The Geography Of WWIII

[PoliticalChic]

I care----the South China sea is part of the pacific in the same manner that the EAST RIVER is part of the Hudson

I guess I'd find a more practical answer helpful.

Excellent question.


"How much trade transits the South China Sea? The United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD) estimates that roughly 80 percent of global trade by volume and 70 percent by value is transported by sea."
How much trade transits the South China Sea? | ChinaPower Project

How much trade transits the South China Sea? | ChinaPower Project

Most of the shipping in the South China Sea is from China, a huge trader in the world. Since we are the largest trading partner with China, I guess we would find it necessary to transit the South China Seas, but wouldn't China need that, too? It takes two to trade.

There was no need for you to post that insult. I was simply asking a question.

If we take suggestions from those as short-sighted as you are, we would allow China to control some 80% of all commercial shipping, as well as the gas and oil reservoirs of that area.


"The Geopolitics of Oil and Gas in the South China Sea
Insights from Eufracia Taylor and Hugo Brennan.

By Mercy A. Kuo
December 12, 2018


Diplomat author Mercy Kuo regularly engages subject-matter experts, policy practitioners and strategic thinkers across the globe for their diverse insights into U.S. Asia policy. This conversation with Eufracia Taylor and Hugo Brennan – Senior Asia Analysts at risk consultancy Verisk Maplecroft – explores the motives of China’s push for joint oil and gas exploration in the South China Sea, and the broader consequences for geopolitics.

Explain the agenda behind Beijing’s offer of “joint oil and gas exploration” in the South China Sea to Southeast Asian countries.

The assertion of sovereignty over disputed areas is the name of the game, and Beijing considers joint oil and gas exploration as an important policy tool in pursuit of this goal. Signs of claimant states negotiating with Beijing to jointly explore for resources in their own Exclusive Economic Zones (EEZs) go a long way towards legitimizing China’s nine-dash line.

The strategic context affecting upstream development in the South China Sea is a rising China that is increasingly able and willing to assertively pursue its perceived sovereign rights to oil and gas resources."
The Geopolitics of Oil and Gas in the South China Sea



A pity you stuck to Chutes and Ladders rather than Chess.

So they want oil and gas. Why is that something we should be afraid of. PLEASE do not post another of your long tl:dr articles. Just tell me in simple English in a paragraph or two, please. If you can.

1. I post the way I choose. Your ADD is not a consideration to me. There are medications you can avail yourself of.....speak to your doctor to see if they're right for you.


2. "So they want oil and gas.:

IT'S-NOT-THEIRS.


To understand where China will look to solve it's energy problem,...

Paracel and Spratly Islands Forum The Cow Tongue China s Claims in the Eastern Sea South China Sea




6. "...it is not difficult to understand...of seizing the South China Sea, ...when briefing papers are telling them of untold riches of the sea. According to estimates...Nansha's ( the eighth largest island of Spratly Islands and the fourth largest among Philippine-occupied Spratly islands) oil reserves total over 10 billion tons..."
From the novel "Dragon Strike," by Hawksley

a. " In 1968, oil was discovered in the region.[4]The Geology and Mineral Resources Ministry of the People's Republic of China (PRC) has estimated that the Spratly area holds oil and natural gas reserves of 17.7 billion tons (1.60 × 1010kg),[citation needed]compared to the 13 billion tons (1.17 × 1010kg) held byKuwait, placing it as, potentially, the fourth largest reserve bed in the world. These large potential reserves have assisted in intensifying the territorial claims of the neighbouring countries." Spratly Islands dispute - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia




7. " The Spratly Islands dispute is an ongoing territorial dispute between Brunei,China (People's Republic of China),Malaysia, the Philippines,Taiwan (Republic of China), and Vietnam, concerning ownership of the Spratly Islands, a group of islands and associated "maritime features"(reefs, banks, cays, etc.) located in the South China Sea. The dispute is characterised by diplomatic stalemate and the employment of low-level military pressure techniques (such as military occupation of disputed territory) in the advancement of national territorial claims. All except Brunei occupy some of the maritime features." Spratly Islands dispute - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


If it were to gain total control of the South China Sea, which includes the Spratly and Paracel Islands, China would not need to import a drop of oil for the foreseeable future.


