The electoral college is broken

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    Why do we still go by the electoral vote? Some people say it's because if it's not broke, don't fix it. Well I'm telling you that it is broken.

    Al Gore lost because he didn't get the electoral vote. If we went by the popular vote, he would've won and our country would be in a much better shape.

    Thanks to George Bush, we're in a bad recession and in a war as well. We'd be in neither if we didn't have the electoral college.

    Barack Obama is now the only hope we have of getting us out of this mess that Bush has gotten us into. That's why I voted for Obama. The electoral college should be dismantled.
     
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    The constitutional theory behind the indirect election of both the President and Vice President of the United States is that while the Congress is popularly elected by the people,[15] the President and Vice President are elected to be executives of a federation of independent states.

    You do realize you don't actually vote for president when you vote but electors right? One reason why you don't have Presidents elected by a popular vote, is because, you will never again have a President elected by any state other than the large population centers, New York and California. Presidential campaigns will boil down to local elections in large urban centers, like LA, NY, Chicago, Atlanta. The apportioned representation the larger states have is in the House. So to do away with the electorial college would be an extremely bad idea. One more thing to consider, Al Gore is not the only person ever win the popular vote and lose the election . You have to take into consideration again that no matter how disappointing that was, it is not how we elect Presidents here.

    Electoral College (United States) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    Your assumption that we would be in much better shape under Gore is exactly that, an assumption. It might be that we would be much worse off than we are now. There really is no way to predict that. Based on the fact that the Dems fully supported no regulation in the mortgage industry, I'm not certain Gore would have done us any favors.

    As for the electoral college, the reason for it's use is to prevent one state from having too much influence in the election of our President. If, in any given election, 49 states narrowly vote for Candidate A, but the state of California votes overwhelmingly for Candidate B, Candidate B might become President even though 49 of the 50 states voted in favor of Candidate A. The electoral college is set up to prevent a regional candidate from winning office based solely on his/her strength in a certain region.
     
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    So because the guy you liked didn't win the system is broke? The system isn't broke. More likely you are simply a hypcocrit as it appears you would not be complaining about it if Gore were president.
     
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    There is a damn good reason why the Presidential election is not on popular vote.... that is simply because with the 3 branches, we have and need 3 different ways of appointment/election to help ensure more balance of power...

    We already have our legislative branch which is the branch elected by popular vote... the Judiciary is appointed and confirmed/approved by the legislative and executive branch... and the executive/Prez is selected thru the electoral college to ensure that each state gets to voice their opinion/choice in the election. Otherwise the smaller states wills/wishes would be drowned out by the urban/city populace....
     
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    blah blah blah every election this shit about the electoral college begins..then after the election everyone shuts up again
     
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    if al had carried his home state he would have won.

    his home state.

    now grow a pair and move along.
     
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    Yeah, we need the population centers of California and New York to dictate our new President every four or eight years.

    Wake the fuck up.
     
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    that's because there are simpletons who don't understand its intent....
     
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    Are founding father's pretty much feared democracy!
     

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