2aguy, I can't believe you risked violating USMB rules by calling me a moron in a CDZ thread you started. But I am even more shocked by your naivete; or should I say your alt reality? While you may think the groups you mentioned are hate groups, your personal opinion doesn't count. Honestly, though, I never knew how race and gender centered you were until now. RW white males, to you, can do no wrong. From your perspective, every non- white group that forms to protect their Constitutional rights is a hate group. Yet, you denied the existence of known white hate groups ensconced presently in the GOP. I'll admit, that frame of mind is hard to deal with. If there are millions more like you, then God help us all. There may even be another civil war based on your illusions about something that doesn't exist.