As an emerging superpower......what do you suppose the future of the South China Sea indicates?






Trying to educate you is like trying to crack ice with a banana.



Wise up, you dunce.

 

[OldLady]

Is there anyone else on this thread, besides the OP, who understands why China having its own oil reserves would be a terrible thing?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Is there anyone else on this thread, besides the OP, who understands why China having its own oil reserves would be a terrible thing?

Are you certified illiterate????


Have you been tested?


They SEIZED the reserves.



seize
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to take hold of suddenly or forcibly; grasp:to seize a weapon.
to grasp mentally; understand clearly and completely:to seize an idea.
to take possession of by force or at will:to seize enemy ships.
to take possession or control of as if by suddenly laying holdanic seized the crowd.
verb (used without object), seized, seiz·ing.
to grab or take hold suddenly or forcibly (usually followed by on or upon):to seize on a rope.
to resort to a method, plan, etc., in desperation (usually followed by on or upon):He must seize on a solution, however risky.
Definition of seized | Dictionary.com




I have to stop saying "How stupid can you be?"....seems you take it as a challenge.

 

[OldLady]

Is there anyone else on this thread, besides the OP, who understands why China having its own oil reserves would be a terrible thing?

Are you certified illiterate????


Have you been tested?


They SEIZED the reserves.



seize
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SEE MORE SYNONYMS FOR seize ON THESAURUS.COM
verb (used with object), seized, seiz·ing.
to take hold of suddenly or forcibly; grasp:to seize a weapon.
to grasp mentally; understand clearly and completely:to seize an idea.
to take possession of by force or at will:to seize enemy ships.
to take possession or control of as if by suddenly laying holdanic seized the crowd.
verb (used without object), seized, seiz·ing.
to grab or take hold suddenly or forcibly (usually followed by on or upon):to seize on a rope.
to resort to a method, plan, etc., in desperation (usually followed by on or upon):He must seize on a solution, however risky.
Definition of seized | Dictionary.com




I have to stop saying "How stupid can you be?"....seems you take it as a challenge.

Seized it from six other countries that also want to lay claim to it, right? Yeah, I saw that as I skimmed your encyclopedic articles.

SO WHAT? What do we do about it when Russia SEIZES Crimea or Georgia? What do we do about it when Israel SEIZES the West Bank? What did the world do when we seized California? C'mon. For you to suddenly have an attack of pearl clutching over SEIZING really prized territory is totally out of character.

I'm still hanging on in hopes someone who actually knows something about the topic might chime in and explain the problem.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Is there anyone else on this thread, besides the OP, who understands why China having its own oil reserves would be a terrible thing?

Are you certified illiterate????


Have you been tested?


They SEIZED the reserves.



seize
[ seez ]
||
SEE MORE SYNONYMS FOR seize ON THESAURUS.COM
verb (used with object), seized, seiz·ing.
to take hold of suddenly or forcibly; grasp:to seize a weapon.
to grasp mentally; understand clearly and completely:to seize an idea.
to take possession of by force or at will:to seize enemy ships.
to take possession or control of as if by suddenly laying holdanic seized the crowd.
verb (used without object), seized, seiz·ing.
to grab or take hold suddenly or forcibly (usually followed by on or upon):to seize on a rope.
to resort to a method, plan, etc., in desperation (usually followed by on or upon):He must seize on a solution, however risky.
Definition of seized | Dictionary.com




I have to stop saying "How stupid can you be?"....seems you take it as a challenge.

Seized it from six other countries that also want to lay claim to it, right? Yeah, I saw that as I skimmed your encyclopedic articles.

SO WHAT? What do we do about it when Russia SEIZES Crimea or Georgia? What do we do about it when Israel SEIZES the West Bank? What did the world do when we seized California? C'mon. For you to suddenly have an attack of pearl clutching over SEIZING really prized territory is totally out of character.

I'm still hanging on in hopes someone who actually knows something about the topic might chime in and explain the problem.

You just admitted that it was explained to you.

Your yellow streak is showing, too.

Get lost....m'kay?


Oh....and this?

