The GOP's Gary Johnson quandry

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    The GOP's Gary Johnson quandary - POLITICO.com

    If the numbers remain consistent it looks like Johnson could have an effect in Colorado and Arizona. New Mexico was going to Obama regardless.
     
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    Looks like the days of Republicans pretending to be libertarians (and getting away with it) are coming to a close.
     
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    Kind of like Barry's presidential days of on the job training coming to a close on January 20 next year.
     
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    Lets try to forget about party affiliation. Lets elect people that have read and understood the constitution. Also it would be help that they agree with it. We also need people who obey they laws they pass. ; That eliminte most of the congress and administration current and past.
     
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    It's something that the GOP deals with every four years, from Ron Paul to Harry Browne to Michael Badnarik to Bob Barr, to name a few. There will also be votes going to the Constitution/American Independent candidate. The Democrats will likewise fret over losing votes to the Green Party candidate. Rosanne Barr, a celebrity candidate running for the Green Party nomination, would pose an interesting dynamic in the Presidential race, though she did lose in the California primary (not sure how she's doing overall).

    So in most if not all cases, there will be more than three options. Those in "swing states" will have to make the decision whether to support the main party candidate closer to their political orientation, or vote for a third partry candidate and risk having the main party candidate they would least like win win.

    I'm in a state (California) that will likely vote overwhemingly to Obama, so I can potentially vote for third party candidate out of principle and not worry about losing the election for the major party I'm closer-aligned with.
     
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    The point being that Gary Johnson, as of right now, is pulling a significant number of votes from Mitt Romney in some fairly important states.
     
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    I think the key, and our best hope in my view, is that more and more people are starting to figure out there's not much point in worrying about which major party you're more closely aligned with. As the majors become more and more alike, it becomes apparent their only real function is in defending the status quo.

    From my perspective the best (likely) outcome of this election is that, regardless of which party wins, they do so without a majority of the votes. This would not only increase the chances for real change in the future, it would make it clear that whichever party wins will rule without a genuine mandate.
     
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    Gary Johnson, Republican governor, decides to run as a third party and uses his name recognition to gain a single digit of the vote in some neighboring states.

    Not very bright, but then again, look at his supporters.
     
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    This "not very bright" candidate built a construction company from himself to over 1,000 employees when he sold it 23 years later. NM 2 of 3 vote Democratic He ran as Rep and beat the Dem. They loved Governor Veto so much for all the money he saved taxpayers, that he won again by a wider margin. He managed to climb the tallest peaks on four continents. This frugal millionaire built his own house. He swims 2.4 mi, runs 26.2 mi & bicycles 112 miles, loves skiing which he'll retire to if he doesn't win the presidency.

    He bicycled several hundred miles in NH campaigning. He's at 7% there last I heard.

    He was paragliding when a wing got stuck in a tree & he fell 50 feet. Broken bones: back, rib, knee. Rather than get hooked on opiates or getting an operation, he managed his pain the next 3 years using cannabis. He has publicly advocated re-legalization since 1999, & he now proposes taxing it 100% (est $19/oz), (90% cheaper) which would bring in double digit billions., It has been shown to sometimes be better than pills or operations for 126 medical conditions, cheap health care. End drug war, save $40B/yr + reduced crime.

    Mitt Romney & Barack Obama want many harmless sick people locked up. Both refuse to discuss the #1 request to whitehouse.gov re-legalize cannabis. Romney called it unimportant. 25% of Americans are in chronic pain, think O or R care? Cannabis oil is reported to be curing cancer and other painful & often fatal illnesses. Think O & R care? It was in pharmacies until 1937, when cancer was rare. Now 30% of Americans die from cancer despite us spending the most on health care. Worldwide, 13% die from cancer.

    Gary Johnson is one of the most honest, kindest, & smartest ever to run for the presidency.
    He cares about the 100% equally & can't be bribed. He believes we should get back all of our Constitutional rights & stop spending money we don't have. Is that bad? Best wishes.
     
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    On one hand, one has to wonder what Johnson is thinking. He can't possibly be so naive as to think that he can actually win this, and he must know he's damaging Romney, possibly fatally.

    On the other hand, the ego of professional politicians is limitless, and ego often trumps reason.

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