The History of The GOP Since 1980....In One Paragraph.....

[The5thHorseman]

Like other big players in Republican politics, the Club appears to have concluded that politicians whose only skill is setting fires, or pouring gasoline on those set by others, can be useful allies. “That’s sort of their strategy — that the prairie fire is going to help us because we’re going to burn down some things we want to burn down, or the smoke’s going to confuse enough that we can get some things done,” said Bob Inglis, a former Republican congressman from South Carolina. “But it’s just such a dangerous strategy. Because you cannot control where the prairie fire is going.”

How the Culture War Co-Opted a Free-Market Zealot https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-07-26/how-maga-co-opted-club-for-growth-a-free-market-conservative-group


This is the problem with courting Stupid....at first they are your marks, but your dependence will lead to your subservience......and Trump, Boebert, and Greene.

 

[occupied]

It's exceptionally rare to lure a right winger into a policy discussion these days. They live in a post-policy political environment where somehow it's better to deal with problems without the slightest consideration of unintended consequences.

 

[Couchpotato]

It's exceptionally rare to lure a right winger into a policy discussion these days. They live in a post-policy political environment where somehow it's better to deal with problems without the slightest consideration of unintended consequences.

Which policy debates are you trying to have with anyone of any political persuasion on this board?

 

[The5thHorseman]

Which policy debates are you trying to have with anyone of any political persuasion on this board?

Pick any...

 

[Couchpotato]

Pick any...

Your contention that you can't have a policy discussion not mine. You cant name one?

 

[occupied]

Which policy debates are you trying to have with anyone of any political persuasion on this board?

I'm not really trying anymore. I put in my two cents on a topic and then move on not expecting much more than yet another non sequitur accusation of pedophilia.

 

[Couchpotato]

I'm not really trying anymore. I put in my two cents on a topic and then move on not expecting much more than yet another non sequitur accusation of pedophilia.

SO which policy topic are you trying to discuss?

 

[The5thHorseman]

Your contention that you can't have a policy discussion not mine. You cant name one?

Any topic on economic or fiscal policy..

Inflation, oil prices, employment, federal spending....

Any topic involving the troubles surrounding the current leader for the GOP nomination in 24.

Seriously, any topic with a factual, or objectively measurable component.

 

[Couchpotato]

Any topic on economic or fiscal policy..


Inflation, oil prices, employment, federal spending....

Ok so pick one. State your case for the policy you think should be enacted.

Any topic involving the troubles surrounding the current leader for the GOP nomination in 24.

That's not a policy topic.

Seriously, any topic with a factual, or objectively measurable component.

See above.

 

[occupied]

SO which policy topic are you trying to discuss?

I'm not trying to have a discussion on anything in particular. I join discussions that interest me but I don't really post a lot of topics. Just nostalgic for the olden days when republicans could at least explain themselves.

 

[The5thHorseman]

Ok so pick one. State your case for the policy you think should be enacted.



That's not a policy topic.



See above.

Fiscal, for example.

I can't get a MAGAt to acknowledge

a) that spending and the deficit have FALLEN under Biden

b) the fundamentals of the federal budget process

c) the WH Budget request for FY2021.


I have tried...

Forget "growth rates of spending per presidential terms"...

 

[bripat9643]

It's exceptionally rare to lure a right winger into a policy discussion these days. They live in a post-policy political environment where somehow it's better to deal with problems without the slightest consideration of unintended consequences.

ROFL!

Progs are such dumbass, and they are so arrogant about it!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Fiscal, for example.

I can't get a MAGAt to acknowledge

a) that spending and the deficit have FALLEN under Biden

b) the fundamentals of the federal budget process

c) the WH Budget request for FY2021.


I have tried...

Forget "growth rates of spending per presidential terms"...

a) that spending and the deficit have FALLEN under Biden

Which areas have seen reduced spending? Be specific.

 

[bripat9643]

a) that spending and the deficit have FALLEN under Biden

Which areas have seen reduced spending? Be specific.

The deficit has fallen since the Trump administrations only because the covid spending ended. It has nothing to do with Biden.

 

[The5thHorseman]

a) that spending and the deficit have FALLEN under Biden

Which areas have seen reduced spending? Be specific.

No, Toddster..

The way we're gonna do this is YOU are going to post YOUR facts (with sources) saying differently.

Federal Budget data is readily available.

 

[Couchpotato]

Fiscal, for example.

I can't get a MAGAt to acknowledge

a) that spending and the deficit have FALLEN under Biden

Are people really disagreeing with the fact that the deficit dropped or the reason it happened?

If you believe it's because Biden is some fiscal wizard or fiscal conservative who cut government spending to reduce it then you're living in fantasy land. All that happened was the pandemic ended and the unprecedented spending that went with it went away as well so he deficit fell. That didn't happen because of some policy difference between the left and the right. Do you believe that had Biden won the 2016 election that spending we did on COVID would have been significantly less?

b) the fundamentals of the federal budget process.

They are disagreeing with how the federal budget process works? What does that have to do with policy?

c) the WH Budget request for FY2021.

What about it?

I have tried...

Forget "growth rates of spending per presidential terms"...

 

[The5thHorseman]

The deficit has fallen since the Trump administrations only because the covid spending ended. It has nothing to do with Biden.

Bripat,

Post the FY 2017 and FY 2019 deficits.

 

[The5thHorseman]

Are people really disagreeing with the fact that the deficit dropped or the reason it happened?

If you believe it's because Biden is some fiscal wizard or fiscal conservative who cut government spending to reduce it then you're living in fantasy land. All that happened was the pandemic ended and the unprecedented spending that went with it went away as well so he deficit fell. That didn't happen because of some policy difference between the left and the right. Do you believe that had Biden won the 2016 election that spending we did on COVID would have been significantly less?



They are disagreeing with how the federal budget process works? What does that have to do with policy?


What about it?

Why are you trying to qualify the objective facts?

 

[The5thHorseman]

Are people really disagreeing with the fact that the deficit dropped or the reason it happened?

If you believe it's because Biden is some fiscal wizard or fiscal conservative who cut government spending to reduce it then you're living in fantasy land. All that happened was the pandemic ended and the unprecedented spending that went with it went away as well so he deficit fell. That didn't happen because of some policy difference between the left and the right. Do you believe that had Biden won the 2016 election that spending we did on COVID would have been significantly less?



They are disagreeing with how the federal budget process works? What does that have to do with policy?


What about it?

They are disagreeing with how the federal budget process works?

Because there is only one process.


This is a fact.

 

[Couchpotato]

Why are you trying to qualify the objective facts?

Because the reason something happens is rather important isn't it?