You deserve it.

 

[Mike Dwight]

PoliticalChic acting like she understands a Single thing they do over there, the pretend communist/imperialists/capitalists playing White, I don't understand a snigle thing happening in Asia. So, South Korea lost a tiny rock called Dokdo, go see Korean kids doing protests and crying their eyes out or flash mobbing for Dokdo or whatever, try to give some other piece of land that's worth More than 80,000 Dollars , Then, its not all politics or you know you can't do it, China Siezed some land, first you'd have tot make n ethical/philosophical principle to even start talking about that. Was anybody else going to use the natural resource? Do you meant hey need to share it?

 

[PoliticalChic]

PoliticalChic acting like she understands a Single thing they do over there, the pretend communist/imperialists/capitalists playing White, I don't understand a snigle thing happening in Asia. So, South Korea lost a tiny rock called Dokdo, go see Korean kids doing protests and crying their eyes out or flash mobbing for Dokdo or whatever, try to give some other piece of land that's worth More than 80,000 Dollars , Then, its not all politics or you know you can't do it, China Siezed some land, first you'd have tot make n ethical/philosophical principle to even start talking about that. Was anybody else going to use the natural resource? Do you meant hey need to share it?

Did you think that post made sense??? If so, you must be sitting in an Ojibwe sweat lodge, on peyote.

Now....wipe the drool off your chin, and start over.

 

[Mike Dwight]

You posted about China seizing some land , as if in a non-political environment, China couldn't afford to buy some land? Land is some philosophical/geopolitical/religious ancient principle there, air, man, land all that. I don't know. So I'm not sure I know exactly which Western or Eastern school of thought comes from your immediate alertness about China Using some ocean islands? I compared Dokdo which was lost to Japan due to the Japanese Occupation period. The Silliest small Token of a loss, which, must somehow symbolically represent, Millions dead, labor camps, used citizenry, the entire country taken over in government down to the smallest property claim is forfeit. Silly as an issue that any Normal businessman opens a briefcase, takes the place, are they talking about property rights? I hate talking about Asian islands.

Moving on, everybody thought the Civil War was about King Cotton, that was just the comfortable spectators, I'm sure, that sort of attitude doesn't really stick, does it? Ya, one of our lives for "Commodity".

 

[PoliticalChic]

You posted about China seizing some land , as if in a non-political environment, China couldn't afford to buy some land? Land is some philosophical/geopolitical/religious ancient principle there, air, man, land all that. I don't know. So I'm not sure I know exactly which Western or Eastern school of thought comes from your immediate alertness about China Using some ocean islands? I compared Dokdo which was lost to Japan due to the Japanese Occupation period. The Silliest small Token of a loss, which, must somehow symbolically represent, Millions dead, labor camps, used citizenry, the entire country taken over in government down to the smallest property claim is forfeit. Silly as an issue that any Normal businessman opens a briefcase, takes the place, are they talking about property rights? I hate talking about Asian islands.

Moving on, everybody thought the Civil War was about King Cotton, that was just the comfortable spectators, I'm sure, that sort of attitude doesn't really stick, does it? Ya, one of our lives for "Commodity".

I'm doing my best to prevent you from sounding stupid....but you appear to have an unlimited quantity of same.


"You posted about China seizing some land....."


No, I didn't.


Clean off your glasses and take a gander at this....

Notice the word "sea," you dunce????

 

[OldLady]

It's too bad Political Chic isn't really anything but a glorified library bot who personalizes her articles with timely insults to prove she's not just a droid.
I'd be interested in learning about all this stuff going on in the China Sea--if anyone does find a thread where you can learn something, give me a call.

 

[PoliticalChic]

It's too bad Political Chic isn't really anything but a glorified library bot who personalizes her articles with timely insults to prove she's not just a droid.
I'd be interested in learning about all this stuff going on in the China Sea--if anyone does find a thread where you can learn something, give me a call.

Does the asylum allow calls to inmates????

Is there an extra charge?

 

[Mike Dwight]

I've heard Sweden steals Norway's off-shore oil. Any articles that China sees the best solution to be sort of imperializing all Asia? Maybe re-destroy nanking?

