The Extreme-Left wins in Greece

[Mindful]

Fancy seeing you here, Tyrone.

What do you think of a far left/far right coalition? Think such an arrangement could work in the US?

 

[Bush92]

Hochrechnung in Griechenland Syriza ist klarer Wahlsieger tagesschau.de

Ales Tsipras (SYRIZA): 36.5%
Antonis Samaras (ND): 27.7% - he was the incumbent
Nikolaos Michaloliakos (Golden Dawn Party): 6.3% (extreme Right-Wing party)
Stavros Theodorakis (Po Tomaki): 5.9% (pro european Party)
Evangelos Venizelos (Socialist): 4.8%
all other parties together: 18.8%

Current margin: Tsipras (SYRIZA) +8.8%

This is a parliamentary election, so Tsipras' Party will need to try to get an outright majority of seats in the Hellenic Parliament, otherwise, it will have to form a coalition government.

The party of Austerity was defeated.
But the party that is most Europe-friendly also did badly.

Now Greece is fucked. How stupid. Put the bastards in power that created the problem in the first place.

 

[Tom Sweetnam]

A far left government that's going to pull a rabbit out of its economic hat. I'm laughing as I type this.

 

[The Rabbi]

A far left government that's going to pull a rabbit out of its economic hat. I'm laughing as I type this.

Greece is a good object lesson on what happens when government "protects" industries and workers. You get stagnation, unemployment, and dependency. We're heading there now.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Please don't make any more of a fool out of yourself than you need to.

I bet you have no idea how greek politics works or which party was in control when the majority of the financial crisis was created.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Now maybe the nation can start recovering from the crash.

They've been choked with austerity for all this time and things have not gotten better.

Lets hope that the government of Greece will work to bring their nation back from the horrible austerity that's been choking them and holding them back from recovery.

Greece's Syriza To Form Government After Election Victory

Liberal? Syriza is filled with communists. Their program is to fuck the other Europeans who have loaned them money over the past 10 years. It is a recipe for disaster and the stupid Greeks bought into it. Forty years of socialism have made them want someone to pay their bills. If not their government, then the European Union. If not them, then the Germans.
Greece will default on its debt and be kicked out of the Euro zone in 6 months. And of course their economy will not recover. Austerity? They should try it sometime.

You know nothing about Greek politics and even less what actually happened to their economy. You are too stupid to know that there is a real Communist party in Greece, and Syriza is not it.

You are too uninformed to know that for 27 years, a number of ruling coalitions, both from the Left and from the Right, allowed so many tax breaks for the rich until they literally pay no taxes at all. THAT is what has caused the problem, not "socialism".

Your arrogance is only to be outdone by your ignorance, as usual.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Already have a thread going in the elections section about this. Wanna merge??

I know there's a thread about the election and it was created before the outcome.

If there's a thread about the outcome, yes, this thread should be merged with it.

If that thread is the one before the outcome, no, it shouldn't be merged because the conversation is different now that we know the outcome.

It's was made after he was declared the winner. I don't care which thread gets merged, but it might be nice to have the data all in one place.

AVG-JOE
Coyote

I was planning to publish the end -results at the thread in the Elections section when the final canvasses are in. Voting is mandatory in Greece, but it usually takes a couple of days to get the final numbers.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Liberal? Syriza is filled with communists. Their program is to fuck the other Europeans who have loaned them money over the past 10 years. It is a recipe for disaster and the stupid Greeks bought into it. Forty years of socialism have made them want someone to pay their bills. If not their government, then the European Union. If not them, then the Germans.
Greece will default on its debt and be kicked out of the Euro zone in 6 months. And of course their economy will not recover. Austerity? They should try it sometime.

Preserved for posterity.

 

[The Rabbi]

Now maybe the nation can start recovering from the crash.

They've been choked with austerity for all this time and things have not gotten better.

Lets hope that the government of Greece will work to bring their nation back from the horrible austerity that's been choking them and holding them back from recovery.

