The FOX and the Saudi Prince.

[Revere]

Is a Hungarian currency manipulator a "good foreigner?"

 

[The T]

Well, he certainly doesn't appear to have much influence on Fox as so many tell us that Fox promotes Islamophobia.

Uht-Oh! Double entendre.

 

[Vel]

The deflections are amazing.

It's in the best interest of the Saudis we keep buying oil. They buy off their population. They don't really produce much else and they are oppressive as heck. Not only that..within their borders they tell their people all their woes are because of America. And the Princes travel world wide and don't live like the common folk they force their misery upon.

And it is those very people, the Princes, that are very well involved in our political process.

So you seem to be saying that NewsCorp should shun the Saudi's and yet...

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd425zfw5Ew[/ame]

Seems a bit of a double standard.

 

[Jeremy]

ha ha ha CHOO!!!!!!

Damn allergies are kicking in again.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

How come nobody cares about "foreign influence" when it comes to where the cash for the mosque is coming from?

What percent of News Corp does he own?

Does GE/NBC disclose its ties to Obama's stimulus?

I sort of don't give a rats ass about the "Mosque" or who invests in it.

What I do give a rats ass about is a "News Organization" claiming that it is unbiased and spews false stories almost on a daily basis. Then it contributes millions to political causes. And THEN it's disclosed that a big stake owner comes from a backward extremely conservative theocratic nation who's main source of revenue is oil.

Provide evidence that Fox spews false stories almost on a daily basis.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

The deflections are amazing.

It's in the best interest of the Saudis we keep buying oil. They buy off their population. They don't really produce much else and they are oppressive as heck. Not only that..within their borders they tell their people all their woes are because of America. And the Princes travel world wide and don't live like the common folk they force their misery upon.

And it is those very people, the Princes, that are very well involved in our political process.

When was the last time you were in Saudi Arabia?

Oh and prove your claim that "they tell their people all their woes are because of America."

 

[Lonestar_logic]

And, the corpoaration in which the prince invests overwhelmingly supports the Democratic Party.

NewsCorp supports the Democratic party? That's rich.
....

Yes, it does, more than the GOP and even more than GE does. I guess I posted the link above for no reason.

Liberal idiots ignore links that prove them wrong.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Of course he's against the mosque, it is being built by a MODERATE muslim group...he belongs to an EXTREME muslim group.
Come to think of it, maybe that's why FOX is against it as well.

Prove it.

 

[gautama]

Well it appears that NewsCorps second largest investor is Prince Walid Bin Talal..

Prince Walid bin Talal of Saudi Arabia is also the second-largest shareholder of Fox News’s parent, the News Corporation, with a stake worth more than $2 billion, which was not always disclosed on Fox News.

In fact, Prince Walid, in his first public comments about the matter, says he is actually opposed to the Islamic center’s being built in downtown Manhattan.

“I have been associated with this mosque in New York, but frankly speaking, I have nothing to do with it,” he said in an interview. “I’m not for putting that mosque there.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/18/b...=1&scp=1&sq=October 18, 2010 Fox Saudi&st=cse

This disclosed after NewsCorp made several million dollars in donations to Republican Candidates.

So the right wing propaganda arm of the Republican Party, which created the current Tea Party has now disclosed that a huge investor is a Saudi Prince.

Outstanding.

In case you are not aware of REALITY:

There are good Saudi princes, and there are Saudi princes who are arseholes.

There are good Christians, Buddhists, and Jews.....and there are arseholes amongst them.

However, ALL ISLAMOFASCISTS and Obamarrhoidal LIEberrhoids are certified arseholes.

And the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of the Muslims (the Mid East Variety, and those residing in America who originated from the Mid East) are arseholes

 

[Sallow]

The deflections are amazing.

It's in the best interest of the Saudis we keep buying oil. They buy off their population. They don't really produce much else and they are oppressive as heck. Not only that..within their borders they tell their people all their woes are because of America. And the Princes travel world wide and don't live like the common folk they force their misery upon.

And it is those very people, the Princes, that are very well involved in our political process.

So you seem to be saying that NewsCorp should shun the Saudi's and yet...

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd425zfw5Ew[/ame]

Seems a bit of a double standard.

Shun? No.