 

[PoliticalChic]

I've heard Sweden steals Norway's off-shore oil. Any articles that China sees the best solution to be sort of imperializing all Asia? Maybe re-destroy nanking?

Nothing you post makes sense.

Bet you get tired of hearing that from everyone, huh?




I believe we've proven that my thread is way beyond your ken.....drop back when the topic gets to favorite monster truck, or best 24-hour All Cartoon Network.

Now, back to your blanket fort.

 

[percysunshine]

Meh...there are only droplets of oil in the Spratleys. If there was oil, people would be drilling wells...but they are not.

This is just China being assholes.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Meh...there are only droplets of oil in the Spratleys. If there was oil, people would be drilling wells...but they are not.

This is just China being assholes.

I have a feeling that the appellation may just stick to you.


The South China Sea holds an estimated 190 trillion cubic feet of natural gas and 11 billion barrels of oil in proved and probable reserves, with much more potentially undiscovered.
South China Sea Energy Exploration and Development | Asia ...

South China Sea Energy Exploration and Development | Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative



I'd suggest you stick to posting only about things you actually know about.....but then you'd disappear from the board.

 

[percysunshine]

Meh...there are only droplets of oil in the Spratleys. If there was oil, people would be drilling wells...but they are not.

This is just China being assholes.

I have a feeling that the appellation may just stick to you.


The South China Sea holds an estimated 190 trillion cubic feet of natural gas and 11 billion barrels of oil in proved and probable reserves, with much more potentially undiscovered.
South China Sea Energy Exploration and Development | Asia ...

South China Sea Energy Exploration and Development | Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative



I'd suggest you stick to posting only about things you actually know about.....but then you'd disappear from the board.

Those are people who get paid to have theories. They are not paid to invest capital.

Think of the petroleum estimates of the USGS, and how many wells they drill.

At the end of the day, no one is taking the risk of drilling wells.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Meh...there are only droplets of oil in the Spratleys. If there was oil, people would be drilling wells...but they are not.

This is just China being assholes.

I have a feeling that the appellation may just stick to you.


The South China Sea holds an estimated 190 trillion cubic feet of natural gas and 11 billion barrels of oil in proved and probable reserves, with much more potentially undiscovered.
South China Sea Energy Exploration and Development | Asia ...

South China Sea Energy Exploration and Development | Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative



I'd suggest you stick to posting only about things you actually know about.....but then you'd disappear from the board.

Those are people who get paid to have theories. They are not paid to invest capital.

Think of the petroleum estimates of the USGS, and how many wells they drill.

At the end of the day, no one is taking the risk of drilling wells.

"...only droplets of oil...."

That's what you said.
So, China is risking loss of face at the least, and war in the worst case over only droplets of oil.

I believe you've been put in your place.....last seat in the dumb row.


Although the conclusion is hardly in doubt, let's give you a little IQ test: can you count to potato?

 

[percysunshine]

Meh...there are only droplets of oil in the Spratleys. If there was oil, people would be drilling wells...but they are not.

This is just China being assholes.

I have a feeling that the appellation may just stick to you.


The South China Sea holds an estimated 190 trillion cubic feet of natural gas and 11 billion barrels of oil in proved and probable reserves, with much more potentially undiscovered.
South China Sea Energy Exploration and Development | Asia ...

South China Sea Energy Exploration and Development | Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative



I'd suggest you stick to posting only about things you actually know about.....but then you'd disappear from the board.

Those are people who get paid to have theories. They are not paid to invest capital.

Think of the petroleum estimates of the USGS, and how many wells they drill.

At the end of the day, no one is taking the risk of drilling wells.

"...only droplets of oil...."

That's what you said.
So, China is risking loss of face at the least, and war in the worst case over only droplets of oil.

I believe you've been put in your place.....last seat in the dumb row.


Although the conclusion is hardly in doubt, let's give you a little IQ test: can you count to potato?

The entire issue is establishing and saving face. A common asian cultural trait.

Petroleum resources are a sideshow. A convenient distraction.

 

[JoeB131]

Pity you can't see further than that big red nose of yours.

Nope... Just can't see risking WWIII over some crappy little Islands the Filipinos are too dirt poor to develop, anyway...

