The difference between California and Kansas proves liberal economics work

[charwin95]

California has moved up to the 6th largest economy among NATIONS around the world?

Do tell, how does that square with all the derps who thinks California isn't doing well. CA survived and has had a long clime out of The Bush Great Recession, like many states have, but it has come back in golden style and is running billions of dollars of surpluses now.

Kansas? Well if you have some spare change in the couch Kansas can use it.

California also has the highest poverty rate in the nation. Where 4 in 10 Californians live in or at the poverty level.

Yep they are peachy.

Really? I mean REALLY? From richest to poorest states in America...... Maryland being the #1 richest......... California is #9. California is NOT the highest rate of poverty in this nation. Why do you lie?

These Are America’s Richest & Poorest States « All About America


12. Colorado – Median household income: $61,303 Poverty rate: 12.0%
11. Washington – Median household income: $61,366 Poverty rate: 13.2%
10. Minnesota – Median household income: $61,481 Poverty rate: 11.5%
9. California – Median household income: $61,933 Poverty rate: 16.4%
8. Virginia – Median household income: $64,902 Poverty rate: 11.8%
7. New Hampshire – Median household income: $66,532 Poverty rate: 9.2%
6. Massachusetts – Median household income: $69,160 Poverty rate: 11.6%
5. Hawaii – Median household income: $69,592 Poverty rate: 11.4%
4. Connecticut – Median household income: $70,048 Poverty rate: 10.8%
3. Alaska – Median household income: $71,583 Poverty rate: 11.2%
2. New Jersey – Median household income: $71,919 Poverty rate: 11.1%
1. Maryland- Median household income: $73,971 Poverty rate: 10.1%

 

[charwin95]

Utah is the state with the best economy in the Nation. Run by a Republican

Take notes Democrats.

Arizona is run by Republicans but one of the top 5 highest poverty in the nation.
Just wondering if you noticed it.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Libs are so cute when they try to compare a population of 39 million to 3 million. And then tell you you can't compare a population of 39 million to 3 million.

Yeah and with that 3 million the state managed a recession and a deficit. That's your typical republican shithole I guess.

You live there ?

Didn't think so.

Johnson County Kansas, about 1/4th population of the state is annually rated one of the best non-urban places in the country to live.

I'll bet it beats whatever dump you were raised in.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Education used to be about about 25% of Kansas budget.

Now, it is about 70%.

 

[Synthaholic]

left wing fascists

Once again, you do the work of exposing yourself as an idiot without any help from me.

If only you were capable of learning...


Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism[1][2] that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe, influenced by national syndicalism. Fascism originated in Italy during World War I and spread to other European countries. Fascism opposes liberalism, Marxism and anarchism and is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.[3][4]

 

[Synthaholic]

What was the definition of insanity again...trying the same thing that doesn't work over and over and expecting a different result.

No, that's the definition of conservatism.

 

[Synthaholic]

It wasn't just the wars, he went on a domestic spending orgy too.

Which "conservatives" were silent over.

That was the problem. Funny how you only bring up the parts you don't like.

False, once again. I spoke out over the massive increase in Defense spending, and the creation of the TSA, among other things. I argued at the time that if any money was going to be spend on security, it should be to better protect vulnerable nuclear and toxic facilities and power plants, etc.

And you're a liar there too. What does Syndi want to call someone who voted for the wars? Madam President ...

Amazing how you can lie while calling someone else a liar.

The fact is she didn't vote for a war, she voted to give Bush a badge & a gun. Going to war was his decision: he was the decider, remember?

Now lie again. It's always amusing to watch your credibility plummet.

Partially true. Conservatives were not "silent" about W's spending orgy, they blasted him for it including Hannity and Rush repeatedly. But they said it was a price they had to pay for defense from terrorism. Rewriting history doesn't help you. You know what would help you? A restraining order against Ryan. I heard even as Speaker of the House he had your house condemned and you had to move into a homeless shelter, why you were silent on the site for the last month or so. You two really need to shake hands and get over it.

