The idea that no solution exists never occurs to them & in this lies their strength

[Oddball]

Isn't the compassionate Conservative response to the lack of health insurance "Go to the emergency room!"?

Looks like the progressive Fabian response is to build a strawman and write a bumper sticker.

 

[daveman]

Yeah. The teabaggers frequently say that. The problem is, most of them can't really articulate what it's about either.

Given your previously-demonstrated lack of understanding of the TEA Party, this claim is suspect.

When you line up the dots, it's basically a bunch of conservatives that are pissed off about the '08 election and stole one of Ron Paul's gimmicks. They've been facilitated by PAC and special interest groups to try and create the appearance of being grass roots.

Not really, but I'm sure it comforts you to think so.

Where are you getting your "information"?

 

[daveman]

Isn't the compassionate Conservative response to the lack of health insurance "Go to the emergency room!"?

No. It's "Get an education, get a good job, and take care of yourself and your family." However, that's not an on-the-spot fix. It requires foresight and planning.

And lots of hard work.

Indeed. It's so much easier to whine that the government should take money away from other people and fix your problems.

 

[The T]

And this presents a constitutional crisis and a Socialist plot to control the Republic?!?!?!

In some states, motorcyclists are forced FORCED by the Socialist do-gooder state to actually wear a helmet whenever they operate their bikes on the public roadways! Can you believe it? Why, if Thomas Jefferson ever wore a helmet, it was his decision alone!

Health care! bitch, please!

Roadways ARE public and Government is mandated by the Constitution to build roads, therefore they may mandate the people their use.

And to what auspices and audacity does the Government have to force commerce unto it's people regarding Healthcare?

Can you please point this out?

Isn't the compassionate Conservative response to the lack of health insurance "Go to the emergency room!"? Now, those ERs are overwhelmed and completely inefficient as to care for chronic disease, pre-natal care and advanced conditions brought about by the lack of medical attention. Public hospitals are worse.

Roadways.....public hospitals


And the cost of the lack of medical attention is greater than the cost of that care in the first place.

Healthcare is an individual responsibility not a right. Nor has it ever been a right.

It is the right of the individual to expect non interference from Government.

Got it ace?

 

[daveman]

Healthcare is an individual responsibility not a right. Nor has it ever been a right.

It is the right of the individual to expect non interference from Government.

Got it ace?

Citizenship comes with responsibility. Some people prefer to be subjects.

 

[The T]

Healthcare is an individual responsibility not a right. Nor has it ever been a right.

It is the right of the individual to expect non interference from Government.

Got it ace?

Citizenship comes with responsibility. Some people prefer to be subjects.

Exactly. Some prefer to exchange their Liberty for safety and therefore deserve neither.

Now I wonder whom said that?

 

[geauxtohell]

Yeah. The teabaggers frequently say that. The problem is, most of them can't really articulate what it's about either.

Given your previously-demonstrated lack of understanding of the TEA Party, this claim is suspect.

When you line up the dots, it's basically a bunch of conservatives that are pissed off about the '08 election and stole one of Ron Paul's gimmicks. They've been facilitated by PAC and special interest groups to try and create the appearance of being grass roots.

Not really, but I'm sure it comforts you to think so.

Where are you getting your "information"?

My own research. I had the links in my sig for a long time, but removed them. At any rate, all the polling data shows that the teabaggers are generally white, upper-middle class, self identified conservatives.

As such, I doubt their impact will be any more significant than in any other election. These are not swing voters.

As always, independents (true independents) will decide this election.

It is amusing to watch the teabaggers saunter around in fantasy land though.

 

[geauxtohell]

No. It's "Get an education, get a good job, and take care of yourself and your family." However, that's not an on-the-spot fix. It requires foresight and planning.

And lots of hard work.

Indeed. It's so much easier to whine that the government should take money away from other people and fix your problems.

Or to whine that the government is responsible for all your problems as opposed to taking personal responsibility for your own failings.

 

[daveman]

Healthcare is an individual responsibility not a right. Nor has it ever been a right.

It is the right of the individual to expect non interference from Government.

Got it ace?

Citizenship comes with responsibility. Some people prefer to be subjects.

Exactly. Some prefer to exchange their Liberty for safety and therefore deserve neither.

Now I wonder whom said that?

Wasn't some pansy leftist.

 

[daveman]

Yeah. The teabaggers frequently say that. The problem is, most of them can't really articulate what it's about either.

Given your previously-demonstrated lack of understanding of the TEA Party, this claim is suspect.

When you line up the dots, it's basically a bunch of conservatives that are pissed off about the '08 election and stole one of Ron Paul's gimmicks. They've been facilitated by PAC and special interest groups to try and create the appearance of being grass roots.

Not really, but I'm sure it comforts you to think so.

Where are you getting your "information"?

My own research. I had the links in my sig for a long time, but removed them. At any rate, all the polling data shows that the teabaggers are generally white, upper-middle class, self identified conservatives.

As such, I doubt their impact will be any more significant than in any other election. These are not swing voters.

As always, independents (true independents) will decide this election.

It is amusing to watch the teabaggers saunter around in fantasy land though.

Speaking of polls, have you seen the ones showing a rapidly growing dissatisfaction with Democrats and what they're doing to the country? And speaking of fantasies, have you seen the people saying it doesn't matter?

 

[Oddball]

Or to whine that the government is responsible for all your problems as opposed to taking personal responsibility for your own failings.

Well, when gubmint breaks you leg then hands you a crutch while condescendingly patting you on your back and telling you how lucky you are to have them there to give you the crutch, I can see where somebody would be a bit put off by the broken leg.

 

[The T]

Citizenship comes with responsibility. Some people prefer to be subjects.

Exactly. Some prefer to exchange their Liberty for safety and therefore deserve neither.

Now I wonder whom said that?

Wasn't some pansy leftist.

Indeed sir.

 

[The T]

And lots of hard work.

Indeed. It's so much easier to whine that the government should take money away from other people and fix your problems.

Or to whine that the government is responsible for all your problems as opposed to taking personal responsibility for your own failings.

Individuals are responsible for themselves. Government by their do-gooder intent create more problems than they solve...and that is stepping on the Liberty of us that take and share responsibility for the relatively few that are the loudest whiners and refuse to accept the same responsibility.

Got it ace?

 

[daveman]

And lots of hard work.

Indeed. It's so much easier to whine that the government should take money away from other people and fix your problems.

Or to whine that the government is responsible for all your problems as opposed to taking personal responsibility for your own failings.

If you've seen the research, you know that TEA Party members are better educated and more successful than the average American. So what failings were you talking about?