The last space shuttle flight: Yeah..I am furious.

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    This is hard to watch..

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A--EWoLSBGs&feature=related]YouTube - ‪Goodbye Space Shuttle - Tribute‬‏[/ame]
     
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    We choose to go to the moon, Not because it is easy..but because it is hard.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuW4oGKzVKc]YouTube - ‪John F. Kennedy Moon Landing Speech - Rice Stadium 1962‬‏[/ame]

    What the fuck happened?
     
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    I remember a baseball quote: No ONE person lost this game, we all had a part in it, it was a real team effort.

    Space exploration faces apathy from both sides of the aisle. Progressives see it as money better spent on social programs. Conservatives usually support space exploration, but distrust NASA over its link to AGW science, and some see private industry as a better way to go. Add in a general disinterest from the public, and we get where we are now.

    Both sides have seen it as a bludgeon to use against the incubmbent administrations recently. Remember all the grief GWB got over his proposals for the Constellation projects? Well that is coming home to roost. Obama has supported the current Orion system, but that support came too late (not his fault actually) to bridge the gap between the end of the shuttle and the launching of the new system.

    One thing I do fault Obama (or at least his advisors on) is this whole privatization thing. It was, to me, purely a talking point, made to make conservatives look bad by making them look like supporters of "big government" when they were opposed to it, and supporters of continued funding of NASA's manned missions.
     
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    This should not be a partisan thing at all.

    It's very simple. We have to do this.

    Not because it is easy..but because it is hard. Humans need to be challenged and constantly.
     
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    Since its a government agency, politics become a factor. Alot of social progressives can't stand the space program, seeing it as a giant waste of money. This has been going on Since the 70's.
     
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    You think it's hard for you to watch, imagine a place that has worked on every flight, from training of the astronauts to the direction and control of every launch and recovery, a place that is home to most of the former astronauts and their families along with the widows of those whose lives were lost.......... imagine that the people in charge have decided not to give one of the few remaining shuttles to the museum that has displays of all of the many rockets that have been launched from Cape Canaveral. Instead they have decide to put one a mere 200 miles from another at our nations capital and National Air and Space museum, they've decided to place it in a waterfront setting next to an aircraft carrier in fucking New York City where some asshole gang shit will probably graffiti al over it......... that is a reason to be seriously pissed. Fuck that asswipe Obama, fuck Charles F. Bolden Jr, the guy he put in charge NASA (because he is black, obviously) and FUCK New York City!
     
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    You're mixing me up with a "social progressive". I am a Liberal. I like progress. Not foot dragging.

    War is a gigantic waste of money. Science and exploration are an investment.
     
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    Well up until your last bit..I would have agreed with you.

    And as for "graffiti", be sure to visit the Interpid next time you are in town.

    Intrepid Sea, Air and Space Museum | New York City

    Pretty awesome.

    No Graffiti.
     
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    Wasn't including you in the group, just pointing out a part of your side of the aisle that doesn't agree with you.
     
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    Also we are getting Enterprise, which has no engines, has never been into space, and is basically an aerodynamic test model.

    Go complain to the places that got a real one.
     
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