Greece's Syriza To Form Government After Election Victory

Liberal? Syriza is filled with communists. Their program is to fuck the other Europeans who have loaned them money over the past 10 years. It is a recipe for disaster and the stupid Greeks bought into it. Forty years of socialism have made them want someone to pay their bills. If not their government, then the European Union. If not them, then the Germans.
Greece will default on its debt and be kicked out of the Euro zone in 6 months. And of course their economy will not recover. Austerity? They should try it sometime.

You know nothing about Greek politics and even less what actually happened to their economy. You are too stupid to know that there is a real Communist party in Greece, and Syriza is not it.

You are too uninformed to know that for 27 years, a number of ruling coalitions, both from the Left and from the Right, allowed so many tax breaks for the rich until they literally pay no taxes at all. THAT is what has caused the problem, not "socialism".

Your arrogance is only to be outdone by your ignorance, as usual.

You are a stupid stupid boy.
Syriza Everything you need to know about Greece s new Marxist governing party - Europe - World - The Independent
Their economy is hamstrung by absurd labor rules, an enormous government (53% of GDP is government spending), byzantine rules for businesses and the all the crap that leftist scumbags usually propose. There have been no "right wing" governments the way Americans understand the term. They have all been social democrat in nature, feeding unions and promoting more transfer payments.
Syriza now proposes to double down on stupid. This will not end well.
You are an idiot and an arrogant prick at that.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Now maybe the nation can start recovering from the crash.

They've been choked with austerity for all this time and things have not gotten better.

Lets hope that the government of Greece will work to bring their nation back from the horrible austerity that's been choking them and holding them back from recovery.

Greece's Syriza To Form Government After Election Victory

so lets do what put us in that really bad situation in the first place, b/c this time doing it the wrong way will work!!!

 

[Statistikhengst]

Now maybe the nation can start recovering from the crash.

They've been choked with austerity for all this time and things have not gotten better.

Lets hope that the government of Greece will work to bring their nation back from the horrible austerity that's been choking them and holding them back from recovery.

Greece's Syriza To Form Government After Election Victory

Liberal? Syriza is filled with communists. Their program is to fuck the other Europeans who have loaned them money over the past 10 years. It is a recipe for disaster and the stupid Greeks bought into it. Forty years of socialism have made them want someone to pay their bills. If not their government, then the European Union. If not them, then the Germans.
Greece will default on its debt and be kicked out of the Euro zone in 6 months. And of course their economy will not recover. Austerity? They should try it sometime.

You know nothing about Greek politics and even less what actually happened to their economy. You are too stupid to know that there is a real Communist party in Greece, and Syriza is not it.

You are too uninformed to know that for 27 years, a number of ruling coalitions, both from the Left and from the Right, allowed so many tax breaks for the rich until they literally pay no taxes at all. THAT is what has caused the problem, not "socialism".

Your arrogance is only to be outdone by your ignorance, as usual.

You are a stupid stupid boy.
Syriza Everything you need to know about Greece s new Marxist governing party - Europe - World - The Independent
Their economy is hamstrung by absurd labor rules, an enormous government (53% of GDP is government spending), byzantine rules for businesses and the all the crap that leftist scumbags usually propose. There have been no "right wing" governments the way Americans understand the term. They have all been social democrat in nature, feeding unions and promoting more transfer payments.
Syriza now proposes to double down on stupid. This will not end well.
You are an idiot and an arrogant prick at that.

You still don't know the economic history of Greece or how it got there, fake Rabbi. I do.


So, a little history lesson for you, you stupid fuck.

In 1991, under a Conservative government, Greece failed to meet the convergence requirements of Maastricht because it had a 19.8% inflation rate, debt was 11.5% of GDP and the economy was shrinking.

Under a SOCIALIST government from 1993-2004 (Papandreou and Simitis), Greece brought it's inflation down to the 4% requirement by Maastricht. The SOCIALIST government of Greece also brought the debt down from 11.5% of GDP in 1993 to 3% as of 2000. These two changed allowed Greece to join the EuroZone. Also, the GDP of Greece rose during this time, the unemployment rate went down, and the rich had to pay some taxes. And the economy of Greece was growing by 4% as of August, 1999, under a SOCIALIST government.

