The Goal Of Any Government Should Be...

[CorvusRexus]

Wrong again! I grew up with a copy of the Constitution with me where ever I went, and read and re-read it repeatedly.
Also, I went to a private school.

Parochial private school?

Let's just see where you draw the line as far as where government intervention begins and ends.

According to your OP there should be brothels next to churches, abortion clinics next to daycare centers and sewage treatment plants next door to where you live, right?

I don't care. As long as the people don't care, I don't see why not. If people wanted a sewage treatment plant by their houses, then I see no problem. Let the people or towns rule themselves small-scale, and simply pool military resources to the national government which in turn uses them to provide for the common defense. Simple as that.

Looking at my posts and yours, I realize I may have not made my point clear enough. The OP was referring to national level governments.

And yes, I went to parochial private schools.

Ah, so you see a purpose to local government once you appreciate the ramifications of not having any.

But you still claim that it is unnecessary at the Federal level.

So let's see what happens without any Federal government regulations.

You build your dream house on a lake with a mountain vista view. You add a small jetty and you sell bait to fishermen and rent out boats to make a living.

Across the state line which just happens to be 1 mile down the road from you a corporation builds a meat byproducts rendering plant that uses coal fired furnaces. Your lake becomes polluted by the stinking effluence from the plant and your mountain view disappears behind a thick smog of coal fumes. Your kids develop asthma and your spouse ends up with cancer. You have zero options because you don't even live in the same state. You can't even sell your "dream home" because no one wants to live there anymore. Your business is ruined and you have zero compensation for your losses.

Bring it up with the local government across State line. Besides, this is a ridiculous hypothetical.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Wrong again! I grew up with a copy of the Constitution with me where ever I went, and read and re-read it repeatedly.
Also, I went to a private school.

Parochial private school?

Let's just see where you draw the line as far as where government intervention begins and ends.

According to your OP there should be brothels next to churches, abortion clinics next to daycare centers and sewage treatment plants next door to where you live, right?

I don't care. As long as the people don't care, I don't see why not. If people wanted a sewage treatment plant by their houses, then I see no problem. Let the people or towns rule themselves small-scale, and simply pool military resources to the national government which in turn uses them to provide for the common defense. Simple as that.

Looking at my posts and yours, I realize I may have not made my point clear enough. The OP was referring to national level governments.

And yes, I went to parochial private schools.

Ah, so you see a purpose to local government once you appreciate the ramifications of not having any.

But you still claim that it is unnecessary at the Federal level.

So let's see what happens without any Federal government regulations.

You build your dream house on a lake with a mountain vista view. You add a small jetty and you sell bait to fishermen and rent out boats to make a living.

Across the state line which just happens to be 1 mile down the road from you a corporation builds a meat byproducts rendering plant that uses coal fired furnaces. Your lake becomes polluted by the stinking effluence from the plant and your mountain view disappears behind a thick smog of coal fumes. Your kids develop asthma and your spouse ends up with cancer. You have zero options because you don't even live in the same state. You can't even sell your "dream home" because no one wants to live there anymore. Your business is ruined and you have zero compensation for your losses.

Bring it up with the local government across State line. Besides, this is a ridiculous hypothetical.

As soon as there is a problem you run to the government to solve it for you.

But that is what life would really be like under your "CorvusRexus Constitution" that you have proposed in your OP.

Only in this instance the "local government across State line" will just tell you that you are not their problem because you are not a resident of their state and they don't have any regulations against pollution because they follow the "CorvusRexus Constitution" which only allows them to "defend law abiding citizens" and you aren't one of them.

In fact you might even be seen as a threat to their own law-abiding citizens and jailed as a trouble maker. You would have zero rights so you would end up in jail without even a trial until you could find a way to bribe the judge and/or one of the prison guards in your "CorvusRexus Constitution" utopia.

Has the penny dropped or do you still need another example to show you just how ridiculous your "CorvusRexus Constitution" would turn out in reality?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Why don't you enlighten us then. What does the constitution say about the roles and goals of government?

To establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity.

 

[Silhouette]

In my opinion, the goal of any government is to protect the law-abiding citizenry it represents...

So you were an F- student when it came to social studies?

As much of an F-student as you are in social tact. No more, no less. If you're going to hurl a scathing insult like that, you just look like a dick.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

In my opinion, the goal of any government is to protect the law-abiding citizenry it represents. Economy can mostly be run by people on their own; economically, government really should only pass basic laws protecting trade and commerce within its borders, but little else. Socially, the government shouldn't care enough to be involved. Therefore, the primary purpose of government is a military one. A government should do everything in its power to fight and destroy any enemies of the state who pose a threat to the good of the country. Failing that, a government itself has failed.

Incorrect.


This is naïve and unfounded.


If government is to protect the law-abiding citizenry it represents, it must also protect law-abiding citizens from the capricious abuse that is inherent in all manifestations of a free market system: government is to protect citizens from abuse in the workplace, government is to protect citizens from unsafe goods and services, and government is to protect citizens from unsafe water, food, and environmental conditions.


Consequently, the necessary, proper, and Constitutional regulatory measures that exist as authorized by the Commerce Clause are just as valid, just as important, and just as legitimate as government's responsibility to protect citizens form foreign invasion and criminal conduct here at home.

The mistake you make is to incorrectly perceive 'the government' as some sort of entity separate and apart from the people, when in fact nothing could be farther from the truth – the government and the people are one in the same, government acts at the behest of the people, is controlled by the people, where commercial regulatory policies exist as intended by the people.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

In my opinion, the goal of any government is to protect the law-abiding citizenry it represents. Economy can mostly be run by people on their own; economically, government really should only pass basic laws protecting trade and commerce within its borders, but little else. Socially, the government shouldn't care enough to be involved. Therefore, the primary purpose of government is a military one. A government should do everything in its power to fight and destroy any enemies of the state who pose a threat to the good of the country. Failing that, a government itself has failed.

So you were an F- student when it came to social studies?

Or an A+ student when it came reactionary libertarianism.

 

[Derideo_Te]

In my opinion, the goal of any government is to protect the law-abiding citizenry it represents...

So you were an F- student when it came to social studies?

As much of an F-student as you are in social tact. No more, no less. If you're going to hurl a scathing insult like that, you just look like a dick.

Ironic!