. You are the workers and the "Community" is just another word for the Politicians with the Power to force you to work (for the commune) or find "other options for you". If you are unable to produce in a socialist society you are not needed, if you don't follow the Ideology you are a dissident and must be eliminated.
I agree that the primary struggle in American politics is between socialism and capitalism and that Bernie and at least 1/3 of Americans are dim enough to prefer the former. In fact, pretending what they promote is anything but the end of American freedom and prosperity is naive at best."Sanders attracts the intense support of a small left-wing intellectual vanguard who see American politics in fundamentally different terms than most Democrats do.
"The primary struggle in American politics as they see it is not between liberalism and conservatism, but between socialism and capitalism...
so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun
- a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
- (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.
What problem do you have with businesses being run by a majority of workers instead of the richest one percent of shareholders/stakeholders?a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole
You are an idiot! It doesn't mean the workers(you) will own or run anything. You are the workers and the "Community" is just another word for the Politicians with the Power to force you to work (for the commune) or find "other options for you". If you are unable to produce in a socialist society you are not needed, if you don't follow the Ideology you are a dissident and must be eliminated.
Have you been in a coma for the last thirty years?You are an idiot! It doesn't mean the workers(you) will own or run anything. You are the workers and the "Community" is just another word for the Politicians with the Power to force you to work (for the commune) or find "other options for you". I
Democratizing the Workplace through “Worker Self-Directed Enterprises”
"Contemporary capitalism no longer 'delivers the goods' (which is understood as a rising standard of real wages) to the majority of people.
"That classic defense of its instability (e.g. recurrent bouts of unemployment), its deepening economic, political, and cultural inequalities, and its attendant injustices is no longer plausible.
"In the U.S. since the 1970s, and especially since 2007, those who control the dominant capitalist enterprises have made decisions that undermined the delivery of rising standards of living to the mass of people..."
"We therefore propose reorganizing enterprises such that workers become their own bosses. That means placing the workers in the position of their own collective board of directors, rather than having directors be non-workers selected by major shareholders.
"This is not primarily a matter of workers as owners of these enterprises, nor primarily as managers. It is the tasks of direction—the decision-making now assigned usually and primarily to corporate boards of directors and only secondarily to the major shareholders who choose them—that must be transferred to the workers collectively.
"We call such enterprises worker self-directed enterprises (WSDEs). They embody economic democracy by locating it first and foremost inside the enterprises producing the goods and services upon which society depends.
"WSDEs represent the goal; and their growth and proliferation represent the mechanism to transition from the present capitalist system to a far better next system."
Trump's the second generation poster child for socialism for the rich and rugged, "free" market individualism for the poor.Trump is the poster child for government "modulating" capitalism - and a shining example of why it's such a bad idea.
Exactly. That's part of the deal. When you let government control the economy, then those in charge of government get their way.If rich individuals and corporations control the government and Federal Reserve, does not the ultimate control of the economy reside with private capitalists?Exactly. That's part of the deal. When you let government control the economy, then those in charge of government get their way
Well, I think ultimate control of the economy should reside with private capitalists, so that's a wash - but not through the Fed or via control of the government. Government should have no part to play. That's the problem now.Do you believe property rights come from god or government?Well, I think ultimate control of the economy should reside with private capitalists, so that's a wash - but not through the Fed or via control of the government. Government should have no part to play. That's the problem now
Property rights are a construct of government. What is your point? Are you suggesting that because government enforces rules regarding property that they should also have broad powers to dictate our economic decisions? Why?
Bootney Lee Farnsworth
Diamond Member
I agree that the primary struggle in American politics is between socialism and capitalism and that Bernie and at least 1/3 of Americans are dim enough to prefer the former. In fact, pretending what they promote is anything but the end of American freedom and prosperity is naive at best."Sanders attracts the intense support of a small left-wing intellectual vanguard who see American politics in fundamentally different terms than most Democrats do.
"The primary struggle in American politics as they see it is not between liberalism and conservatism, but between socialism and capitalism...
so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun
- a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
- (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.
What problem do you have with businesses being run by a majority of workers instead of the richest one percent of shareholders/stakeholders?a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole
That's not socialism.
Stealing it from the owners? Now that is socialism, which is why we must kill all socialists. They must all fucking die.
Kill a commie fo mommy.
.
