The hard cold truth of modern style racism

Morgan Freeman is playing the president in an upcoming movie, Angel has Fallen. He get saved by a white guy though, Gerard Butler. Hollywood is trying to compensate.


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Jamie Foxx was already saved by Channing Tatum.

And in 1998, Morgan played President Beck in Deep Impact. He also made a better God than George Burns, IMO.


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the idea that so-called "people of color" should unite and vote against a candidate because he's white is pretty racist.

Yawn!

The 24 states with all white supreme courts IS racist.

Lumping asians, blacks, hispanics and native americans all in a big group that is supposedly the antithesis of white males is racist and sexist. And stupid.
 
As of this very second, 24 states have all white supreme courts. 18 state supreme courts have NEVER had a non white justice. In 2019. Yet in places like this people want to argue about how things are all in the past, or some other silly auto response some whites have when people of color speak truth.

State Supreme Courts Don’t Reflect the Diversity of the Communities They Serve
A new Brennan Center report details vast racial and gender disparities on state supreme courts around the country.
Alicia Bannon, Laila Robbins
July 23, 2019

We spent a year studying the gender and racial makeup of state supreme courts, which are typically the final arbiters on state law. Our new report, State Supreme Court Diversity, paints a bleak picture of the demographic makeup of these powerful courts. It also points to judicial elections as a key inflection point for addressing the racial disparities we found.

Currently, white men are dramatically overrepresented on state supreme court benches. Though white men make up less than a third of the population, they hold a majority of seats on state supreme courts. Meanwhile, though people of color make up nearly 40 percent of the U.S. population, they hold only 15 percent of state supreme court seats.

Twenty-four states currently have an all-white supreme court bench. This includes eight states in which people of color are at least a quarter of the state’s general population. And in states that have at least one justice of color, there are substantial gaps between the diversity in a state’s general population and its high court bench: the percentage of people of color on the bench is higher than their representation in the state’s population in only five states.

Eighteen states have never had a Black justice on their state supreme court. And 13 states have not seated a single justice of color since at least 1960, the earliest year for which we had comprehensive data.

Elections have rarely been a path to the bench for people of color. Since 1960, only 17 justices of color have first reached the bench through an election, comprising 4 percent of initially elected justices. Comparatively, 141 justices of color were initially appointed to the bench since 1960, comprising 12 percent of all initially appointed justices.

Although candidates of color were more likely to have prior judicial experience as challengers to incumbents or as candidates for open seats, they won less often than their white counterparts.

State Supreme Courts Don’t Reflect the Diversity of the Communities They Serve
Being a judge is based on merit, not color.

Bullshit. Read this, then be quiet.

Elections have rarely been a path to the bench for people of color. Since 1960, only 17 justices of color have first reached the bench through an election, comprising 4 percent of initially elected justices. Comparatively, 141 justices of color were initially appointed to the bench since 1960, comprising 12 percent of all initially appointed justices.

Although candidates of color were more likely to have prior judicial experience as challengers to incumbents or as candidates for open seats, they won less often than their white counterparts.
What race baiter said that? Source please.

Learn to read. Then you would know.
Learn to source what you post. The rules are the same for you.
 
Eye. Cue. (Get it?)

African Americans have an AVERAGE IQ of 85-90. If one assumes (quite reasonably, I should think) that a competent judge should have an IQ of 130 or better, that threshold means that only 5% of WHITE PEOPLE have the intellectual firepower to be a competent judge, but for African Americans, the 130 threshold is THREE standard deviations above the mean,. This means that only approximately three-tenths of one percent of African Americans are "qualified" to be judges - on the same basis as a "white person" would be qualified.

So to expect African Americans to be judges (State Supreme Courts or otherwise) in the same proportion as their gross numbers in the general population is statistical folly.

And one must also consider the options that are available to an African American of superior intellect. How many of them have the time and resources to spend four years in college, three years in law school, etc., etc., etc. Better they should be entrepreneurs, engineers, managers, and even EDUCATORS.

To suppose, or to claim that it is RACISM that explains the low numbers of African American state Supreme Court judges, is slanderous bullshit, or founded in incredible ignorance.

Why not just be honest and blame it on DONALD TRUMP???!!!!
 