Then, in 2004, with the election of a Conservative government (Karamanlis), the whole thing went to hell, and similarly to Bush 43, the seeds for a massive recession were already planted. Unemployment soared under Karamanlis and his goverment redid the tax code that essentially allowed all wealthy Greeks to pay ZERO in taxes. By 2006, under Karamanlis, a CONSERVATIVE, debt was 103% of GDP. Remember, in 2000, it was 3% (under a SOCIALIST government).

Papandreous' son, Georg Papandreou, a Liberal, was elected in 2009, but the damage was already long done to a small country that never completely recovered from the last 3 or 4 recessions.

It' the Greek CONSERVATIVES who robbed the store and fucked the country, thank you.

You are a bitter old failing son of a bitch with no sense of decency, no moral and no manners.
Off is the direction in which you can fuck.

 

[Meathead]

Please don't make any more of a fool out of yourself than you need to.

I bet you have no idea how greek politics works or which party was in control when the majority of the financial crisis was created.

I do. The Socialist under the reign of Andreas Papandreaou, prime minister of Greece from 1981 to 1989 and (Mitsokakos 90 to 93) then again from1993 until his death in 1996 followed by Simitis from 1996 to 2004 (Karamanlis 2004 - 2009) and then George Papanreaou 2009 - 2011.

I would ask you to do the math, but as we all know, you are innumerate. Socialist 21 to 7. The Greek propensity to spend blindly and early retirement and spend like drunken sailors for "social equality" was certainly not the doing of the center right.

You're an uninformed idiot.

 

[Meathead]

Under a SOCIALIST government from 1993-2004 (Papandreou and Simitis), Greece brought it's inflation down to the 4% requirement by Maastricht. The SOCIALIST government of Greece also brought the debt down from 11.5% of GDP in 1993 to 3% as of 2000. These two changed allowed Greece to join the EuroZone. Also, the GDP of Greece rose during this time, the unemployment rate went down, and the rich had to pay some taxes. And the economy of Greece was growing by 4% as of August, 1999, under a SOCIALIST government.

.

How the fuck did you think the debt accumulated? The Greek drachma was tied to the Euro in 2000, and yet you give the socialist credit for inflation and GDP, "SOCIALIST government of Greece also brought the debt down from 11.5% of GDP in 1993 to 3% as of 2000"

You're such a disingenuous prick.

 

[The Rabbi]

Now maybe the nation can start recovering from the crash.

They've been choked with austerity for all this time and things have not gotten better.

Lets hope that the government of Greece will work to bring their nation back from the horrible austerity that's been choking them and holding them back from recovery.

Greece's Syriza To Form Government After Election Victory

Liberal? Syriza is filled with communists. Their program is to fuck the other Europeans who have loaned them money over the past 10 years. It is a recipe for disaster and the stupid Greeks bought into it. Forty years of socialism have made them want someone to pay their bills. If not their government, then the European Union. If not them, then the Germans.
Greece will default on its debt and be kicked out of the Euro zone in 6 months. And of course their economy will not recover. Austerity? They should try it sometime.

You know nothing about Greek politics and even less what actually happened to their economy. You are too stupid to know that there is a real Communist party in Greece, and Syriza is not it.

You are too uninformed to know that for 27 years, a number of ruling coalitions, both from the Left and from the Right, allowed so many tax breaks for the rich until they literally pay no taxes at all. THAT is what has caused the problem, not "socialism".

Your arrogance is only to be outdone by your ignorance, as usual.

You are a stupid stupid boy.
Syriza Everything you need to know about Greece s new Marxist governing party - Europe - World - The Independent
Their economy is hamstrung by absurd labor rules, an enormous government (53% of GDP is government spending), byzantine rules for businesses and the all the crap that leftist scumbags usually propose. There have been no "right wing" governments the way Americans understand the term. They have all been social democrat in nature, feeding unions and promoting more transfer payments.
Syriza now proposes to double down on stupid. This will not end well.
You are an idiot and an arrogant prick at that.

You still don't know the economic history of Greece or how it got there, fake Rabbi. I do.