Perhaps stop the propaganda..yes.

It damages the national discourse.

 

[Sallow]

Of course he's against the mosque, it is being built by a MODERATE muslim group...he belongs to an EXTREME muslim group.
Come to think of it, maybe that's why FOX is against it as well.

Prove it.

The Saudi Princes..are not extremist..per se. But they do promote it somewhat. Generally by use of schools that put forth the notion that America is bad.

 

[Revere]

You can listen to any Obama speech and hear that America is bad.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Of course he's against the mosque, it is being built by a MODERATE muslim group...he belongs to an EXTREME muslim group.
Come to think of it, maybe that's why FOX is against it as well.

Prove it.

The Saudi Princes..are not extremist..per se. But they do promote it somewhat. Generally by use of schools that put forth the notion that America is bad.

I asked for proof. You failed!

 

[Sallow]

Prove it.

The Saudi Princes..are not extremist..per se. But they do promote it somewhat. Generally by use of schools that put forth the notion that America is bad.

I asked for proof. You failed!

Proof of what?

This?

Examples of the Current State of Madrasas
Role of Saudi Arabia.13 In recent years, the dissemination of Saudi Arabian
donations to Islamic charities and the export of a Saudi educational curriculum have
received worldwide attention. Although in Saudi Arabia itself, schools teach subjects
beyond religious studies, conservative Islamic teachings permeate the Saudi educational
system structure. Viewing Saudi Arabia with greater scrutiny following the events of
September 11, experts have maintained that Saudi school curricula foster anti-Western
and anti-Semitic sentiments. Saudi official textbooks also reportedly denounce Shi’a
Islam as well as any popular Islamic practices that do not agree with Wahhabi beliefs.14
In response to such allegations and following a review of schoolbooks in 2002, the Saudi
foreign minister stated that, in light of a Saudi government survey, 5% of the material was
considered “horrible” and 10% questionable, while 85% called for understanding with
other religious faiths.15 Shortly thereafter, the government vowed to remove objectionable
parts and to train teachers in promoting tolerance, but skeptics continue to question the
extent to which the government is willing or able to instill reforms in its schools.
http://www.investigativeproject.org/documents/testimony/335.pdf

Oh and google works for everyone.

 

[rdean]

Well, he certainly doesn't appear to have much influence on Fox as so many tell us that Fox promotes Islamophobia.

That's because their goal is to bring down the United States. It's so obvious, anyone can see it.

That prince supported the 9/11 terrorists and holds fundraisers for the families of suicide bombers.

His shares plus Murdoch's shares keeps Fox safe from a "hostile takeover". That's why they are working together.

I'm surprised someone assigned me an Avatar. Can you do that to just anyone?

 

[rdean]

You can listen to any Obama speech and hear that America is bad.

You're a dirty liar.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

The Saudi Princes..are not extremist..per se. But they do promote it somewhat. Generally by use of schools that put forth the notion that America is bad.

I asked for proof. You failed!

Proof of what?

This?

Examples of the Current State of Madrasas
Role of Saudi Arabia.13 In recent years, the dissemination of Saudi Arabian
donations to Islamic charities and the export of a Saudi educational curriculum have
received worldwide attention. Although in Saudi Arabia itself, schools teach subjects
beyond religious studies, conservative Islamic teachings permeate the Saudi educational
system structure. Viewing Saudi Arabia with greater scrutiny following the events of
September 11, experts have maintained that Saudi school curricula foster anti-Western
and anti-Semitic sentiments. Saudi official textbooks also reportedly denounce Shi’a
Islam as well as any popular Islamic practices that do not agree with Wahhabi beliefs.14
In response to such allegations and following a review of schoolbooks in 2002, the Saudi
foreign minister stated that, in light of a Saudi government survey, 5% of the material was
considered “horrible” and 10% questionable, while 85% called for understanding with
other religious faiths.15 Shortly thereafter, the government vowed to remove objectionable
parts and to train teachers in promoting tolerance, but skeptics continue to question the
extent to which the government is willing or able to instill reforms in its schools.
http://www.investigativeproject.org/documents/testimony/335.pdf

Oh and google works for everyone.

That proves absolutely nothing.


From your link.