As of this very second, 24 states have all white supreme courts. 18 state supreme courts have NEVER had a non white justice. In 2019. Yet in places like this people want to argue about how things are all in the past, or some other silly auto response some whites have when people of color speak truth.

State Supreme Courts Don’t Reflect the Diversity of the Communities They Serve
A new Brennan Center report details vast racial and gender disparities on state supreme courts around the country.
Alicia Bannon, Laila Robbins
July 23, 2019

We spent a year studying the gender and racial makeup of state supreme courts, which are typically the final arbiters on state law. Our new report, State Supreme Court Diversity, paints a bleak picture of the demographic makeup of these powerful courts. It also points to judicial elections as a key inflection point for addressing the racial disparities we found.

Currently, white men are dramatically overrepresented on state supreme court benches. Though white men make up less than a third of the population, they hold a majority of seats on state supreme courts. Meanwhile, though people of color make up nearly 40 percent of the U.S. population, they hold only 15 percent of state supreme court seats.

Twenty-four states currently have an all-white supreme court bench. This includes eight states in which people of color are at least a quarter of the state’s general population. And in states that have at least one justice of color, there are substantial gaps between the diversity in a state’s general population and its high court bench: the percentage of people of color on the bench is higher than their representation in the state’s population in only five states.

Eighteen states have never had a Black justice on their state supreme court. And 13 states have not seated a single justice of color since at least 1960, the earliest year for which we had comprehensive data.

Elections have rarely been a path to the bench for people of color. Since 1960, only 17 justices of color have first reached the bench through an election, comprising 4 percent of initially elected justices. Comparatively, 141 justices of color were initially appointed to the bench since 1960, comprising 12 percent of all initially appointed justices.

Although candidates of color were more likely to have prior judicial experience as challengers to incumbents or as candidates for open seats, they won less often than their white counterparts.

State Supreme Courts Don’t Reflect the Diversity of the Communities They Serve
Being a judge is based on merit, not color.
Actually no. Often merit has little to do with it.
 
As of this very second, 24 states have all white supreme courts. 18 state supreme courts have NEVER had a non white justice. In 2019. Yet in places like this people want to argue about how things are all in the past, or some other silly auto response some whites have when people of color speak truth.

State Supreme Courts Don’t Reflect the Diversity of the Communities They Serve
A new Brennan Center report details vast racial and gender disparities on state supreme courts around the country.
Alicia Bannon, Laila Robbins
July 23, 2019

We spent a year studying the gender and racial makeup of state supreme courts, which are typically the final arbiters on state law. Our new report, State Supreme Court Diversity, paints a bleak picture of the demographic makeup of these powerful courts. It also points to judicial elections as a key inflection point for addressing the racial disparities we found.

Currently, white men are dramatically overrepresented on state supreme court benches. Though white men make up less than a third of the population, they hold a majority of seats on state supreme courts. Meanwhile, though people of color make up nearly 40 percent of the U.S. population, they hold only 15 percent of state supreme court seats.

Twenty-four states currently have an all-white supreme court bench. This includes eight states in which people of color are at least a quarter of the state’s general population. And in states that have at least one justice of color, there are substantial gaps between the diversity in a state’s general population and its high court bench: the percentage of people of color on the bench is higher than their representation in the state’s population in only five states.

Eighteen states have never had a Black justice on their state supreme court. And 13 states have not seated a single justice of color since at least 1960, the earliest year for which we had comprehensive data.

Elections have rarely been a path to the bench for people of color. Since 1960, only 17 justices of color have first reached the bench through an election, comprising 4 percent of initially elected justices. Comparatively, 141 justices of color were initially appointed to the bench since 1960, comprising 12 percent of all initially appointed justices.

Although candidates of color were more likely to have prior judicial experience as challengers to incumbents or as candidates for open seats, they won less often than their white counterparts.

State Supreme Courts Don’t Reflect the Diversity of the Communities They Serve
Being a judge is based on merit, not color.
Actually no. Often merit has little to do with it.
Then what does?
 
As of this very second, 24 states have all white supreme courts. 18 state supreme courts have NEVER had a non white justice. In 2019. Yet in places like this people want to argue about how things are all in the past, or some other silly auto response some whites have when people of color speak truth.