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I agree that the primary struggle in American politics is between socialism and capitalism and that Bernie and at least 1/3 of Americans are dim enough to prefer the former. In fact, pretending what they promote is anything but the end of American freedom and prosperity is naive at best."Sanders attracts the intense support of a small left-wing intellectual vanguard who see American politics in fundamentally different terms than most Democrats do.
"The primary struggle in American politics as they see it is not between liberalism and conservatism, but between socialism and capitalism...
so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun
- a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
- (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.
What problem do you have with businesses being run by a majority of workers instead of the richest one percent of shareholders/stakeholders?a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole
It has never worked, and it never will. How can you give workers control over corporations without expropriating trillions in private property?
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I agree that the primary struggle in American politics is between socialism and capitalism and that Bernie and at least 1/3 of Americans are dim enough to prefer the former. In fact, pretending what they promote is anything but the end of American freedom and prosperity is naive at best."Sanders attracts the intense support of a small left-wing intellectual vanguard who see American politics in fundamentally different terms than most Democrats do.
"The primary struggle in American politics as they see it is not between liberalism and conservatism, but between socialism and capitalism...
so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun
- a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
- (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.
What problem do you have with businesses being run by a majority of workers instead of the richest one percent of shareholders/stakeholders?a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole
You are an idiot! It doesn't mean the workers(you) will own or run anything. You are the workers and the "Community" is just another word for the Politicians with the Power to force you to work (for the commune) or find "other options for you". If you are unable to produce in a socialist society you are not needed, if you don't follow the Ideology you are a dissident and must be eliminated.
Have you been in a coma for the last thirty years?You are an idiot! It doesn't mean the workers(you) will own or run anything. You are the workers and the "Community" is just another word for the Politicians with the Power to force you to work (for the commune) or find "other options for you". I
Democratizing the Workplace through “Worker Self-Directed Enterprises”
"Contemporary capitalism no longer 'delivers the goods' (which is understood as a rising standard of real wages) to the majority of people.
"That classic defense of its instability (e.g. recurrent bouts of unemployment), its deepening economic, political, and cultural inequalities, and its attendant injustices is no longer plausible.
"In the U.S. since the 1970s, and especially since 2007, those who control the dominant capitalist enterprises have made decisions that undermined the delivery of rising standards of living to the mass of people..."
"We therefore propose reorganizing enterprises such that workers become their own bosses. That means placing the workers in the position of their own collective board of directors, rather than having directors be non-workers selected by major shareholders.
"This is not primarily a matter of workers as owners of these enterprises, nor primarily as managers. It is the tasks of direction—the decision-making now assigned usually and primarily to corporate boards of directors and only secondarily to the major shareholders who choose them—that must be transferred to the workers collectively.
"We call such enterprises worker self-directed enterprises (WSDEs). They embody economic democracy by locating it first and foremost inside the enterprises producing the goods and services upon which society depends.
"WSDEs represent the goal; and their growth and proliferation represent the mechanism to transition from the present capitalist system to a far better next system."
Why is it you people always want to take over an existing profitable company instead of starting your own? It’s almost as if you can’t do it and you know it. So really you need someone else to take the risk and invest all they have and only if it pays off then and only then do you demand part of the action.
That alone means you don’t deserve or are capable of running anything. You don’t deserve a say, you don’t deserve 15 bucks an hour and you don’t deserve any of the profits.
You’re too stupid to do it on your own. And you’re too stupid to take over for the person that did it.
- Thread starter
- #28
I agree that the primary struggle in American politics is between socialism and capitalism and that Bernie and at least 1/3 of Americans are dim enough to prefer the former. In fact, pretending what they promote is anything but the end of American freedom and prosperity is naive at best."Sanders attracts the intense support of a small left-wing intellectual vanguard who see American politics in fundamentally different terms than most Democrats do.
"The primary struggle in American politics as they see it is not between liberalism and conservatism, but between socialism and capitalism...
so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun
- a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
- (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.
What problem do you have with businesses being run by a majority of workers instead of the richest one percent of shareholders/stakeholders?a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole
American biz is not run by the richest one percent of shareholders, Comrade George, and if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao you will end up in Venezuela.