As for you "spoke out," again, you give a list motivated by your hand down your pants, all leftist talking points. What you can't escape is that what you want to call a Democrat who voted for W's litany of miitary abuses is ... Madam President ... You can't Syndi your way out of that one, you do ...

You've got nothing!

I kick your ass on this board more often than I do PoliticalChic, and that's every single time.

All you have are childish insults about me and Paul Ryan - my avatar must really piss you off. Good!

And since when are Rush and Hannity conservatives?

 

[Synthaholic]

Education used to be about about 25% of Kansas budget.

Now, it is about 70%.

That's because they have no more money for anything else.

 

[yiostheoy]

Utah is the state with the best economy in the Nation. Run by a Republican

Take notes Democrats.

Utah is #14 not #1.

Maryland is #1

Alaska #2

California #3

Kansas is #26 to get back on point.

See list attached.

List of U.S. states by income - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[yiostheoy]

California's biggest industry is Aerospace. Which is bigger than the movie industry and agriculture combined. Next would be Computer Technology.

So...if California is so well off. Why are people living in poverty at all? Where are the jobs?

Aerospace is #3.

You must have missed all the layoffs and plant closings.

#1 is electronics.

#2 is agribusiness.

#4 is state government.

#5 is movies.

I would have given you a citation but since you did not give us a citation you can google it on your own.

 

[BlueGin]

California's biggest industry is Aerospace. Which is bigger than the movie industry and agriculture combined. Next would be Computer Technology.

So...if California is so well off. Why are people living in poverty at all? Where are the jobs?

Aerospace is #3.

You must have missed all the layoffs and plant closings.

#1 is electronics.

#2 is agribusiness.

#4 is state government.

#5 is movies.

I would have given you a citation but since you did not give us a citation you can google it on your own.

There are many references to this. Here is just one

Report: California’s aerospace industry bigger than Hollywood

 

[BlueGin]

Utah is the state with the best economy in the Nation. Run by a Republican

Take notes Democrats.

Utah is #14 not #1.

Maryland is #1

Alaska #2

California #3

Kansas is #26 to get back on point.

See list attached.

List of U.S. states by income - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

See rankings list. Utah # 1 for 2016.


2016’s States with the Best & Worst Economies

 

[AntonToo]

See rankings list. Utah # 1 for 2016.


2016’s States with the Best & Worst Economies

Well when you don't consider the actual size and significance of the state's economy, it is impressive. But we should and Utah is a tiny speck in US economy.

 

[BlueGin]

See rankings list. Utah # 1 for 2016.


2016’s States with the Best & Worst Economies

Well when you don't consider the actual size and significance of the state's economy, it is impressive. But we should and Utah is a tiny speck in US economy.

Ah.... Moving the bar because it shoots your narrative out of the water.

Figures

 

[AntonToo]

See rankings list. Utah # 1 for 2016.


2016’s States with the Best & Worst Economies

Well when you don't consider the actual size and significance of the state's economy, it is impressive. But we should and Utah is a tiny speck in US economy.

Ah.... Moving the bar because it shoots your narrative out of the water.

Figures

What is unreasonable about what I said?

 

[kaz]

It wasn't just the wars, he went on a domestic spending orgy too.

Which "conservatives" were silent over.

That was the problem. Funny how you only bring up the parts you don't like.

False, once again. I spoke out over the massive increase in Defense spending, and the creation of the TSA, among other things. I argued at the time that if any money was going to be spend on security, it should be to better protect vulnerable nuclear and toxic facilities and power plants, etc.

And you're a liar there too. What does Syndi want to call someone who voted for the wars? Madam President ...

Amazing how you can lie while calling someone else a liar.

The fact is she didn't vote for a war, she voted to give Bush a badge & a gun. Going to war was his decision: he was the decider, remember?

Now lie again. It's always amusing to watch your credibility plummet.

Partially true. Conservatives were not "silent" about W's spending orgy, they blasted him for it including Hannity and Rush repeatedly. But they said it was a price they had to pay for defense from terrorism. Rewriting history doesn't help you. You know what would help you? A restraining order against Ryan. I heard even as Speaker of the House he had your house condemned and you had to move into a homeless shelter, why you were silent on the site for the last month or so. You two really need to shake hands and get over it.