State Supreme Courts Don’t Reflect the Diversity of the Communities They Serve
A new Brennan Center report details vast racial and gender disparities on state supreme courts around the country.
Alicia Bannon, Laila Robbins
July 23, 2019

We spent a year studying the gender and racial makeup of state supreme courts, which are typically the final arbiters on state law. Our new report, State Supreme Court Diversity, paints a bleak picture of the demographic makeup of these powerful courts. It also points to judicial elections as a key inflection point for addressing the racial disparities we found.

Currently, white men are dramatically overrepresented on state supreme court benches. Though white men make up less than a third of the population, they hold a majority of seats on state supreme courts. Meanwhile, though people of color make up nearly 40 percent of the U.S. population, they hold only 15 percent of state supreme court seats.

Twenty-four states currently have an all-white supreme court bench. This includes eight states in which people of color are at least a quarter of the state’s general population. And in states that have at least one justice of color, there are substantial gaps between the diversity in a state’s general population and its high court bench: the percentage of people of color on the bench is higher than their representation in the state’s population in only five states.

Eighteen states have never had a Black justice on their state supreme court. And 13 states have not seated a single justice of color since at least 1960, the earliest year for which we had comprehensive data.

Elections have rarely been a path to the bench for people of color. Since 1960, only 17 justices of color have first reached the bench through an election, comprising 4 percent of initially elected justices. Comparatively, 141 justices of color were initially appointed to the bench since 1960, comprising 12 percent of all initially appointed justices.

Although candidates of color were more likely to have prior judicial experience as challengers to incumbents or as candidates for open seats, they won less often than their white counterparts.

State Supreme Courts Don’t Reflect the Diversity of the Communities They Serve
Being a judge is based on merit, not color.

Bullshit. Read this, then be quiet.

Elections have rarely been a path to the bench for people of color. Since 1960, only 17 justices of color have first reached the bench through an election, comprising 4 percent of initially elected justices. Comparatively, 141 justices of color were initially appointed to the bench since 1960, comprising 12 percent of all initially appointed justices.

Although candidates of color were more likely to have prior judicial experience as challengers to incumbents or as candidates for open seats, they won less often than their white counterparts.
What race baiter said that? Source please.

Brennan Center for Justice. If you think their research is wrong, disprove it.
 
As of this very second, 24 states have all white supreme courts. 18 state supreme courts have NEVER had a non white justice. In 2019. Yet in places like this people want to argue about how things are all in the past, or some other silly auto response some whites have when people of color speak truth.

State Supreme Courts Don’t Reflect the Diversity of the Communities They Serve
A new Brennan Center report details vast racial and gender disparities on state supreme courts around the country.
Alicia Bannon, Laila Robbins
July 23, 2019

We spent a year studying the gender and racial makeup of state supreme courts, which are typically the final arbiters on state law. Our new report, State Supreme Court Diversity, paints a bleak picture of the demographic makeup of these powerful courts. It also points to judicial elections as a key inflection point for addressing the racial disparities we found.

Currently, white men are dramatically overrepresented on state supreme court benches. Though white men make up less than a third of the population, they hold a majority of seats on state supreme courts. Meanwhile, though people of color make up nearly 40 percent of the U.S. population, they hold only 15 percent of state supreme court seats.

Twenty-four states currently have an all-white supreme court bench. This includes eight states in which people of color are at least a quarter of the state’s general population. And in states that have at least one justice of color, there are substantial gaps between the diversity in a state’s general population and its high court bench: the percentage of people of color on the bench is higher than their representation in the state’s population in only five states.

Eighteen states have never had a Black justice on their state supreme court. And 13 states have not seated a single justice of color since at least 1960, the earliest year for which we had comprehensive data.

Elections have rarely been a path to the bench for people of color. Since 1960, only 17 justices of color have first reached the bench through an election, comprising 4 percent of initially elected justices. Comparatively, 141 justices of color were initially appointed to the bench since 1960, comprising 12 percent of all initially appointed justices.

Although candidates of color were more likely to have prior judicial experience as challengers to incumbents or as candidates for open seats, they won less often than their white counterparts.