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- #29
So all your BS about the wonder and beauty of your "Worker's Paradise" was just you being a silly idiot?the United States has been an economic and innovation marvel and our national wealth has been good for our citizens and enabled us to be a force of good throughout the world
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- #30
Or they refuse to own their mistakes because they never grow past adolescence.They never emotionally grow past adolescence because they refuse to own their mistakesSame old deflections by the Progressives.
I'm not certain if they are leftards because they are so stupid or leftardism makes 'em so stupid.
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- #31
Comrade George is the result of the human brain on leftardism.Trump's the second generation poster child for socialism for the rich and rugged, "free" market individualism for the poor.
Trump is the poster child for government "modulating" capitalism - and a shining example of why it's such a bad idea.
Exactly. That's part of the deal. When you let government control the economy, then those in charge of government get their way.If rich individuals and corporations control the government and Federal Reserve, does not the ultimate control of the economy reside with private capitalists?Exactly. That's part of the deal. When you let government control the economy, then those in charge of government get their way
- Thread starter
- #32
What is or can be more elitist than the unshakable belief of those who demand that gov't confiscate the hard earned wealth of others and give it to them and those who support such silliness?Elitism ^The majority of workers aren't running companies right now because they don't know how to effectively run a company, Einstien....What problem do you have with businesses being run by a majority of workers instead of the richest one percent of shareholders/stakeholders?
If you'd ever signed the front of a paycheck, you couldn't possibly have asked such a stupid question.
- Feb 22, 2017
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I agree that the primary struggle in American politics is between socialism and capitalism and that Bernie and at least 1/3 of Americans are dim enough to prefer the former. In fact, pretending what they promote is anything but the end of American freedom and prosperity is naive at best."Sanders attracts the intense support of a small left-wing intellectual vanguard who see American politics in fundamentally different terms than most Democrats do.
"The primary struggle in American politics as they see it is not between liberalism and conservatism, but between socialism and capitalism...
so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun
- a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
- (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.
What problem do you have with businesses being run by a majority of workers instead of the richest one percent of shareholders/stakeholders?a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole
You are an idiot! It doesn't mean the workers(you) will own or run anything. You are the workers and the "Community" is just another word for the Politicians with the Power to force you to work (for the commune) or find "other options for you". If you are unable to produce in a socialist society you are not needed, if you don't follow the Ideology you are a dissident and must be eliminated.
Have you been in a coma for the last thirty years?You are an idiot! It doesn't mean the workers(you) will own or run anything. You are the workers and the "Community" is just another word for the Politicians with the Power to force you to work (for the commune) or find "other options for you". I
Democratizing the Workplace through “Worker Self-Directed Enterprises”
"Contemporary capitalism no longer 'delivers the goods' (which is understood as a rising standard of real wages) to the majority of people.
"That classic defense of its instability (e.g. recurrent bouts of unemployment), its deepening economic, political, and cultural inequalities, and its attendant injustices is no longer plausible.
"In the U.S. since the 1970s, and especially since 2007, those who control the dominant capitalist enterprises have made decisions that undermined the delivery of rising standards of living to the mass of people..."
"We therefore propose reorganizing enterprises such that workers become their own bosses. That means placing the workers in the position of their own collective board of directors, rather than having directors be non-workers selected by major shareholders.
"This is not primarily a matter of workers as owners of these enterprises, nor primarily as managers. It is the tasks of direction—the decision-making now assigned usually and primarily to corporate boards of directors and only secondarily to the major shareholders who choose them—that must be transferred to the workers collectively.
"We call such enterprises worker self-directed enterprises (WSDEs). They embody economic democracy by locating it first and foremost inside the enterprises producing the goods and services upon which society depends.
"WSDEs represent the goal; and their growth and proliferation represent the mechanism to transition from the present capitalist system to a far better next system."
Why is it you people always want to take over an existing profitable company instead of starting your own? It’s almost as if you can’t do it and you know it. So really you need someone else to take the risk and invest all they have and only if it pays off then and only then do you demand part of the action.
That alone means you don’t deserve or are capable of running anything. You don’t deserve a say, you don’t deserve 15 bucks an hour and you don’t deserve any of the profits.
You’re too stupid to do it on your own. And you’re too stupid to take over for the person that did it.
Same reason people beg the government to break up Amazon and FB and Google.