Since the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001, the Islamic religious schools
known as madrasas (or madrassahs) in the Middle East, Central, and Southeast Asia
have been of increasing interest to U.S. policy makers. Some allege ties between
madrasas and terrorist organizations, such as Al Qaeda, and assert that these religious
schools promote Islamic extremism and militancy. Others maintain that most of these
religious schools have been blamed unfairly for fostering anti-U.S. sentiments and for
producing terrorists. This report1 provides an overview of madrasas, their role in the
Muslim world, and issues related to their alleged financing by Saudi Arabia and other
donors. The report also addresses the findings of the National Commission on Terrorist
Attacks Upon the United States (the “9/11 Commission”) and issues relevant to the
109th Congress. Related CRS products include CRS Report RS22009, CRS Issue Brief
IB93113, CRS Report RL32499, CRS Report RS21695, CRS Report RS21457, CRS
Report RL32259, and CRS Report RS21432. This report will be updated periodically.

 

[Sallow]

I asked for proof. You failed!

Proof of what?

This?

Examples of the Current State of Madrasas
Role of Saudi Arabia.13 In recent years, the dissemination of Saudi Arabian
donations to Islamic charities and the export of a Saudi educational curriculum have
received worldwide attention. Although in Saudi Arabia itself, schools teach subjects
beyond religious studies, conservative Islamic teachings permeate the Saudi educational
system structure. Viewing Saudi Arabia with greater scrutiny following the events of
September 11, experts have maintained that Saudi school curricula foster anti-Western
and anti-Semitic sentiments. Saudi official textbooks also reportedly denounce Shi’a
Islam as well as any popular Islamic practices that do not agree with Wahhabi beliefs.14
In response to such allegations and following a review of schoolbooks in 2002, the Saudi
foreign minister stated that, in light of a Saudi government survey, 5% of the material was
considered “horrible” and 10% questionable, while 85% called for understanding with
other religious faiths.15 Shortly thereafter, the government vowed to remove objectionable
parts and to train teachers in promoting tolerance, but skeptics continue to question the
extent to which the government is willing or able to instill reforms in its schools.
http://www.investigativeproject.org/documents/testimony/335.pdf

Oh and google works for everyone.

That proves absolutely nothing.


From your link.

Since the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001, the Islamic religious schools
known as madrasas (or madrassahs) in the Middle East, Central, and Southeast Asia
have been of increasing interest to U.S. policy makers. Some allege ties between
madrasas and terrorist organizations, such as Al Qaeda, and assert that these religious
schools promote Islamic extremism and militancy. Others maintain that most of these
religious schools have been blamed unfairly for fostering anti-U.S. sentiments and for
producing terrorists. This report1 provides an overview of madrasas, their role in the
Muslim world, and issues related to their alleged financing by Saudi Arabia and other
donors. The report also addresses the findings of the National Commission on Terrorist
Attacks Upon the United States (the “9/11 Commission”) and issues relevant to the
109th Congress. Related CRS products include CRS Report RS22009, CRS Issue Brief
IB93113, CRS Report RL32499, CRS Report RS21695, CRS Report RS21457, CRS
Report RL32259, and CRS Report RS21432. This report will be updated periodically.

This is the same sort of "logic" that ignored the multiple warnings about the impending attack on New York City. Heck..Osama Bin Laden was interviewed by Western Journalists and he said..he was going to attack. Someone probably said, "But he worked with the CIA to rid Afghanistan of the Soviets..see..he doesn't really mean it..that's unfair".

 

[Ravi]

From Wikipedia:

Saudi Arabia is an Islamic monarchy and the Government has declared the Qur'an and the Sunnah (tradition) of Muhammad to be the country’s Constitution. Freedom of religion is severely limited. Islam is the official religion. Under the law, children of male citizens are considered Muslim, regardless of the country or the religious tradition in which they have been raised.[3] The Government prohibits the public practice of other religions. The Government bases its legitimacy on governance according to the precepts of the rigorously conservative and strict interpretation of the Salafi or Wahhabi school of the Sunni branch of Islam and discriminates against other branches of Islam. Neither the Government nor society in general accepts the concepts of separation of religion and state, and such separation does not exist.

Yes, the brand of Islam practiced in Saudi Arabia is extreme not moderate.