State Supreme Courts Don’t Reflect the Diversity of the Communities They Serve
Being a judge is based on merit, not color.
Actually no. Often merit has little to do with it.
Then what does?
It is highly variable, depending on where and what level. Some are selected, some are appointed with political patronage in mind, some are talented some are incompetent.
 
As of this very second, 24 states have all white supreme courts. 18 state supreme courts have NEVER had a non white justice. In 2019. Yet in places like this people want to argue about how things are all in the past, or some other silly auto response some whites have when people of color speak truth.

State Supreme Courts Don’t Reflect the Diversity of the Communities They Serve
A new Brennan Center report details vast racial and gender disparities on state supreme courts around the country.
Alicia Bannon, Laila Robbins
July 23, 2019

We spent a year studying the gender and racial makeup of state supreme courts, which are typically the final arbiters on state law. Our new report, State Supreme Court Diversity, paints a bleak picture of the demographic makeup of these powerful courts. It also points to judicial elections as a key inflection point for addressing the racial disparities we found.

Currently, white men are dramatically overrepresented on state supreme court benches. Though white men make up less than a third of the population, they hold a majority of seats on state supreme courts. Meanwhile, though people of color make up nearly 40 percent of the U.S. population, they hold only 15 percent of state supreme court seats.

Twenty-four states currently have an all-white supreme court bench. This includes eight states in which people of color are at least a quarter of the state’s general population. And in states that have at least one justice of color, there are substantial gaps between the diversity in a state’s general population and its high court bench: the percentage of people of color on the bench is higher than their representation in the state’s population in only five states.

Eighteen states have never had a Black justice on their state supreme court. And 13 states have not seated a single justice of color since at least 1960, the earliest year for which we had comprehensive data.

Elections have rarely been a path to the bench for people of color. Since 1960, only 17 justices of color have first reached the bench through an election, comprising 4 percent of initially elected justices. Comparatively, 141 justices of color were initially appointed to the bench since 1960, comprising 12 percent of all initially appointed justices.

Although candidates of color were more likely to have prior judicial experience as challengers to incumbents or as candidates for open seats, they won less often than their white counterparts.

State Supreme Courts Don’t Reflect the Diversity of the Communities They Serve
Being a judge is based on merit, not color.
Actually no. Often merit has little to do with it.
Then what does?
It is highly variable, depending on where and what level. Some are selected, some are appointed with political patronage in mind, some are talented some are incompetent.
Then it is not racism?
 
As of this very second, 24 states have all white supreme courts. 18 state supreme courts have NEVER had a non white justice. In 2019. Yet in places like this people want to argue about how things are all in the past, or some other silly auto response some whites have when people of color speak truth.

State Supreme Courts Don’t Reflect the Diversity of the Communities They Serve
A new Brennan Center report details vast racial and gender disparities on state supreme courts around the country.
Alicia Bannon, Laila Robbins
July 23, 2019

We spent a year studying the gender and racial makeup of state supreme courts, which are typically the final arbiters on state law. Our new report, State Supreme Court Diversity, paints a bleak picture of the demographic makeup of these powerful courts. It also points to judicial elections as a key inflection point for addressing the racial disparities we found.

Currently, white men are dramatically overrepresented on state supreme court benches. Though white men make up less than a third of the population, they hold a majority of seats on state supreme courts. Meanwhile, though people of color make up nearly 40 percent of the U.S. population, they hold only 15 percent of state supreme court seats.

Twenty-four states currently have an all-white supreme court bench. This includes eight states in which people of color are at least a quarter of the state’s general population. And in states that have at least one justice of color, there are substantial gaps between the diversity in a state’s general population and its high court bench: the percentage of people of color on the bench is higher than their representation in the state’s population in only five states.

Eighteen states have never had a Black justice on their state supreme court. And 13 states have not seated a single justice of color since at least 1960, the earliest year for which we had comprehensive data.

Elections have rarely been a path to the bench for people of color. Since 1960, only 17 justices of color have first reached the bench through an election, comprising 4 percent of initially elected justices. Comparatively, 141 justices of color were initially appointed to the bench since 1960, comprising 12 percent of all initially appointed justices.

Although candidates of color were more likely to have prior judicial experience as challengers to incumbents or as candidates for open seats, they won less often than their white counterparts.