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What is or can be more elitist than the unshakable belief of those who demand that gov't confiscate the hard earned wealth of others and give it to them and those who support such silliness?Elitism ^The majority of workers aren't running companies right now because they don't know how to effectively run a company, Einstien....What problem do you have with businesses being run by a majority of workers instead of the richest one percent of shareholders/stakeholders?
If you'd ever signed the front of a paycheck, you couldn't possibly have asked such a stupid question.
Silliness on stilts:What is or can be more elitist than the unshakable belief of those who demand that gov't confiscate the hard earned wealth of others and give it to them and those who support such silliness?
"Today the Walton family of Walmart own more wealth than the bottom 40 percent of America."
— Bernie Sanders on Sunday, July 22nd, 2012 in a message on Twitter"
How hard did the Walton heirs work in order to "earn" their fortunes?
Bernie Sanders says Walmart heirs own more wealth than bottom 40 percent of Americans
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What is or can be more elitist than the unshakable belief of those who demand that gov't confiscate the hard earned wealth of others and give it to them and those who support such silliness?Elitism ^The majority of workers aren't running companies right now because they don't know how to effectively run a company, Einstien....What problem do you have with businesses being run by a majority of workers instead of the richest one percent of shareholders/stakeholders?
If you'd ever signed the front of a paycheck, you couldn't possibly have asked such a stupid question.Silliness on stilts:What is or can be more elitist than the unshakable belief of those who demand that gov't confiscate the hard earned wealth of others and give it to them and those who support such silliness?
"Today the Walton family of Walmart own more wealth than the bottom 40 percent of America."
— Bernie Sanders on Sunday, July 22nd, 2012 in a message on Twitter"
How hard did the Walton heirs work in order to "earn" their fortunes?
Bernie Sanders says Walmart heirs own more wealth than bottom 40 percent of Americans
Not in any way defending WalMart...but how does the “hourly” rate of retirement get calculated? How many hours a week is someone retired?
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I agree that the primary struggle in American politics is between socialism and capitalism and that Bernie and at least 1/3 of Americans are dim enough to prefer the former. In fact, pretending what they promote is anything but the end of American freedom and prosperity is naive at best.
so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun
- a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
- (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.
What problem do you have with businesses being run by a majority of workers instead of the richest one percent of shareholders/stakeholders?a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole
You are an idiot! It doesn't mean the workers(you) will own or run anything. You are the workers and the "Community" is just another word for the Politicians with the Power to force you to work (for the commune) or find "other options for you". If you are unable to produce in a socialist society you are not needed, if you don't follow the Ideology you are a dissident and must be eliminated.
Have you been in a coma for the last thirty years?You are an idiot! It doesn't mean the workers(you) will own or run anything. You are the workers and the "Community" is just another word for the Politicians with the Power to force you to work (for the commune) or find "other options for you". I
Democratizing the Workplace through “Worker Self-Directed Enterprises”
"Contemporary capitalism no longer 'delivers the goods' (which is understood as a rising standard of real wages) to the majority of people.
"That classic defense of its instability (e.g. recurrent bouts of unemployment), its deepening economic, political, and cultural inequalities, and its attendant injustices is no longer plausible.
"In the U.S. since the 1970s, and especially since 2007, those who control the dominant capitalist enterprises have made decisions that undermined the delivery of rising standards of living to the mass of people..."
"We therefore propose reorganizing enterprises such that workers become their own bosses. That means placing the workers in the position of their own collective board of directors, rather than having directors be non-workers selected by major shareholders.
"This is not primarily a matter of workers as owners of these enterprises, nor primarily as managers. It is the tasks of direction—the decision-making now assigned usually and primarily to corporate boards of directors and only secondarily to the major shareholders who choose them—that must be transferred to the workers collectively.
"We call such enterprises worker self-directed enterprises (WSDEs). They embody economic democracy by locating it first and foremost inside the enterprises producing the goods and services upon which society depends.
"WSDEs represent the goal; and their growth and proliferation represent the mechanism to transition from the present capitalist system to a far better next system."
Why is it you people always want to take over an existing profitable company instead of starting your own? It’s almost as if you can’t do it and you know it. So really you need someone else to take the risk and invest all they have and only if it pays off then and only then do you demand part of the action.
That alone means you don’t deserve or are capable of running anything. You don’t deserve a say, you don’t deserve 15 bucks an hour and you don’t deserve any of the profits.