So, a little history lesson for you, you stupid fuck.

In 1991, under a Conservative government, Greece failed to meet the convergence requirements of Maastricht because it had a 19.8% inflation rate, debt was 11.5% of GDP and the economy was shrinking.

Under a SOCIALIST government from 1993-2004 (Papandreou and Simitis), Greece brought it's inflation down to the 4% requirement by Maastricht. The SOCIALIST government of Greece also brought the debt down from 11.5% of GDP in 1993 to 3% as of 2000. These two changed allowed Greece to join the EuroZone. Also, the GDP of Greece rose during this time, the unemployment rate went down, and the rich had to pay some taxes. And the economy of Greece was growing by 4% as of August, 1999, under a SOCIALIST government.

Then, in 2004, with the election of a Conservative government (Karamanlis), the whole thing went to hell, and similarly to Bush 43, the seeds for a massive recession were already planted. Unemployment soared under Karamanlis and his goverment redid the tax code that essentially allowed all wealthy Greeks to pay ZERO in taxes. By 2006, under Karamanlis, a CONSERVATIVE, debt was 103% of GDP. Remember, in 2000, it was 3% (under a SOCIALIST government).

Papandreous' son, Georg Papandreou, a Liberal, was elected in 2009, but the damage was already long done to a small country that never completely recovered from the last 3 or 4 recessions.

It' the Greek CONSERVATIVES who robbed the store and fucked the country, thank you.

You are a bitter old failing son of a bitch with no sense of decency, no moral and no manners.
Off is the direction in which you can fuck.

Instead of trying to blame "Conservatives" why dont you look at how their economy functions, you idiot butt fucker? Look at the growth fo the governmetn sector, the strangulation of the private economy, etc.
You are a partisan shit head lacking even the most basic sense.
Go eat shit.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Now maybe the nation can start recovering from the crash.

They've been choked with austerity for all this time and things have not gotten better.

Lets hope that the government of Greece will work to bring their nation back from the horrible austerity that's been choking them and holding them back from recovery.

Greece's Syriza To Form Government After Election Victory

Liberal? Syriza is filled with communists. Their program is to fuck the other Europeans who have loaned them money over the past 10 years. It is a recipe for disaster and the stupid Greeks bought into it. Forty years of socialism have made them want someone to pay their bills. If not their government, then the European Union. If not them, then the Germans.
Greece will default on its debt and be kicked out of the Euro zone in 6 months. And of course their economy will not recover. Austerity? They should try it sometime.

You know nothing about Greek politics and even less what actually happened to their economy. You are too stupid to know that there is a real Communist party in Greece, and Syriza is not it.

You are too uninformed to know that for 27 years, a number of ruling coalitions, both from the Left and from the Right, allowed so many tax breaks for the rich until they literally pay no taxes at all. THAT is what has caused the problem, not "socialism".

Your arrogance is only to be outdone by your ignorance, as usual.

You are a stupid stupid boy.
Syriza Everything you need to know about Greece s new Marxist governing party - Europe - World - The Independent
Their economy is hamstrung by absurd labor rules, an enormous government (53% of GDP is government spending), byzantine rules for businesses and the all the crap that leftist scumbags usually propose. There have been no "right wing" governments the way Americans understand the term. They have all been social democrat in nature, feeding unions and promoting more transfer payments.
Syriza now proposes to double down on stupid. This will not end well.
You are an idiot and an arrogant prick at that.

You still don't know the economic history of Greece or how it got there, fake Rabbi. I do.


So, a little history lesson for you, you stupid fuck.

In 1991, under a Conservative government, Greece failed to meet the convergence requirements of Maastricht because it had a 19.8% inflation rate, debt was 11.5% of GDP and the economy was shrinking.

Under a SOCIALIST government from 1993-2004 (Papandreou and Simitis), Greece brought it's inflation down to the 4% requirement by Maastricht. The SOCIALIST government of Greece also brought the debt down from 11.5% of GDP in 1993 to 3% as of 2000. These two changed allowed Greece to join the EuroZone. Also, the GDP of Greece rose during this time, the unemployment rate went down, and the rich had to pay some taxes. And the economy of Greece was growing by 4% as of August, 1999, under a SOCIALIST government.