State Supreme Courts Don’t Reflect the Diversity of the Communities They Serve
Being a judge is based on merit, not color.
Actually no. Often merit has little to do with it.
Then what does?
It is highly variable, depending on where and what level. Some are selected, some are appointed with political patronage in mind, some are talented some are incompetent.
Then it is not racism?

It can be. Lots of different reasons.
 
Eye. Cue. (Get it?)

African Americans have an AVERAGE IQ of 85-90. If one assumes (quite reasonably, I should think) that a competent judge should have an IQ of 130 or better, that threshold means that only 5% of WHITE PEOPLE have the intellectual firepower to be a competent judge, but for African Americans, the 130 threshold is THREE standard deviations above the mean,. This means that only approximately three-tenths of one percent of African Americans are "qualified" to be judges - on the same basis as a "white person" would be qualified.

So to expect African Americans to be judges (State Supreme Courts or otherwise) in the same proportion as their gross numbers in the general population is statistical folly.

And one must also consider the options that are available to an African American of superior intellect. How many of them have the time and resources to spend four years in college, three years in law school, etc., etc., etc. Better they should be entrepreneurs, engineers, managers, and even EDUCATORS.

To suppose, or to claim that it is RACISM that explains the low numbers of African American state Supreme Court judges, is slanderous bullshit, or founded in incredible ignorance.

Why not just be honest and blame it on DONALD TRUMP???!!!!


130 sounds very high.

I strongly suspect there are plenty of white judges with IQs well below that.


Just saying.


BUT, even saying that, your general point as a factor to explain the relative lack of proportionality, seems valid.
 
Eye. Cue. (Get it?)

African Americans have an AVERAGE IQ of 85-90. If one assumes (quite reasonably, I should think) that a competent judge should have an IQ of 130 or better, that threshold means that only 5% of WHITE PEOPLE have the intellectual firepower to be a competent judge, but for African Americans, the 130 threshold is THREE standard deviations above the mean,. This means that only approximately three-tenths of one percent of African Americans are "qualified" to be judges - on the same basis as a "white person" would be qualified.

So to expect African Americans to be judges (State Supreme Courts or otherwise) in the same proportion as their gross numbers in the general population is statistical folly.

And one must also consider the options that are available to an African American of superior intellect. How many of them have the time and resources to spend four years in college, three years in law school, etc., etc., etc. Better they should be entrepreneurs, engineers, managers, and even EDUCATORS.

To suppose, or to claim that it is RACISM that explains the low numbers of African American state Supreme Court judges, is slanderous bullshit, or founded in incredible ignorance.

Why not just be honest and blame it on DONALD TRUMP???!!!!


130 sounds very high.

I strongly suspect there are plenty of white judges with IQs well below that.


Just saying.


BUT, even saying that, your general point as a factor to explain the relative lack of proportionality, seems valid.

It does? Only if you buy into the unscientific way race and IQ is handled.

Stop Talking About Race and IQ. Take It From Someone Who Did.
 
Eye. Cue. (Get it?)

African Americans have an AVERAGE IQ of 85-90. If one assumes (quite reasonably, I should think) that a competent judge should have an IQ of 130 or better, that threshold means that only 5% of WHITE PEOPLE have the intellectual firepower to be a competent judge, but for African Americans, the 130 threshold is THREE standard deviations above the mean,. This means that only approximately three-tenths of one percent of African Americans are "qualified" to be judges - on the same basis as a "white person" would be qualified.

So to expect African Americans to be judges (State Supreme Courts or otherwise) in the same proportion as their gross numbers in the general population is statistical folly.

And one must also consider the options that are available to an African American of superior intellect. How many of them have the time and resources to spend four years in college, three years in law school, etc., etc., etc. Better they should be entrepreneurs, engineers, managers, and even EDUCATORS.

To suppose, or to claim that it is RACISM that explains the low numbers of African American state Supreme Court judges, is slanderous bullshit, or founded in incredible ignorance.

Why not just be honest and blame it on DONALD TRUMP???!!!!


130 sounds very high.

I strongly suspect there are plenty of white judges with IQs well below that.


Just saying.


BUT, even saying that, your general point as a factor to explain the relative lack of proportionality, seems valid.

It does? Only if you buy into the unscientific way race and IQ is handled.

Stop Talking About Race and IQ. Take It From Someone Who Did.