You’re too stupid to do it on your own. And you’re too stupid to take over for the person that did it.
Same reason people beg the government to break up Amazon and FB and Google.
Yep. Power and control. The core ideology of both major parties.
Trump's the second generation poster child for socialism for the rich and rugged, "free" market individualism for the poor.
Exactly. That's part of the deal. When you let government control the economy, then those in charge of government get their way.If rich individuals and corporations control the government and Federal Reserve, does not the ultimate control of the economy reside with private capitalists?Exactly. That's part of the deal. When you let government control the economy, then those in charge of government get their way
Well, I think ultimate control of the economy should reside with private capitalists, so that's a wash - but not through the Fed or via control of the government. Government should have no part to play. That's the problem now.Do you believe property rights come from god or government?Well, I think ultimate control of the economy should reside with private capitalists, so that's a wash - but not through the Fed or via control of the government. Government should have no part to play. That's the problem now
Property rights are a construct of government. What is your point? Are you suggesting that because government enforces rules regarding property that they should also have broad powers to dictate our economic decisions? Why?
If the only property rights you and I enjoy are those sanctioned by government, then those rights should be determined on the basis of one vote per citizen and not one vote per (corporate) dollar. When political pressure from below forced FDR to impose high taxes on wealth and business to fund mass relief from the capitalist Great Depression, we saw an example of government enforcing rules regarding property that enhanced the lives on millions of productive Americans at the expense of the economic parasites of the time. Another redistribution is long overdue:Property rights are a construct of government. What is your point? Are you suggesting that because government enforces rules regarding property that they should also have broad powers to dictate our economic decisions? Why?
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Exactly. That's part of the deal. When you let government control the economy, then those in charge of government get their way.If rich individuals and corporations control the government and Federal Reserve, does not the ultimate control of the economy reside with private capitalists?Exactly. That's part of the deal. When you let government control the economy, then those in charge of government get their way
Well, I think ultimate control of the economy should reside with private capitalists, so that's a wash - but not through the Fed or via control of the government. Government should have no part to play. That's the problem now.Do you believe property rights come from god or government?Well, I think ultimate control of the economy should reside with private capitalists, so that's a wash - but not through the Fed or via control of the government. Government should have no part to play. That's the problem now
Property rights are a construct of government. What is your point? Are you suggesting that because government enforces rules regarding property that they should also have broad powers to dictate our economic decisions? Why?If the only property rights you and I enjoy are those sanctioned by government, then those rights should be determined on the basis of one vote per citizen and not one vote per (corporate) dollar. When political pressure from below forced FDR to impose high taxes on wealth and business to fund mass relief from the capitalist Great Depression, we saw an example of government enforcing rules regarding property that enhanced the lives on millions of productive Americans at the expense of the economic parasites of the time. Another redistribution is long overdue.Property rights are a construct of government. What is your point? Are you suggesting that because government enforces rules regarding property that they should also have broad powers to dictate our economic decisions? Why?
Still not seeing the 'why'. But let's talk about your economy of "one vote per citizen and not one vote per dollar". You seem to be saying that everyone should have exactly the same amount of money to spend. But once they spend it, their "vote" is transferred to the seller. What then? Do we have to give all the money back at the end of the day? How do you prevent people from delegating their "votes" (dollars) to another? And if they can't do that, how does an economy work at all?
I agree that the primary struggle in American politics is between socialism and capitalism and that Bernie and at least 1/3 of Americans are dim enough to prefer the former. In fact, pretending what they promote is anything but the end of American freedom and prosperity is naive at best."Sanders attracts the intense support of a small left-wing intellectual vanguard who see American politics in fundamentally different terms than most Democrats do.
"The primary struggle in American politics as they see it is not between liberalism and conservatism, but between socialism and capitalism...
so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun
- a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
- (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.
What problem do you have with businesses being run by a majority of workers instead of the richest one percent of shareholders/stakeholders?a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole
That's not socialism.
Stealing it from the owners? Now that is socialism, which is why we must kill all socialists. They must all fucking die.
Kill a commie fo mommy.
.
How do you expect to find political democracy without first implementing economic democracy, the same way your hero did in Germany?That's not socialism.
Stealing it from the owners? Now that is socialism, which is why we must kill all socialists. They must all fucking die.
I am from the government and I am here to help you.
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