Then, in 2004, with the election of a Conservative government (Karamanlis), the whole thing went to hell, and similarly to Bush 43, the seeds for a massive recession were already planted. Unemployment soared under Karamanlis and his goverment redid the tax code that essentially allowed all wealthy Greeks to pay ZERO in taxes. By 2006, under Karamanlis, a CONSERVATIVE, debt was 103% of GDP. Remember, in 2000, it was 3% (under a SOCIALIST government).

Papandreous' son, Georg Papandreou, a Liberal, was elected in 2009, but the damage was already long done to a small country that never completely recovered from the last 3 or 4 recessions.

It' the Greek CONSERVATIVES who robbed the store and fucked the country, thank you.

You are a bitter old failing son of a bitch with no sense of decency, no moral and no manners.
Off is the direction in which you can fuck.

Instead of trying to blame "Conservatives" why dont you look at how their economy functions, you idiot butt fucker? Look at the growth fo the governmetn sector, the strangulation of the private economy, etc.
You are a partisan shit head lacking even the most basic sense.
Go eat shit.

So, when you get hammered with real historical fact, you call someone a butt fucker. Love it.
Your ignorance and bile is something for the history books.

 

[Meathead]

Liberal? Syriza is filled with communists. Their program is to fuck the other Europeans who have loaned them money over the past 10 years. It is a recipe for disaster and the stupid Greeks bought into it. Forty years of socialism have made them want someone to pay their bills. If not their government, then the European Union. If not them, then the Germans.
Greece will default on its debt and be kicked out of the Euro zone in 6 months. And of course their economy will not recover. Austerity? They should try it sometime.

You know nothing about Greek politics and even less what actually happened to their economy. You are too stupid to know that there is a real Communist party in Greece, and Syriza is not it.

You are too uninformed to know that for 27 years, a number of ruling coalitions, both from the Left and from the Right, allowed so many tax breaks for the rich until they literally pay no taxes at all. THAT is what has caused the problem, not "socialism".

Your arrogance is only to be outdone by your ignorance, as usual.

You are a stupid stupid boy.
Syriza Everything you need to know about Greece s new Marxist governing party - Europe - World - The Independent
Their economy is hamstrung by absurd labor rules, an enormous government (53% of GDP is government spending), byzantine rules for businesses and the all the crap that leftist scumbags usually propose. There have been no "right wing" governments the way Americans understand the term. They have all been social democrat in nature, feeding unions and promoting more transfer payments.
Syriza now proposes to double down on stupid. This will not end well.
You are an idiot and an arrogant prick at that.

You still don't know the economic history of Greece or how it got there, fake Rabbi. I do.


So, a little history lesson for you, you stupid fuck.

In 1991, under a Conservative government, Greece failed to meet the convergence requirements of Maastricht because it had a 19.8% inflation rate, debt was 11.5% of GDP and the economy was shrinking.

Under a SOCIALIST government from 1993-2004 (Papandreou and Simitis), Greece brought it's inflation down to the 4% requirement by Maastricht. The SOCIALIST government of Greece also brought the debt down from 11.5% of GDP in 1993 to 3% as of 2000. These two changed allowed Greece to join the EuroZone. Also, the GDP of Greece rose during this time, the unemployment rate went down, and the rich had to pay some taxes. And the economy of Greece was growing by 4% as of August, 1999, under a SOCIALIST government.

Then, in 2004, with the election of a Conservative government (Karamanlis), the whole thing went to hell, and similarly to Bush 43, the seeds for a massive recession were already planted. Unemployment soared under Karamanlis and his goverment redid the tax code that essentially allowed all wealthy Greeks to pay ZERO in taxes. By 2006, under Karamanlis, a CONSERVATIVE, debt was 103% of GDP. Remember, in 2000, it was 3% (under a SOCIALIST government).

Papandreous' son, Georg Papandreou, a Liberal, was elected in 2009, but the damage was already long done to a small country that never completely recovered from the last 3 or 4 recessions.