The conclusion of your link.


"It’s one thing to theorize about race and genes to assist in disease prevention, diagnosis, or treatment, as Reich has done. But before you seize on his essay to explain racial gaps in employment, ask yourself: Given the dubiousness of linking racial genetics to IQ, what would my words accomplish? Would they contribute to prejudice? Would they be used to blame communities for their own poverty? Would I be provoking thought, or would I be offering whites an excuse not to think about the social and economic causes of inequality?"



The point is to counter the assumption by people like IM2, that any racial discrepancy can only be explained by white racism.

That does NOT contribute to prejudice, it fights it.

That does not blame a community for it's poverty. IQ is not a choice.

Yes, this would be provoking thought. It fights back against the thought free ASSUMPTION by people like IM2, who are completely happy to just blame white people as a group and as individuals.


The fact that the linked article, makes the assumption that whites are required to think about the social and economic causes of inequality, is a problem in itself, as though being WHITE puts additional responsibility on whites,


is fucking racist.
 
Eye. Cue. (Get it?)

African Americans have an AVERAGE IQ of 85-90.
[snipped]
And one must also consider the options that are available to an African American of superior intellect. How many of them have the time and resources to spend four years in college, three years in law school, etc., etc., etc. Better they should be entrepreneurs, engineers, managers, and even EDUCATORS.
For a long time girls were also steered away from the STEM fields - math & science stuff is waaay too hard for females. Better they should be housewives, waitresses, secretaries, hairdressers etc<rolling eyes>

In other words, your comment is no less condescending although I think I understand where you're coming from.
 
Lets stop denying the obvious here. 18 states have never had a person of color on their state supreme court. To think there has not been one person of color that on merit did not qualify EVER is straight up insane.
 
As of this very second, 24 states have all white supreme courts. 18 state supreme courts have NEVER had a non white justice. In 2019. Yet in places like this people want to argue about how things are all in the past, or some other silly auto response some whites have when people of color speak truth.

State Supreme Courts Don’t Reflect the Diversity of the Communities They Serve
A new Brennan Center report details vast racial and gender disparities on state supreme courts around the country.
Alicia Bannon, Laila Robbins
July 23, 2019

We spent a year studying the gender and racial makeup of state supreme courts, which are typically the final arbiters on state law. Our new report, State Supreme Court Diversity, paints a bleak picture of the demographic makeup of these powerful courts. It also points to judicial elections as a key inflection point for addressing the racial disparities we found.

Currently, white men are dramatically overrepresented on state supreme court benches. Though white men make up less than a third of the population, they hold a majority of seats on state supreme courts. Meanwhile, though people of color make up nearly 40 percent of the U.S. population, they hold only 15 percent of state supreme court seats.

Twenty-four states currently have an all-white supreme court bench. This includes eight states in which people of color are at least a quarter of the state’s general population. And in states that have at least one justice of color, there are substantial gaps between the diversity in a state’s general population and its high court bench: the percentage of people of color on the bench is higher than their representation in the state’s population in only five states.

Eighteen states have never had a Black justice on their state supreme court. And 13 states have not seated a single justice of color since at least 1960, the earliest year for which we had comprehensive data.

Elections have rarely been a path to the bench for people of color. Since 1960, only 17 justices of color have first reached the bench through an election, comprising 4 percent of initially elected justices. Comparatively, 141 justices of color were initially appointed to the bench since 1960, comprising 12 percent of all initially appointed justices.

Although candidates of color were more likely to have prior judicial experience as challengers to incumbents or as candidates for open seats, they won less often than their white counterparts.

State Supreme Courts Don’t Reflect the Diversity of the Communities They Serve
There is nothing keeping anybody from applying for any position for any career in this country
 
Lets stop denying the obvious here. 18 states have never had a person of color on their state supreme court. To think there has not been one person of color that on merit did not qualify EVER is straight up insane.



Qualified? Sure. Less attractive to the voters, than their opponents? That is another question.


Your assumption of racism, is noted and dismissed.
 
Lets stop denying the obvious here. 18 states have never had a person of color on their state supreme court. To think there has not been one person of color that on merit did not qualify EVER is straight up insane.
Please provide stats showing where any non white qualified person applied but was turned down.
 

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