The effect of wolves on rivers

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Thanks Luddley for posting this and thanks Stat for the mention. I found this very interesting. It just shows what I already knew. That wolves have a positive impact on the environment and when you give nature back her balance, it will provide a huge benefit. Please feel free to mention me on any wolf info. you find. Anyone can feel free to do so and I will respond. Thanks again.
 
Thanks Luddley for posting this and thanks Stat for the mention. I found this very interesting. It just shows what I already knew. That wolves have a positive impact on the environment and when you give nature back her balance, it will provide a huge benefit. Please feel free to mention me on any wolf info. you find. Anyone can feel free to do so and I will respond. Thanks again.

Yes, its a powerful statement. I knew you'd like it and I'm sorry for not @-ing you.
 
US Adopts Recovery Plan for Mexican Grey Wolves...

US Adopts Recovery Plan for Mexican Grey Wolves
November 29, 2017 — After decades of legal challenges and political battles that have pitted states against the federal government, U.S. wildlife managers on Wednesday finally adopted a plan to guide the recovery of a wolf that once roamed parts of the American Southwest and northern Mexico.
The plan sets a goal of having an average of 320 Mexican gray wolves in the wild over an eight-year period before the predator can shed its status as an endangered species. In each of the last three years, the population would have to exceed the average to ensure the species doesn't backslide. Officials estimate recovery could take another two decades and cost nearly $180 million. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service considered tens of thousands of public comments - from state lawmakers and business groups to independent scientists and environmentalists - as it worked to meet a court-ordered deadline to craft the recovery plan. It was a long time coming as the original guidance for restoring the wolf was adopted in 1982. “This plan really provides us a roadmap for where we need to go to get this species recovered and delisted and get its management turned back over to the states and tribes,” Sherry Barrett, the Mexican wolf recovery coordinator, told The Associated Press in an interview.

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A Mexican gray wolf leaves cover at the Sevilleta National Wildlife Refuge, Socorro County, New Mexico.​

Barrett said state wildlife officials reviewed the scientific data and the models used to calculate the best way forward for the agency as it works to bolster genetic diversity and continue building the wild population. There are now more of the wolves roaming the Southwest than at any time since the federal government began trying to reintroduce the animals in 1998. The most recent annual survey shows at least 113 wolves spread between southwestern New Mexico and southeast Arizona. There are about 31 wolves in the wild in Mexico, officials said. Under the recovery plan, those numbers would be expected to grow to 145 in the U.S. and 100 in Mexico over the next five years. Barrett said targeted releases of captive-bred wolves and translocations are necessary to make the program work.


In an effort to avoid future skirmishes with states, the plan calls for coordination with wildlife officials in New Mexico and Arizona when it comes to the timing, location and circumstances of the releases. Environmentalists are voicing concerns, suggesting there needs to be more than 700 wolves in the wild if the population is to withstand illegal shootings, genetic issues and other challenges. They have pushed for years for more captive wolves to be released, but ranchers and elected leaders in rural communities have pressed back because the predators sometimes attack domestic livestock and wild game.

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People hold signs in support of the Mexican gray wolf during a meeting of the New Mexico Game Commission in Albuquerque, New Mexico​

Last year, the U.S. Interior Department's internal watchdog said the Fish and Wildlife Service had not fulfilled its obligation to remove Mexican gray wolves that preyed on pets and cattle. Barrett said with the new plan and other rules that give the agency flexibility in managing problem wolves, there is optimism among officials that progress can be made. “I know that with most things having to do with wolves, there's going to be a lot of strong opinions on both sides,” she said. “But to us, it is a big step forward for us to have something in place to start working toward and working with the public to achieve.”

US Adopts Recovery Plan for Mexican Grey Wolves
 
Turns out the wolves don't really change rivers. That was bad science, "Romance biology".

How Wolves Don’t Change Rivers | Earth Rising - An Alternative Environmental Commentary
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"Willows and aspen have grown taller at a few locations but there has not been any far reaching trophic cascade. The Lamar River and other streams have not recovered—in fact, the Lamar River in the Lamar Valley is worse than ever.”

You’ll still see plenty of buffalo roaming in the Lamar Valley. That’s because wolves have not changed the habits of the number one species that’s wreaking havoc on the valley’s meadows and riparian areas—the American bison. “The Lamar valley is worse than cattle feedlot. There are 3,500 bison in the Lamar pounding things into oblivion,” said Dr. Kay. He also mentioned humorously that the bison are now wrecking some of the aspens and willows too.
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The most interesting point there was about the Eurocentric belief that Yellowstone was pristine wilderness, untouched by man, before Europeans arrived. It wasn't. For thousands of years prior to the European arrival, humans were the apex predator in Yellowstone, especially of bison, and stopping the human apex predators from hunting in Yellowstone is what really changed things.
 

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