So one more time- Tell me why it's my problem if China takes these Islands in THEIR sea?

And now for an explanation of the difference between you and I........one a level even you can understand.

The Dog and the Wolf

Somehow, I doubt you have ever signed up for the Military to protect your freedoms... you let someone else do that.

The Chinese aren't out to enslave us. They aren't even out to conquer the Philippines, because who want to inherit THAT mess?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Meh...there are only droplets of oil in the Spratleys. If there was oil, people would be drilling wells...but they are not.

This is just China being assholes.

I have a feeling that the appellation may just stick to you.


The South China Sea holds an estimated 190 trillion cubic feet of natural gas and 11 billion barrels of oil in proved and probable reserves, with much more potentially undiscovered.
South China Sea Energy Exploration and Development | Asia ...

South China Sea Energy Exploration and Development | Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative



I'd suggest you stick to posting only about things you actually know about.....but then you'd disappear from the board.

Those are people who get paid to have theories. They are not paid to invest capital.

Think of the petroleum estimates of the USGS, and how many wells they drill.

At the end of the day, no one is taking the risk of drilling wells.

"...only droplets of oil...."

That's what you said.
So, China is risking loss of face at the least, and war in the worst case over only droplets of oil.

I believe you've been put in your place.....last seat in the dumb row.


Although the conclusion is hardly in doubt, let's give you a little IQ test: can you count to potato?

The entire issue is establishing and saving face. A common asian cultural trait.

Petroleum resources are a sideshow. A convenient distraction.

" State media says China has found more than 100 billion cubic meters of natural gas in the politically volatile South China Sea.
The natural gas was discovered at the Lingshui 17-2 gas field, 150 kilometers south of southern Hainan island. "
China says natural gas found off Hainan s shores - The Standard


"...it is not difficult to understand...of seizing the South China Sea, ...when briefing papers are telling them of untold riches of the sea. According to estimates...Nansha's ( the eighth largest island of Spratly Islands and the fourth largest among Philippine-occupied Spratly islands) oil reserves total over 10 billion tons..."
From the novel "Dragon Strike," by Hawksley

a. " In 1968, oil was discovered in the region.[4]The Geology and Mineral Resources Ministry of the People's Republic of China (PRC) has estimated that the Spratly area holds oil and natural gas reserves of 17.7 billion tons (1.60 × 1010kg),[citation needed]compared to the 13 billion tons (1.17 × 1010kg) held byKuwait, placing it as, potentially, the fourth largest reserve bed in the world. These large potential reserves have assisted in intensifying the territorial claims of the neighbouring countries." Spratly Islands dispute - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia



"So you want your own private island? China certainly does. It has been building manmade bases over some of the Spratly Islands in the South China Sea since 2014, much to the annoyance of other powers in the region—the Philippines, Malaysia, Vietnam, and Japan all lay claim to parts of the sea, which is a valuable trade passage and fishing ground. On Monday the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) confirmed the completion of another Chinese man-made island, China’s Fiery Cross Island, and the new land is now ready for use as a military base.

The U.S. estimates China has added 3,200 acres of land on seven features (which includes rocky outcrops and reefs) over the past three years, although China denies it is militarizing the islands it has built. Last week, Chinese Premier Li Keqiang said that the defense equipment on the islands was there to maintain "freedom of navigation". Fiery Cross reef, once merely a mass of rocks and a coral reef, now has a runway and several other buildings, including basketball courts and a running track. The island joins several other military bases in the South China Sea, adding extra aerial capacity to existing naval resources and mobile missile launchers.

“Beijing can now deploy military assets, including combat aircraft and mobile missile launchers to the Spratly Islands at any time,” said the Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative (AMTI) on Monday in a report that included images of the three man-made islands—Fiery Cross reef, Subi, and Mischief. Its director Greg Poling told Voice of America that new antennas had been spotted on Subi and Fiery Cross, so he expected deployments there soon."
How China is building its new territory in the South China Sea




You should get in touch with the Chinese forthwith.....imagine the money you could save them.



It appears that the difference between your post and truth is akin to the difference between a lightning bug and lightning.