The heresy of heresies was common sense.

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    George Orwell “1984”:

    "In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable what then?"

    As far as I am concerned, this quote from Orwell could be about the Bush Administration. The War in Iraq...tax cuts...Hurricane Katrina...it goes on and on. I do not see any common sense in the leaders of our government. That is why the Democrats will win big in 2006 and 2008. We need a change...damn it... :bang3:
     
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    Tax cuts are a winning issue. Who wants their taxes raised?

    Katrina, there is enough blame to go around for everyone. Who had authority over these busses?
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    A lossing issue for everyone so it won't be politicized much this election.

    Iraq will be politicized this election cycle and we see which side comes out on top.
     
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    What are you talking about? all of those moves were common sense to a fault.

    How do you expand the economy? By putting more money in the hands of the people. Tax cuts. common sense. People shouldnt have to pay a third of their yearly income to the government. Heck God doesnt even ask that much and atleast God's cut is voluntary.

    The war in iraq - Common sense on so many levels. First, 911. it demanded a change to our foreign policy against terrorism. Instead of waiting for terrorists to attack us we need to go out and stop them and the regimes that support them.

    That is why we invaded Aghanistan. That is also why we invaded Iraq. Saddam supported terrorism. There is no dispute on that. We either had two choices. 1) we could do nothing, wait for Terrorist to attack again and of course die. 2) we could go out and stop them. Take the war to them. Which response makes more sense?

    Second, strategically Iraq is probably the best place we could have gone to next. We now have Iran squeezed between Aghanistan and Iraq. We have Syria squeezed between Iraq and Israel. We could easily strike against any government that supports terror a heck of alot better.

    In addition to the clear military strategery to Iraq, we have the added fact that establishing a Free government in the center of the Middle East will be key to bringing freedom to the entire reach. People will see the power of freedom and their neighbors will yearn for it themselves.

    What exactly isn't common sense about this? Heck we should have taken out Saddam back in 91. It would have been alot more humane than leaving those people under his control for so long.

    As for Hurricane Katrina, where was the common sense of the people who refused to leave? The federal government cant force you to leave. In fact, it has no power to. The federal government can't do anything unless the state officials ask for federal assistance. And in all honestly im not sure they should be constitutionally allowed to do that since the constitution does not authorize the federal government to do any sort of federal relief except maybe tax relief.

    I want to know where the common sense is in thinking it an intelligent idea to penalize people for working harder and making more money by taking it away from them. I want to know where the common sense is in thinking that if we don't do anything the terrorists will go away. I want to know where the common sense is in undermining national security at every turn.
     
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    This reply will be brief, because I am in a hurry. You sound like someone who believes in God, so I would have to assume that He (or She) is not on the side of the GOP. In my opinion, their leadership is out of touch with the will of the people, and they are completely corrupt.

    Whether you like it or not, the Democrats represent what the MAJORITY of Americans believes: pro choice, pro death penalty, pro civil unions for gays, anti-Iraq War, etc. The Republicans represent that the MINORITY of Americans believe. Yes, in some areas they are the clear majority, but overall they are the MINORITY.

    More later... :rock:
     
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    :bsflag: :wtf: :dunno:
     
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    Put down the..... :alco: :bong420:
     
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    Ahhhh. So THAT'S why they keep losing elections.
     
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    Hmmmm really, lets look at a county by county result of the 2004 Presidential election.

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    As far as you're concerned, then, two and two DO make five - for you have managed to completely miss the point of "1984". Try reading it with your head out of your ass.
     
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    I am going to be laughing all the way to the bank, as they say, in 2006 and 2008. That map is going to change. Its going to be mostly blue. The Democrats will retake the Congress in 2006 and the presidency in 2008. That is a fact and you Red's cannot change that. Its time for a change...

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