As for you "spoke out," again, you give a list motivated by your hand down your pants, all leftist talking points. What you can't escape is that what you want to call a Democrat who voted for W's litany of miitary abuses is ... Madam President ... You can't Syndi your way out of that one, you do ...

You've got nothing!

I kick your ass on this board more often than I do PoliticalChic, and that's every single time.

All you have are childish insults about me and Paul Ryan - my avatar must really piss you off. Good!

And since when are Rush and Hannity conservatives?

Your avatar cracks me up. I'd never have an avatar of my enemy, I define myself as what I am, you define yourself by your enemy. Straight up, Holmes, I pity you. Not enough to stop making fun of you though. Speaking of not pitying you enough to stop making fun of you, remember when Paul Ryan put the whoopie cushion on your chair in first period and people kept making farting noises all day when you walked by? That was a hoot. No mater you hate him so much. Then he did it again in the last period. That was ruthless after the day you'd had.

As for that you "kick" my ass every day, you know how you know you're losing? When you have to inform people you kick their ass since no one would know any other way than your informing them. You do use "yes it is" and "no it isn't" effectively though. I don't believe you've ever used the wrong one in place of the other. You have those down. Great debater you are ...

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Education used to be about about 25% of Kansas budget.

Now, it is about 70%.

That's because they have no more money for anything else.

This was long before their present condition.

They also have counties that do very very well with their own taxes. Johnson County Kansas is a very very nice place to live.

 

[Contumacious]

left wing fascists

Once again, you do the work of exposing yourself as an idiot without any help from me.

If only you were capable of learning...


Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism[1][2] that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe, influenced by national syndicalism. Fascism originated in Italy during World War I and spread to other European countries. Fascism opposes liberalism, Marxism and anarchism and is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.[3][4]

Once again, you do the work of exposing yourself as an idiot without any help from me.

The Fascist Threat

In 1933 and 1934, the American left had to make a choice. Would they embrace the corporatism and regimentation of the New Deal or take a principled stand on their old liberal values? In other words, would they accept fascism as a halfway house to their socialist utopia? A gigantic battle ensued in this period, and there was a clear winner. The New Deal made an offer the left could not refuse. And it was a small step to go from the embrace of the fascistic planned economy to the celebration of the warfare State that concluded the New Deal period."


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[JBond]

Oh gee another failed far left drone thread from a far left drone!

But Revenue Secretary Nick Jordan said in a statement Wednesday that the state economy continues to suffer because of slumps in agriculture, aircraft manufacturing and energy production hurting the entire region.

Read more here: Kansas faces $74.5 million budget shortfall amid school funding fight

So far left policies have hurt another state..

Are you kidding me? Do you know what party runs Kansas. That's my entire point.

WTF are you babbling about? California is hopelessly in debt.

Bullshit. $11B surplus.

Many folks are confused by the term unfunded liabilities. Look at my link and think. Neither California nor Kansas show up in the top ten until you reach the list of liability per resident. California is 10th worst. Per capita Kansas owes about $7000 less than California.

Promises Made, Promises Broken 2014: Unfunded Liabilities Hit $4.7 Trillion

Looks at the numbers regarding unfunded liabilities. California is in trouble.

Promises Made, Promises Broken 2014: Unfunded Liabilities Hit $4.7 Trillion

 

[AntonToo]

Looks at the numbers regarding unfunded liabilities. California is in trouble.

Promises Made, Promises Broken 2014: Unfunded Liabilities Hit $4.7 Trillion

Yea but at least by one measure (which your source says is more meaningful then nominal dollars) Kansa is in worse shape:

This does not mean much, however, as the largest states with the largest government employee workforce will likely always lead the list, even if unfunded liabilities were not at their current crisis levels. The funded ratio, however, is a better indicator of the health of the pension plans.

Read more: Promises Made, Promises Broken 2014: Unfunded Liabilities Hit $4.7 Trillion

On that list Kansas sit way higher at #6 with only 28% funded, compared to #37, 39% funded Cali.