It' the Greek CONSERVATIVES who robbed the store and fucked the country, thank you.

You are a bitter old failing son of a bitch with no sense of decency, no moral and no manners.
Off is the direction in which you can fuck.

Instead of trying to blame "Conservatives" why dont you look at how their economy functions, you idiot butt fucker? Look at the growth fo the governmetn sector, the strangulation of the private economy, etc.
You are a partisan shit head lacking even the most basic sense.
Go eat shit.

So, when you get hammered with real historical fact, you call someone a butt fucker. Love it.
Your ignorance and bile is something for the history books.

Your grasp of real history pales even to your grasp of math.

You've only hammered yourself.

 

[The Rabbi]

Under a SOCIALIST government from 1993-2004 (Papandreou and Simitis), Greece brought it's inflation down to the 4% requirement by Maastricht. The SOCIALIST government of Greece also brought the debt down from 11.5% of GDP in 1993 to 3% as of 2000. These two changed allowed Greece to join the EuroZone. Also, the GDP of Greece rose during this time, the unemployment rate went down, and the rich had to pay some taxes. And the economy of Greece was growing by 4% as of August, 1999, under a SOCIALIST government.

.

How the fuck did you think the debt accumulated? The Greek drachma was tied to the Euro in 2000, and yet you give the socialist credit for inflation and GDP, "SOCIALIST government of Greece also brought the debt down from 11.5% of GDP in 1993 to 3% as of 2000"

You're such a disingenuous prick.

He's a dishonest partisan asshole. And he's on Ignore.

 

[Meathead]

So, when you get hammered with real historical fact, you call someone a butt fucker. Love it.
Your ignorance and bile is something for the history books.

"Real historical fact"?!

WTF is that? I don't know what it's called, but it's something along the lines of "I don't know nothing about birthing no babies".

You have the mind of a 12 year-old black girl, which was apparent from your mathematical skills anyway.

I know I'm on ignore, but slagging you off is fun anyway. Everyone else can see it.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Under a SOCIALIST government from 1993-2004 (Papandreou and Simitis), Greece brought it's inflation down to the 4% requirement by Maastricht. The SOCIALIST government of Greece also brought the debt down from 11.5% of GDP in 1993 to 3% as of 2000. These two changed allowed Greece to join the EuroZone. Also, the GDP of Greece rose during this time, the unemployment rate went down, and the rich had to pay some taxes. And the economy of Greece was growing by 4% as of August, 1999, under a SOCIALIST government.

.

How the fuck did you think the debt accumulated? The Greek drachma was tied to the Euro in 2000, and yet you give the socialist credit for inflation and GDP, "SOCIALIST government of Greece also brought the debt down from 11.5% of GDP in 1993 to 3% as of 2000"

You're such a disingenuous prick.

He's a dishonest partisan asshole. And he's on Ignore.

Yeah, right, fake Rabbi. Facts that destroy your partisan hackmanship = the light. You are the moth.

 

[Meathead]

Under a SOCIALIST government from 1993-2004 (Papandreou and Simitis), Greece brought it's inflation down to the 4% requirement by Maastricht. The SOCIALIST government of Greece also brought the debt down from 11.5% of GDP in 1993 to 3% as of 2000. These two changed allowed Greece to join the EuroZone. Also, the GDP of Greece rose during this time, the unemployment rate went down, and the rich had to pay some taxes. And the economy of Greece was growing by 4% as of August, 1999, under a SOCIALIST government.

.

How the fuck did you think the debt accumulated? The Greek drachma was tied to the Euro in 2000, and yet you give the socialist credit for inflation and GDP, "SOCIALIST government of Greece also brought the debt down from 11.5% of GDP in 1993 to 3% as of 2000"

You're such a disingenuous prick.

He's a dishonest partisan asshole. And he's on Ignore.

Yeah, right, fake Rabbi. Facts that destroy your partisan hackmanship = the light. You are the moth.

Why the hell do you think the socialist PASOK collapsed along with the Greek economy and replaced with New Democracy? PASOK went from 44% in 2009 to 13% in 2012. It was doubtless the success of socialism.